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Kingdom Come: Deliverance II - Henry's coming to see us on February 4th

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I thought you started the argument with every single Czech having German ancestry, yet now you say it's only one third of them, as though that proves your earlier point instead of completely refuting it. Are you sure you don't have jewish ancestry?
Haplogroups are used to study what populations mixed in a certain populace in the past. They are only useful on a population level.

Let's say a Swede man had kids with a Somalian women in Somalia. His half-Swedish sons will go on to breed with other Somalian women, and the % of Swedish genes in theese individuals will diminish, yet his European haplogroup will stay in the paternal line of his now wholly black descendants. The haplogroup will remain there as a rare oddity. This one-off event will barely be visible statistics-wise. This is the reason why 10% of haplogroups among Czechs is divided between 10+ typically African, Asian, and Middle-eastern haplogroups - they are insignificant.

If Swedish men bred with Somlian women en masse, it would have a long lasting genetic impact that would visible not least in Swedish haplogroups being present in Somalia in the double digits and for centuries and even millenia to come.

In simplified terms, the 33% prevalence of Germanic haplogroups in Bohemia means that a third of genes in Czechs is of a Germanic origin, not that only 33% of Czechs have Germanic ancestry.

There is no such a thing as a Czech that is genetically more or less the same as the first Slavic tribes that arrived in Bohemia 1000+ years ago. The two main groups that mixed in Bohemia were Germans and Czechs, with Poles, Slovaks, and Hungarians thrown in. Almost every European region is like this, unless isolated by sea or mountains from the rest of the world.

People are coaxed into simplistic modern nationalistic thinking that distorts the truth of who they and their ancestors actually are. Many Czechs in the wake of the National Revival developed fantasies about the great Slavic brothers in Russia and the glorious Soviet Union, when they obviously had much less in common with them in regard to ancestry and culture than with the Germans - and they found out, but it was too late at that point.

Likewise, there were Germans who developed retarded fantasies about the unilateral superiority and distinctness of anyone "Germanic".

Despite what the post-war propaganda has been spouting for almost a century, it was the the nazi elite who understood that what truly matters is your ancestry, and not being Slav or German. The prized nazi racial theoretician Hans Günther wrote:
Physical and mental differences, however, are very great, not only within Europe (often called the home of the 'white' or 'Caucasian' race) and within each of the countries in it, but even within some small district in one of the latter. There is, therefore, no 'German race,' or 'Russian race,' or 'Spanish race.' The terms 'nation' and 'race' must be kept apart.

People may be heard speaking of a 'Germanic,' a 'Latin,' and a 'Slav' race; but it is at once seen that in those lands where Germanic, Romance, or Slav tongues are spoken there is the same bewildering variety in the outward appearance of their peoples, and never any such uniformity as suggests a race.

We see, therefore, that the human groups in question – the 'Germans,' the 'Latins,' and the 'Slavs' – form a linguistical, not a racial combination.
The germanisation of Czechs was deemed necessary for political reasons. Czechs were deluded into pan-Slavic fantasies tied to communist and democratic ideals. Nationalism places the language with culture above racial and eugenic interests.

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cvv

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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is.

There is no such a thing as a Czech that is genetically more or less the same as the first Slavic tribes that arrived in Bohemia 1000+ years ago. The two main groups that mixed in Bohemia were Germans and Czechs
Aakshually there was a study a few years ago here in Czechia that made quite a wave. Apparently us and the Austrians are one of the closest genetically related nations in Europe and 50+ percent of our genetic material doesn't come from Germans or Slavs but people that lived in this area before, probably Celts.

Afaik study hasn't been confirmed yet but if true, it shows despite all the wars and migrations the local populace, genetically speaking, has been living here for thousands of years.
 
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There is no such a thing as a Czech that is genetically more or less the same as the first Slavic tribes that arrived in Bohemia 1000+ years ago. The two main groups that mixed in Bohemia were Germans and Czechs
Aakshually there was a study a few years ago here in Czechia that made quite a wave. Apparently us and the Austrians are one of the closest genetically related nations in Europe and 50+ percent of our genetic material doesn't come from Germans or Slavs but people that lived in this area before, probably Celts.

Afaik study hasn't been confirmed yet but if true, it shows despite all the wars and migrations the local populace, genetically speaking, has been living here for thousands of years.
I think they say that mainly because of cystic fibrosis, a typical Celtic disease, here and in Austria.

As much as I would like to larp as a Celt, I don't think there's much to it.
 

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I thought you started the argument with every single Czech having German ancestry, yet now you say it's only one third of them, as though that proves your earlier point instead of completely refuting it. Are you sure you don't have jewish ancestry?
Haplogroups are used to study what populations mixed in a certain populace in the past. They are only useful on a population level.

Let's say a Swede man had kids with a Somalian women in Somalia. His half-Swedish sons will go on to breed with other Somalian women, and the % of Swedish genes in theese individuals will diminish, yet his European haplogroup will stay in the paternal line of his now wholly black descendants. The haplogroup will remain there as a rare oddity. This one-off event will barely be visible statistics-wise. This is the reason why 10% of haplogroups among Czechs is divided between 10+ typically African, Asian, and Middle-eastern haplogroups - they are insignificant.

If Swedish men bred with Somlian women en masse, it would have a long lasting genetic impact that would visible not least in Swedish haplogroups being present in Somalia in the double digits and for centuries and even millenia to come.

In simplified terms, the 33% prevalence of Germanic haplogroups in Bohemia means that a third of genes in Czechs is of a Germanic origin, not that only 33% of Czechs have Germanic ancestry.

There is no such a thing as a Czech that is genetically more or less the same as the first Slavic tribes that arrived in Bohemia 1000+ years ago. The two main groups that mixed in Bohemia were Germans and Czechs, with Poles, Slovaks, and Hungarians thrown in. Almost every European region is like this, unless isolated by sea or mountains from the rest of the world.

People are coaxed into simplistic modern nationalistic thinking that distorts the truth of who they and their ancestors actually are. Many Czechs in the wake of the National Revival developed fantasies about the great Slavic brothers in Russia and the glorious Soviet Union, when they obviously had much less in common with them in regard to ancestry and culture than with the Germans - and they found out, but it was too late at that point.

Likewise, there were Germans who developed retarded fantasies about the unilateral superiority and distinctness of anyone "Germanic".

Despite what the post-war propaganda has been spouting for almost a century, it was the the nazi elite who understood that what truly matters is your ancestry, and not being Slav or German. The prized nazi racial theoretician Hans Günther wrote:
Physical and mental differences, however, are very great, not only within Europe (often called the home of the 'white' or 'Caucasian' race) and within each of the countries in it, but even within some small district in one of the latter. There is, therefore, no 'German race,' or 'Russian race,' or 'Spanish race.' The terms 'nation' and 'race' must be kept apart.

People may be heard speaking of a 'Germanic,' a 'Latin,' and a 'Slav' race; but it is at once seen that in those lands where Germanic, Romance, or Slav tongues are spoken there is the same bewildering variety in the outward appearance of their peoples, and never any such uniformity as suggests a race.

We see, therefore, that the human groups in question – the 'Germans,' the 'Latins,' and the 'Slavs' – form a linguistical, not a racial combination.
The germanisation of Czechs was deemed necessary for political reasons. Czechs were deluded into pan-Slavic fantasies tied to communist and democratic ideals. Nationalism places the language with culture above racial and eugenic interests.

UG9zc5u.png

"USSR, your brothers?"
Discussion with you is most perplexing, as you seem to constantly disagree with me, only to then build up an argument that confirms my original thesis. First of all, what you say still doesn't prove that EVERY Czech has German ancestry, only that there had been significant interbreeding with Germans in history (which we knew already), second of all, you pretty much spell out what I've said in my very first post – that it's not really important. Because as you say, virtually every European will find a wide array of nationalities somewhere in his family tree. But if we use your example with Swedes mass-breeding with Somalians, would their spawn be Swedes? Obviously not, they'd be halfbreeds, and their children again Somalis (assuming they went on to marry other Somalis). Three or four generations later, it'd be utterly and thoroughly irrelevant that they had a Swedish great-grandfather.

You then go on a tangent about nazi Germany and pan-Slavism, neither of which is relevant to anything being discussed, and is even factually wrong. The "Germanization" of Czechs as envisioned by Nazi Germany was re-educating those deemed to be sufficiently Germanic, and deporting the rest to Siberia once USSR was defeated. It wasn't envisioned as just declaring Czechs to be German, but rather convicing Czechs with Germanic roots that they never have been Czechs in the first place, and chasing out the rest. German authorities, similarly, never treated Czechs as their equals.

Finally, I'm growing pretty damn tired of writing walls of text just for you to ignore 90% of them.
 

Elttharion

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Urgent and official:Kingdom Come Deliverance Il banned in Saudi Arabia, due to unskippable gay scenes in story mode

Apparently it's a one minute unskippable sex scene between two men



There is a sex scene between two people, and you cannot edit or delete it, and the clip is long, exceeding a minute.It seems that the developer is not looking to provide a version dedicated to the Middle East yet.
 

NecroLord

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Urgent and official:Kingdom Come Deliverance Il banned in Saudi Arabia, due to unskippable gay scenes in story mode

Apparently it's a one minute unskippable sex scene between two men



There is a sex scene between two people, and you cannot edit or delete it, and the clip is long, exceeding a minute.It seems that the developer is not looking to provide a version dedicated to the Middle East yet.

What.
The.
Fuck.
Nigga.
 

Elttharion

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Urgent and official:Kingdom Come Deliverance Il banned in Saudi Arabia, due to unskippable gay scenes in story mode

Apparently it's a one minute unskippable sex scene between two men



There is a sex scene between two people, and you cannot edit or delete it, and the clip is long, exceeding a minute.It seems that the developer is not looking to provide a version dedicated to the Middle East yet.

According to what was mentioned through the Saudi Gamer account on platform X, the game has been banned in Saudi Arabia due to containing an unethical scene that promotes agendas embedded in video games.


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Mark.L.Joy

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Wasn't Vavra's whole shtick respect for history and what not? If that's the image he wants to make I'll just assume Bohemia was poofter paradise then thanks for the lesson.
 

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