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There's a nigger and gay sex in Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2!

jungl

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They should have henrys actor and hans hold hands in a "friendships and romance" trailer right before release for maximum culture war brain aneurisms. Make sure to add females in the trailer but leave it vague just enough so a vein pops in shizos brains. Also show the black guy receiving racist abuse and henry joining in on it as the intro highlight of the trailer so the leftist crowd lights torches and goes insane too.

This should be enough to cause a civil war to erupt.
 

Harthwain

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Maybe. Depends on how much weight you give to, "the character some dude wrote is how i have to play/be" I guess. If we're talking a completely linear FPS campaign or similar, I'm with you. In an open world RPG where you don't necessarily (I assume) have to have certain responses, I don't. Essentially, unless you're roped into a mandatory swallow my sword QTE or some such, this is silly. "Someone could choose a certain path and I don't like it, so now I'm going to have a tantrum" sort of childishness imo.
You're missing the point.
 

Iucounu

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I don't fully understand the reasons why they always choose Africans.
In the US, I believe it's part of the divisive politics that began with the Obama administration. The idea is to make different groups fight each other, so they won't notice how they're all ripped off by oligarchy and deep state. Gays and black Americans are the perfect victims, straight male whites the perfect scapegoats. And of course black racists, white racists and the guilt-ridden white middle class women all fall for it, resulting in the freak show we have seen the last 15 years.

No I don't entirely understand it but I can offer some reasons from an English perspective. Africa worship I guess is the ultimate way for one class to spite the classes below it. Its a mechanism. We will feed the Africans with a pop concert, and make sure the lower classes are kept in place.

There are a fair few middle class elite types who moved so far past the concerns of average people. Perhaps they view it as yearning for simplicity and at the same time one upmanship. The David Attenborough types. I see it as a corruption of the mind when you lose touch with reality.
I agree, in Europe it's more of a hamfisted way to make the white trash/working class accept wage-dumping mass migration (that hails more from the Middle East than Africa, I think?) and refugees in general from all the US wars. European middle class doesn't like their own white trash, they consider them scum and wants to avoid them just as much as the immigrants, if not more.

It's sad to see the naive working class racists desperately trying to rally the middle class for some kind of race war against the foreign invaders. It's not going to happen, the middle class only reacts when immigration-related problem start appearing in their own secluded neighborhoods, and even then action will only be taken to solve that particular middle class problem.
 

Cpt. Dallas

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I guess they just want to reach wider audience?
That's the rub. There is no wider audience. Catering to solid loyal core is always more reliable. Shitting on your fan's heads is never a good idea. Keeping to the faith would have locked in a fanbase for a generation. Instead,
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edit: irony of using a gay rapist .gif noted
 

Elttharion

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Like how Shepard can fuck Alenko and Vega in their respective asses? That must be canon male Shep.
Like how V can touch tips with Kerry Eurodyne, making anyone who plays male V a complete faggot?
Like...

It doesn't matter. See, the difference which should be obvious is that the agency is from the player. If you choose to have the character turn gay, it's more about you than anything.
Those are characters with a wider range of expression. Shepard can be of either gender, have multiple histories, and can either be an asshole or a goody goody. Likewise with V. Henry of Skalitz is Henry of Skalitz. He only has the one established background, his dialogue options are limited to things this specific character would be likely to say, he will perform actions and say things you don't agree with without your input, he has a very narrow range of expression. And now he's a bisexual; you're just given the choice to not act on his homosexual desires.
Its a little puzzling to see people defend this. I guess the frog is really and truly boiled. I am reading the same excuses for this that I read for Bioware, Bethesda and pretty much every other western developer in the last 15 years. Scratch that, every kind of western media in the last 20 years. Warhorse is just a little bit behind the curve but they are following the exact path we have seen dozen of times by now, pandering to an audience that always demands more. Imagine what kind of thing they will add on the third game if there ever is one.

Remember how Game of Thrones was lambasted for not having black characters? Then they started to race change people in the latter seasons and in House of the Dragon you literally have a race swapped negro screaming about wanting to marry the princess(?) to maintan the purity of the royal family bloodline (a bunch of white skinned and purple eyed people). Or the Witcher who was criticized for not having black characters in the games and the TV series was a total clownshow. Same thing with The Lord of the Rings to the Rings of Power. Mass Effect went from a semi based RPG to listening to your gay pilot trauma dumping about his dead husband. Ubisoft used to have a womanizer main character with Ezio but now every single one of them is gay or bissexual. Embracer itself has meddled and fucked up other franchises before (like Saints Row). Etc
 

Wasteland

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lmao @ Vavra. I thought things were bad before, but now ... I'm not even mad. This shit has gone way past shamelessness and straight into performance art.

"It is time to address WILD CLAIMS some people nazis spread that are apparently based on totally accurate leaks. To wit:
  • Musa is a black kang and renaissance man. He came to Europe on a pyramid shaped space ship, from which he practices futuristic Wakandan medicine. But don't worry; this will be handled in an extremely authentic way: the player gets to witness Musa's interactions with backward bigoted Europeans. Henry will have the choice (remember, it's your choice!) to either apologize for their racism, or to offer Musa a blowjob as recompense.
  • Henry is now gay, but don't worry! You don't have to watch him suck dicks. We will not literally staple your eyes open, Clockwork Orange style, for the duration of our extremely tasteful pixel buggery animations. (Eyelid staples are a planned DLC feature.)
  • Long-time fans can rest assured that none of this was planned specifically to appeal to a "modern audience." In fact, we're shooting for "zero audience," and as things stand now, I like our chances.
  • Some hateful people sadly attempted to critique my game without paying full price for it first. These people are obviously nazis.
  • Have I mentioned that I own a Bentley? I post pictures of my recklessly driving it in reply to random internet anons to prove how totally not-at-all-buttmad I am about receiving criticism, which, again, can only come from Nazis.
Hope this clears things up. Pre-order today!"

 

Elttharion

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Oh Thank God you are awake Henry, you fell from your horse and hit your head pretty hard

Wait what, a 'black person', what the fuck is that and what the fuck is a mali?

You dreamed someone had buggered you? Jesus Christ Henry, that must have been a horrible nightmare.

C'mon, there are some wenches bathing near here, we cant miss that. Cmere, I'll help you walk.
 

Alienman

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Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire Make the Codex Great Again! Grab the Codex by the pussy Codex Year of the Donut Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
Boy, I got to give Vavra some cred. This blunder has turned out to be a great Youtube / Twitter grifter test.

With the latest being Arch.

 

Elttharion

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Boy, I got to give Vavra some cred. This blunder has turned out to be a great Youtube / Twitter grifter test.

With the latest being Arch.


Daniel Vávra From KCD2 And Warhorse Finally Responds! And It's Good News
Grummz:
BREAKING LEAK: No, Kingdom Come Deliverance is NOT woke.
Etc

Guise its totally ok, this is the based gay sex from the based devs not the cringe gay sex from the cringe devs.
 

Alienman

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Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire Make the Codex Great Again! Grab the Codex by the pussy Codex Year of the Donut Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
Seen some others too, but can't recall their names. Some medium-popular supposedly anti-woke dudes. The only thing that was required was to confirm the leaks being true, lol. You would perhaps expect the opposite, going by their brand, but hey-ho.
 

Raghar

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Is this from the siege of Kutna hora in 1402? Oh dear. They are bit morons. IIRC in the worst variant of commies lived in Kutna hora. Even Bolsheviks were sane people in comparison. Miners.
There was also horde of Germans who leeched on country, and which were removed by nationalists when nationalists liberated the city.

Proper historic game would make German looks so bad that even Jews would pale in comparison. But if they wanted to bring main character into hive of depravity. They needed to go to Prague. In that age, Prague was the city that was a BIG ULCER ON FACE OF THE COUNTRY. The few honest people in Prague were people behind Želivsky, and those were fanatics.

They could have sodomy and worse REALLY REALLY WORSE, if they wanted to make game that oozes into the worst.
 

Valestein

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Boy, I got to give Vavra some cred. This blunder has turned out to be a great Youtube / Twitter grifter test.

With the latest being Arch.


Daniel Vávra From KCD2 And Warhorse Finally Responds! And It's Good News
Grummz:
BREAKING LEAK: No, Kingdom Come Deliverance is NOT woke.
Etc

Guise its totally ok, this is the based gay sex from the based devs not the cringe gay sex from the cringe devs.

Based gay sex and kang from Mali.
 

Raghar

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BTW all this talk about morons who are gloryfind blacks and foreigners reminded me about this song. IIRC it was parody song from before velvet revolution. They were singing about crap in Kladno.
Something about when you get robbed by person from Jamaica, commie police would find culprit and return you your money back in a jiffy. ("But in Prague there is 100x better, they have all that 100x more." That would be good joke... ...if it was joke.)
 

Larianshill

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I was re-reading KCD threads, and saw 2 things
1) Musa is not just a bit character, there will be multiple "situations" involving him, according to Vavra's tweet. He's clearly a significant figure in the plot.
2) We were promised something akin to Godwin's quest from the first game, the one filled with debauchery


Oh God. What if...
 

Elttharion

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Seen some others too, but can't recall their names. Some medium-popular supposedly anti-woke dudes. The only thing that was required was to confirm the leaks being true, lol. You would perhaps expect the opposite, going by their brand, but hey-ho.
If changing a character sexuality isnt woke then nothing is. Gotta hand it to Vavra tho, dude completely obliterated 'gamergate 2.0' and the grifters spawned from it. He also gave the wokies the single biggest victory they could ever have and probably killed any kind of anti woke movement that was gaining traction in the gaming community.
 

Tyranicon

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He also gave the wokies the single biggest victory they could ever have and probably killed any kind of anti woke movement that was gaining traction in the gaming community.
If a movement was centered entirely on (or can be taken down singlehandedly by) some dude wearing a based shirt and shitposting on twitter, then it never deserved to live anyways.
 

Jermu

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brilliant move to have only 2 gay characters in kcd2 and one of em being henry
:hero:

regarding malian medicine I searched this topic a little bit
Mali's traditional healers unlock herbal cures (Reuters)


"Culturally, we're born into traditional medicine rather than Western medicine. From being babies, our mothers take us to traditional healers to clean us and cure us with plants," Soumaoro told Reuters.
"The story of modern medicine is foreign to our culture."

Mali's government is one of few in Africa to formally recognize the benefits of traditional healers. Its scientists test the healers' methods and give them a seal of approval.
"This system is unique in Africa and is said by many to be a model for the rest of the developing countries that rely on traditional medicine,"

"I do not think (traditional African medicine) is taken seriously enough ... this type of treatment can be just as good as ours in many cases,"

African medicine was often feared by the Europeans who colonized the continent. Some believed traditional cures were part of dangerous black magic ceremonies and, although the system continued to thrive, it was largely driven underground.
Traditional medicine still finds plenty of skeptics in the Western medical profession but has been making a comeback since the era of independence in the 1960s.

Just as colonizers feared African methods, so too many Malians view Western medicine with suspicion, regarding it as overpriced and not tailored to curing local ailments which their ancestors have been treating for generations.

even modern medicine can't compete against the wisdom of Musa
 

GrainWetski

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Seen some others too, but can't recall their names. Some medium-popular supposedly anti-woke dudes. The only thing that was required was to confirm the leaks being true, lol. You would perhaps expect the opposite, going by their brand, but hey-ho.
Grummz having his wall of text and screenshots ready to post 2 seconds after Vavra comes out of the closet makes things rather obvious.
 

Elttharion

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He also gave the wokies the single biggest victory they could ever have and probably killed any kind of anti woke movement that was gaining traction in the gaming community.
If a movement was centered entirely on some dude wearing a based shirt and shitposting on twitter, then it never deserved to live anyways.
Its not that the movement was centered on Vavra but that if even 'based' games have gay protagonists and 'diversity done right' what the fuck is a woke game? You can justify anything with 'its just optional content'. People lost their shit with the trans surgery scars or pronouns in Veilguard. Well that shit was also tucked away into a corner of the game you would normally never see, just like the gay sex is reportedly hidden behind half a dozen options. Body type A/B is something you see once and never again. The pronouns on Starfield were there only during the character creator. Etc.

Even fucking Ubisoft at least used a dude that existed for their black samurai protagonist, as retarded as their decision was. Vavra just invented a dude wholesale and his character is so insanely ridiculous it makes the historian in me weep. Unless the anti wokes outrightly boycotted this game they just come out of this looking like gigantic hypocrites. FFS people like Grummz were mocking Ubisoft relentlessly for making Yasuke bissexual but they are now praising this. Well guess what man, its the same fucking thing, they are both optional and both retarded. Kingdom Come is actually worse since Henry was completely straight before.
 

Zed Duke of Banville

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This is the reason for Vavra selling out.
https://embracer.com/sustainability/smarter-business-framework/great-people/

Either he falls in line with the blackrock bail out because Embracer just listed on the Nasdaq. Or you know... they shut the studio down. I think they still will anyway because the bailout ain't going to work and this game isn't going to sell enough to save the entire group. Closures will continue and unless Warhorse has something else in the pipeline they'll be closed too.
The situation at Embracer is really fucking bad, they're facing a massive cost blowout. Further more Vavra was retarded and sold 100% stake in the company (never ever do that, if you actually give a shit about your employees and your studio you should at least have some ownership of it), so he has 0 control. His opinions don't even factor in, the studio is Embracers bitch.

This is just what happens when you sign a deal with the devil. Hopefully the shit can be modded out.
I might have missed this part but do we know why he sold the studio? Was there a tweet or something? I see 2 reasons: 1) the studio was having financial difficulties 2) he wanted the money to buy a yacht
The wealthy Czech who funded development of Kingdom Come: Deliverance acquired majority control of Warhorse Studios in exchange for that funding, then sold the company to Embracer within a year of KCD's release; I assume the minority shareholders had no choice but to sell their stakes at the same price per share, but I'm certainly not familiar with the applicable law in the Czech Republic.


Confirmed as woke then. Signs off with a woke apologist you're all as bad as each other.

"Some of them sadly turned into exactly the same narrative they pretend to be fighting against. The amount of hateful behavior is really sad and it will damage any cause associated with it."
Seen some others too, but can't recall their names. Some medium-popular supposedly anti-woke dudes. The only thing that was required was to confirm the leaks being true, lol. You would perhaps expect the opposite, going by their brand, but hey-ho.
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Elttharion

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Seen some others too, but can't recall their names. Some medium-popular supposedly anti-woke dudes. The only thing that was required was to confirm the leaks being true, lol. You would perhaps expect the opposite, going by their brand, but hey-ho.
Grummz having his wall of text and screenshots ready to post 2 seconds after Vavra comes out of the closet makes things rather obvious.
Vavra was stalking Grummz twitter timeline during this week, I saw him answer to at least of person who insulted him in a Grummz post.
 

Yosharian

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The noble black being in likely also means a wide softening of ALL racial conflicts in the game.
Open gay stuff means a modern vision of sexualization and less religion focus.
I also fear for the jews being very plot protected.
...what
 

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