Kingdom Come: Deliverance II Thread

[Larianshill]

You also need to do that yourself. I've never held a polearm in the entire game, NPCs knocked down the ladders for me.

 

[Konjad]

Oh look, warpig 's favorite:

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[Konjad]

Can you spot something out of place?

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[Raghar]

Can you spot something out of place?

The person sitting at the table that is leftmost is looking into different direction than the rest. That's quite out of place.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Oh look, warpig 's favorite:

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What is that ladle for?

 

[Konjad]

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[GloomFrost]

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Let me guess.... musa is also an incredible swordsman, fighter, brawler, dualist and doesn't even need to wear any armour or helmet to defeat everyone. Realistic, historic setting in all its glory.

 

[Skinwalker]

Cumsisters:

1. Falksi
2. Stavrophore
3. Yosharian
4. Camel

 

[herpenis]

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Let me guess.... musa is also an incredible swordsman, fighter, brawler, dualist and doesn't even need to wear any armour or helmet to defeat everyone. Realistic, historic setting in all its glory.

nope, he describes himself a coward in that cutscene and basically just bonks erik on the head because he was hyper-focused on killing henry
overall his presence there saving henry from erik (lol) was really stupid and gay, felt like a lame way of giving him relevance; you could've replaced him with any other character from jan zizka's team there and the story would not have changed

 

[lukaszek]

fyi so you dont waste time like i did. When you get to kutenberg area you are proud owner of sword your daddy forged. You also get a recipe to reforge it. I was pulling my hair as I could only get it to t3 and henry kept commenting that Im doing something wrong.
Turns up that indeed you can get it to t3 at most. Once you finish the game ratzig sword is ranamed to henry sword and then you can reforge it to t4.
Unless you reforged it earlier, then its stuck at t3. But why would you do that considering that there are better t4 longswords

 

[cvv]

i chuckled

 

[NecroLord]

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Let me guess.... musa is also an incredible swordsman, fighter, brawler, dualist and doesn't even need to wear any armour or helmet to defeat everyone. Realistic, historic setting in all its glory.

Sheeeiiit, he is mastah swordzman, he don't need no armor!

 

[ArcaneShifter]

So is this good or bad?....

Statements like that make one believe that copies were purchased by proxies to bump up sales numbers. Publishers have been doing this to put books on the best seller lists since forever. Or more recently with USAID buying subscriptions to Politico or NYT. How is the actual live player count?

212K players according to Steam. Is this typical for a game with 2M sales or not?

Using the boxleiter method I talked a few pages ago, KCD 2 sales on steam can range from ~600k (extremly pessimistic number) up to 1.9M (extremely optimistic number).
Most sites that track steam apps use this method or a similar method.
Here are some estimations for KCD2 on steamdb.

If you want to know wtf is boxleiter method check this

tl;dr is you should look at review count to get a better estimation of copies sold on steam. use steamdb.info to check steam sales estimation.

I think people who are making these claims forget that KC2 released on consoles as well. So looking just at Steam player count won't give you the correct number of sold copies.

 

[Zariusz]

One really good thing that can be said about KCD 2 is optimalisation, after Dragons Dogma 2 i felt like my PC is straight on its way to retirement but so far KCD 2 was very smooth with only 1 crash on account. While it's still a mix of low and medium settings, i don't complain about graphics those look good enough.

 

[Grampy_Bone]

I get a crystal clear 60fps at 2k on a 2070 super with most settings on high and moderate DLSS. Better performance than any Unreal engine games.

 

[Roguey]

The ego on Vavra here:

I dare to say, that among other things, people like KCD2 for its believable characters and story. I like such games too and thats why we tried to make one. And the question is - why is there so few games with stories like RDR, MGS or W3? Why are stories in games so often so bad?

My opinion is, that games, unlike movies, are developed more as a product, with teams and boards etc. While Hollywood understands, that they need to have artists first - director and screenwriter. They they need a vision and its holder, despite the risks associated with it.

"Believable characters" like Musa and Katherine.

Vavra thinking Rockslop, Kojimbo, and Witcher 3 (the blandest, most Hollywood main story of the series) are the pinnacle of game writing says a lot about him.

Good thing we have a visionary artist like Vavra to deliver us Kingdom Come Deliverance, free of being developed as product to consume by teams and boards. Though that bit about movies isn't universally applicable; all (or at least most of) the big budget stuff is focus tested, producers' noted, script doctored ad nauseam. WB took a chance on the Joker sequel without any of that and got burned significantly by trusting the "artist." Fortunately for Dan here, seems most people don't care about his particular self-indulgences.

 

[Cpt. Dallas]

. WB took a chance on the Joker sequel without any of that and got burned significantly by trusting the "artist."

Make no mistake, that was intentional. Far too many of the 'wrong people' enjoyed that film, or at least the message they took from it, for Hollywood not to burn it and salt the earth. You could see it in the memes. In their eyes, The Joker had to be humiliated. KCD2 has some of that dynamic, but largely diluted. Fortunately, they were too late.

 

[cvv]

Vavra thinking Rockslop, Kojimbo, and Witcher 3 (the blandest, most Hollywood main story of the series) are the pinnacle of game writing says a lot about him.

What are the best written modern day games according to Roguey?

 

[AwesomeButton]

Roguey knows nothing about KCD2 because he isn't playing it and is in no position to analyse its writing. You might as well argue with your car radio.

The writing does reveal a human side to the main characters which you wouldn't find in recent high-budgeted games. I would also add Assassin's Creed Origins to Vavra's list, but I haven't played MGS.

 

[Zariusz]

Im not sure if he really has writing on his mind, RDR, Witcher and MGS aren't masterpieces but everyone knows those titles, even if an average gamer never touched them he at least would heard that they are good. I bet if you asked some normies what a good game is, those titles would be at least mentioned. I feel its more like Vavra's saying "See, KCD is no longer janky game played by autists and chuds, we play with the big boys now". Maybe that theory about selling out so KCD can get game awards and recognition from mainstream journos has some merit.

If we assume that he was just balancing and riding the wave then there can be some level of cynical rationalism for monetary gains(even if short termed) behind that but doing that for attention (and especially from such retarded and false circle as mainstream game journalism) is closer to the behavior of a teenage girl who wants to be famous just because, that would be pathetic honestly if not just sad.

 

[cvv]

if an average gamer never touched them he at least would heard that they are good.

It's not about them being "good" tho, just well written. RDR2 is a p. terrible game but the writing is top notch. TW3 gameplay is meh at best but again, the characters and dialogue are first class.

Not sure why is Vavra mentioning Kojimbo, I've only played MSG5 and while the gameplay is godlike it has some of the most retarded writing I've ever seen.

But I'm waiting for Roguey to endow us with his take on what are the masterfully written games in the last decade or so.

 

[lukaszek]

kcd2 is def influenced by cp77. Look at the story flow with all the lengty cutscenes. Issue is that it mostly sucks and you can keep skipping dialogues without losing much. It's not just about being lengthy/boring, half of dialogues are useless, dont bring anything. Did you also notice how random characters like to dump their life stories on you?

It's like with hollywood movies for a while now, thats not how humans speak

 

[AwesomeButton]

kcd2 is def influenced by cp77. Look at the story flow with all the lengty cutscenes.

I attributed this more to Vavra playing at movie director. BTW is this Vavra's father who is Father Godwin?

Many "dialogues" are just window dressing, in fact the quest won't progress until you say all the lines, and your only choice is the order in which to ask the questions. This is mirroring CP77 from today's perspective, but in reality it functioned the same way in KCD1. But then it's the same in Witcher 3, which preceeds KCD1, so you could still say KCD1 took after Witcher 3, which I think is widely accepted to be the case.

In other cases though, there are "optional" dialogue lines and some of them are traps, where Henry says something stupid or offends the other person.

I keep seeing those reputation gained/lost notifications, but I haven't seen an NPC change its attitude towards Henry as a result of picking bad or rude dialogue options.

 

[herpenis]

"Believable characters" like Musa and Katherine.

i found katherine's massive tits quite believable

 

[lukaszek]

I keep seeing those reputation gained/lost notifications, but I haven't seen an NPC change its attitude towards Henry as a result of picking bad or rude dialogue options.

I do also wonder about those. I expect that it matters only in early quests, when your speec is low. For example when dealing with herbwoman daughter. At that time I was able to pass the check after carefully picking my options.
Afterwards? I have my doubts that it matters at all.

However if it goes too low you will be attacked, shopkeeper will kick you out on sight.