KickStarter Knights of the Chalice 2 Thread - Augury of Chaos

[Darth Roxor]

I have no doubt about that.

 

[Dorateen]

How is the stability with version 1.05. Any crashes, and are games loading from different save slots?

 

[AdolfSatan]

Agree that the game feels more fair now. And no crashes whatsoever so far, nearing the end of chapter 3.

 

[Darth Roxor]

Yep, only crashes I had were on quick loading, but those were very few.

 

[Darth Canoli]

Naturally, I'm now entering into terra incognita (for me), so odds are things might get dicey again. But being able to at least fucking level up on the spot really just makes all the difference...

Without any spoiler, i can tell you it will.
And real soon...

Spoiler

The G. K., the H., P., T. S. Q. ...

How is the stability with version 1.05. Any crashes, and are games loading from different save slots?

1.04 removed the spellcasters crashes (or 1.05) and these were the only ones i experienced but i don't use quicksave.
I loaded older saves a couple of times as well and never had any problem on 1.03 (i'm writting down my progress for each save to be able to use them)

 

[Darth Roxor]

Goblin arena is a pretty great fight, I have to say. I just spent like 2 hours on it - imagine how much I raged when the fucking bard had to get just 4 damage on a 95% roll to finish off the mino mage (second last enemy remaining)... and he got 3. And then the mage stood up and smacked him dead for 50 damage. There goes my raise dead scroll.

I was also praying hard for the game not to crash after the fight since I think this was one of the more infamous crashes? Fortunately it didn't.

 

[Tacgnol]

Goblin arena is a pretty great fight, I have to say. I just spent like 2 hours on it - imagine how much I raged when the fucking bard had to get just 4 damage on a 95% roll to finish off the mino mage (second last enemy remaining)... and he got 3. And then the mage stood up and smacked him dead for 50 damage. There goes my raise dead scroll.

I was also praying hard for the game not to crash after the fight since I think this was one of the more infamous crashes? Fortunately it didn't.

Yep that fight crashed four times for me in total. Always towards the end of the fight as well whenever I was doing well.

Fortunately, I think Pierre has mostly resolved the crashes on that particular fight now.

 

[AdolfSatan]

The goblin arena fight I found surprisingly easy even on the first version of the game. Cast acorns of Earthquake on the first turn, kill 95% of the goblins, fight the big guys with a fresh party.

Probably close to the end, but I don't think my impressions will change by the time I'm done. Engine's great, AI quite impressive, but the module itself is very hit-and-miss. The fun parts are great, but then there are times when the pacing's all fucked-up, and the puzzle-fights that have only one way of solving are bullshit.
Gotta admit that while the grafix themselves are rather fugly, the game plays super smooth with the top-down token style and at no point I found myself wishing for an isometric version, so I take back all the shit I said about that during the ks campaign.

So yeah, pretty much what everyone else has said. Hopefully Pierre will listen to the criticism and deliver a more polished module next year.


PS: Is it me, or the pally companion is a worthless piece of shit?

 

[Trash Player]

Having an extra martial, a suboptimal one to boot, at that point isn't terribly helpful.

 

[Darth Roxor]

So I hear the goblin king is hard because he summons vrocks.

All I can say is, if you make a tactical retreat and block the way to his room with quicksand, all he does is waste all his spell slots on retarded useless shit and doesn't summon anything

edit: and then your game crashes because the AI can't handle that much thinking...

 

[Darth Roxor]

enemy force reduced to blinded vrock at 30 hp and two <10 hp goblins

well this fight wasn't actually that ter...

*crash*

...

Spoiler

 

[NJClaw]

PS: Is it me, or the pally companion is a worthless piece of shit?

Having an extra martial, a suboptimal one to boot, at that point isn't terribly helpful.

She can use divine scrolls. She is not an "extra martial", but an extra caster who can spam Heal while your Cleric does something more useful.

 

[Sotomonte]

enemy force reduced to blinded vrock at 30 hp and two <10 hp goblins

well this fight wasn't actually that ter...

*crash*

...

Spoiler

Crash is a high level spell used by enemies that causes stun and exhaustion on the player ... this is what is called metagame

anyway ... any news about when this game, and the first one, will come out on GOG?

 

[Darth Roxor]

At this point it feels like crashes/bugs are the main antagonist for me.

The goblin king fight isn't bad at all. If you get a proper starting formation and launch a quicksand into the corridor to the south room where all the gobs are pouring out of, you have a pretty reasonable margin for assorted failures, and if you're lucky, Magebane on a dude with many attacks can make short work of the vrock.

But then the game crashes as I'm about to win. Or it crashes when a goblin's AI overheats from trying to figure out wot do with both quicksand and entangle. Or the goblin king walks into the quicksand and somehow decides to cast dispel magic, but he can't do it, so the game freezes in mid-cast. Or I get spell failure from rubble when my guy is not even affected by rubble. Or moving into/out of the middle sewer trench shows a longer possible movement path than what can actually be crossed.

 

[Darth Canoli]

enemy force reduced to blinded vrock at 30 hp and two <10 hp goblins

well this fight wasn't actually that ter...

*crash*

2 crashes in a row ?
Funny how the game crashes in different places for everyone.
For me, it was the stairs in the goblin "arena" and the area after the goblin king along with the salamander area in the crypt.

Did you send your crash infos to Pierre ?
Might be helpful, he probably thinks he dealt with all the bugs from this area already.

She can use divine scrolls. She is not an "extra martial", but an extra caster who can spam Heal while your Cleric does something more useful.

So can Erz, he's not that good either, except for the end of the lower sewers area but he can nuke a little and heal.
Maybe i didn't use the right spell to cure her but she looked really bad, really disappointing for all the enchanting stones you have to spend to recruit her.

 

[Jasede]

Should have played the older versions, when Pierre didn't have a chance to introduce new bugs.

 

[Darth Canoli]

At this point it feels like crashes/bugs are the main antagonist for me.

The goblin king fight isn't bad at all. If you get a proper starting formation and launch a quicksand into the corridor to the south room where all the gobs are pouring out of, you have a pretty reasonable margin for assorted failures, and if you're lucky, Magebane on a dude with many attacks can make short work of the vrock.

But then the game crashes as I'm about to win. Or it crashes when a goblin's AI overheats from trying to figure out wot do with both quicksand and entangle. Or the goblin king walks into the quicksand and somehow decides to cast dispel magic, but he can't do it, so the game freezes in mid-cast. Or I get spell failure from rubble when my guy is not even affected by rubble. Or moving into/out of the middle sewer trench shows a longer possible movement path than what can actually be crossed.

Maybe try something else, i used stinking cloud on the king's corridor and didn't get any crash.
It gives you some time to deal with the rest and eventually the Vrock and then you remove the first one and cast another one at the bottom on the king or silence and it's done.

You can also use energy stun at some point.

 

[Darth Roxor]

Oof. Gobbo king is dead.

Sucker never even got to summon his stupid vrocks

When in doubt, spam call lightning, fireball and pipes of pain.

 

[Darth Roxor]

also, whoever said that samurais are terrible, clearly hasn't seen one consistently crit big niggas for 80 damage

 

[Trash Player]

Martials that have no action economy advantage or utilities are suboptimal. Enchantments alone can do so much work, whatever damage bonus the class provides will be drowned out.

 

[Darth Roxor]

Killing the hydra in two hits strongly disagrees

 

[Mortmal]

also, whoever said that samurais are terrible, clearly hasn't seen one consistently crit big niggas for 80 damage

Pretty much everyone who finished the game will tell you, samurai is not worth it compare to gladiator and fighters. Of course you are playing the cheat engine version of kotc 2 so with no need of gold for leveling and best gear possible i suppose everything seems to work now.

 

[Darth Roxor]

best gear possible

I don't use craftung, and I sure as hell can't buy everything from the shops, because every piece of gear is so ridiculously expensive.

 

[Mortmal]

best gear possible

I don't use craftung, and I sure as hell can't buy everything from the shops, because every piece of gear is so ridiculously expensive.

Yes it a monthy haul and shops have prices the like you only see in tourists shops in china .Still you can afford a few hundreds K items with that leveling shit cost removed .

 

[AdolfSatan]

tbh most good items are drops/finds, the only thing I recall buying asap at the stores were the cloaks of SR28

The economy on itself makes no sense whatsoever though, it's like he just bashed the numpad and let that be.