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Baltika9

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Giving the real sword to Wuxing to preserve his face and rep.
They are Patriarchy Enablers and rape apologists. They are the enemy.
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Man Tiger Pig is a staunch feminist ally who respects the independence of female thought and fights against the oppression of the Orthodox Pugilist Patriarchy.
Funny thing is, I can't really decide if you are joking.

I mean, our allies are almost exclusively girls. We saved Lingshu from a forced wedding. We insisted that a woman could rule over the sect just as easily as a man would. We encouraged BJ's quest for independence. We let our girls do what they want. Qilin is basically pushing us around as she pleases. And the nuns adore us to the point they choose us to be the one to represent them.

OMG, we are a warrior for the women rights in the setting.

...still can't decide.
 

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Man Tiger Pig is a staunch feminist ally who respects the independence of female thought and fights against the oppression of the Orthodox Pugilist Patriarchy.
I don't know if this is meant as a joke but it's pretty much true. Jing consults women practically every time he makes a decision.

Of course, he's usually not travelling with men.
 

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As the ancient Chinese proverb goes, "Behind every successful man, there is a woman."

The 'strong women' of the jianghu tend to subscribe to the 'power behind the throne' philosophy, with few exceptions.
 

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Chi Qilin is very subtle. She would let us have all the titles and honors, only to make us use them to her benefit later.

Yunzi, on the other hand...
 

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And Song Lingshu.

Qilin would likely take the backseat in public matters, though. She prefers the role of whispering into your ear.
 

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I just meant the fact that Sect Head for the Wudu Cult is a matrilineal title. I don't see Jing usurping that position unless he massively outperforms her at the Huashan Summit to the point where he's another Tulu Huodu.
 

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From that point of view, yes, she'd be a rather public figurehead. Still, the Wudu Sect itself is also an organization that highly prefers 'power behind the throne' approaches where possible. She would be pleased for Jing to gain a public position of power that far outranks her own.

“Excellent work, darling.” Qilin gives you a wide, proud grin after you tell them of what has transpired. “With this, you now have the backing of both our Wudu Cult and the Fire Temple.”

“…your domination of the pugilistic world is not far away now, Jing…” adds Cao’er dreamily.

Like, say, undisputed leader of the entire jianghu.

edit: Think of it as being the Empress; a powerful position in and of itself, but you can have an Empress that attempts to dictate policy, or one that attempts to influence it. Qilin would be the latter type.
 

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Would Jing be remotely interested in ruling the jianghu?

I suppose he might be now, if he rationalizes it as the best method to protect everybody.
 

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Oh, come on. Ruling the jianghu means you get the best fights. It's not a boring chore like ruling the country.
 

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Oh, come on. Ruling the jianghu means you get the best fights. It's not a boring chore like ruling the country.
If it involves managing the jianghu it could very easily end up a chore. Have you seen the orthodox side of the wulin lately? Constantly getting into squabbles.
 

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Easily fixable by killing the Douchebag Council and putting a new Frathouse in charge.
 

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That would count as delegating, in which case Jing isn't managing the jianghu himself.

He'd probably prefer it that way, though.
 

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Uh, I don't think we'd be able to take over all Eight Sects. Being the Undisputed Leader is what Big Wang did, only giving slightly more fucks. Cool job, that.
 

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Nah, he was only the big honcho of the Eight Sects orthodoxy. Undisputed leader really means everyone acknowledges you as the Man, including the unorthodox side. That means Zhang Jue, too.
 

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If we end up ruling jianghu then there will be plenty of challengers for us to take.
I imagine that Bai Jiutian wouldn't let us have without a fight to rule Jianghu.

Besides we probably end us as traveling mysterious master with the way we have doing and leave sect ruling to pros like Guo Fu, Wudang brothers, Song Linghsu etc,etc-
We only appear when they need a hero.
We are the hero that jianghu needs, but doesn't not deserve.
We will be the dark knight harem badass that save everybody, especially the maidens.
 

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Hmm... does Zhang Jue need us to surpass him, to prove his superiority as a teacher as well as a fighter?

I guess we can't refuse him in that case, can we?

I think I am getting used to the DEMONZ. He gives us ambition that we otherwise lack. Somewhat.
 

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Well, he did say he wants to make us strongest pugilist of all the time...
Besides I doubt that he really minds us surpassing him, since all that the man needs is good fight and his love of technique crafting.
 

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As leader, you'd have to arbitrate disputes, particularly ones between the orthodox and unorthodox sides.

For example, you would have been able to impose your authority in handling cases like the debt between Yao and Lingshu's father. Of course, the result might not be ideal for some, and they might call you a tyrant and threaten to revolt, in which case your response might be to send a couple of Amesha Spenta around to burn their mountain down. Or perhaps Zhang Jue just destroyed another minor sect who crossed his path, and you have to be able to tell him to cut it out or lose legitimacy in the eyes of the jianghu.

That's the sort of stuff you'd be doing. If you don't have the power to impose your will, you aren't the leader.

You would also be the first line of defense if another foreign pugilist invasion occurs, of course.
 

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Or perhaps Zhang Jue just destroyed another minor sect who crossed his path, and you have to be able to tell him to cut it out or lose legitimacy in the eyes of the jianghu.
Can't... can't we just give the man a quota? No more than 1 sect per month?

It looks like we'll be taking all the fun from his life.
 

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Does he even give a fuck about legitimacy?
 

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