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[LP CYOA] Epic

Discussion in 'Choose Your Own Adventure Land' started by treave, Jun 23, 2012.

  1. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Why, I don't know what you're talking about.
    And I wouldn't even if I did.
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  2. Esquilax Arcane

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    First, I'd like to note that I don't actually know whether our mysterious masked ally is a Watcher or not, that was only me speculating based on his signet ring and his in-depth knowledge of Dio's life. Anyways, treave, the reason I figured that there was more to the masked man than simply being a shady manipulator or rogue Watcher as I initially thought was this exchange:

    First, there's the unusual language that he's using: "You are worthy of our aid", indicating that there's more than one of him. Then there's his description of Dio being "smart and ruthless enough to retake your mantle" when the original Ean wasn't really that ruthless even with his hunger, he fought against his nature at every opportunity. The biggest giveaway though is the bright flash of light, followed by the subsequent awakening of our powers, which indicates something awakened our/Ean's memories. I don't know what to make of the sickly sweet smell, but that's unusual too.

    Considering how the spheres knew more about Ean's memories and life than even he remembered himself, this all strikes me as very odd. Dio can't remember his life before age 10 either, yet now he's privy to Ean's memories of fighting alongside Sargon in Egypt and going through the Labyrinth.

    Then there's the matter of how good the spheres were at creating remarkable illusions:

    From Ean's POV, there's a really strange disconnect between the events. We tough it out through 3,000 years of torture, then we meet with the Master, who agrees to send us back into the void since they can't bring us back to Earth yet. But instead of appearing in the void, all of a sudden we're thrown into a character creation phase with four different options. Wtf? There just seems to be something that occurred in between here that's missing, and it gives me the feeling that we never really left the void at all.

    Call me nuts, but I don't think that this is implausible. The spheres have constructed an elaborate world where they pose as the masked man and his allies in an attempt to finally corrupt Ean so that he "wins" their little game. You're probably laughing your ass off while reading this, though.
     
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  3. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Esquilax,it is very plausible indeed.I will be at a decent keyboard in about 1.5h and write a corollary to your theory.I think the Prince is another aspect of Ean, his goodness and humanity.Unless treave denies it(yeah right.) I'm sure Master was real.
     
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  4. treave Arcane Patron

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    Esquilax: not denying anything yet, but it's possible to explain those without using spheres, no?

    A2 - 9
    B2 - 5
    C - 1

    Voting's closed.
     
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  5. Tigranes Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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  6. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Wait asecond... Ean isn't the Emperor. He is Chaos Undivided!
    :eek:
    Soldier=Khorne.
    Prophet=Slaanesh.
    Dio=Tzeench.
    Hunger=Malal.
    And Nurgle hasn't manifested yet.
     
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  7. Sorry, no can do. We're going after that octopussy! :P
     
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  8. newcomer Learned

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    Let's see... one possible scenario without spheres:
    - Ean got fucked by the spheres & managed to escape, but split into different personalities
    - The masked man is our sentient sword
    - Our sword chooses Dio because he hopes Dio would be less "honourable" and thus allow him to eat more
     
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  9. treave Arcane Patron

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    Chapter 7.6: House Arrest

    You lash out with your mind with no warning. The shove catches Aodh entirely by surprise and he topples over the railing. Then, there is a thud as the body hits the floor. You peer over the parapet.

    Aodh was lying on the grass, face up. Blood was pooling around him. You see him looking up at you, his expression utterly changed. Where his eyes were soft and warm before, they were now dead and lifeless, gazing vacantly into the air. His face now seemed to be nothing more than a mask, though that amused smirk still remained plastered on his lips. He was dead, you think.

    Then the smirk widens into a grin, and those dead eyes fix right at you.

    You have no time to wonder what was going on. He was still alive, and you can't let him get away. Resolving yourself to finish him off, you hurry down the stairs. Right as you step into the courtyard, you bump into a squad of five prefects. Two of them were already looking over Aodh's body.

    You try to play it cool.

    "Sir! Prefect! I saw someone fall from the floor above!" you cry. The leader of the squad, a burly man with a great big bushy beard, eyes you suspiciously. "Is the man alright?" you ask. He shakes his head, making a quick gesture across his throat with his finger - it looks like Aodh was dead. You heave a sigh of relief inwardly, but the prefect's next question kills that relief immediately.

    "You are Diogenes Camna, are you not?"

    You have a bad feeling about this, but you nod.

    "Then you're coming with us. One of the servants saw you throw this man off the balcony after stabbing him. This is a case of murder and a serious violation under Imperial law."

    You are struck speechless for a while. There had been no one around when you did the deed, and you hadn't even used your hands. There should've been no proof. "That's impossible, prefect. I saw him fall, yes, but I couldn't have killed him. Who's the one who accused me wrongly?"

    "As I said, sir, a servant saw you do it. The justiciar will sort things out, so if you would just come to the courts with -"

    "I am Diogenes Camna, head of House Camna and servant of the Prince!" If asking nicely wouldn't work, you would try to bully your way out. "I refuse to be treated like a common criminal when I am innocent of any crime!"

    ***

    Unfortunately for you, it didn't work. You did manage to convince the justiciar to put you under house arrest while everything was sorted out, but you were not free. As you brooded in your chambers, wondering if Aodh did go as far as to frame you for his own murder somehow, an unfamiliar voice whispered in your ears. "Master Ean."

    You draw back with a start, whipping out your dagger. It was the masked man... except taller, with a different voice. You suppose this is one of the masked man's accomplices, but without proof you couldn't be sure. It could be anyone under that mask.

    "Who are you?"

    "A friend of the one who first came in contact with you."

    "Prove it."

    "I do not need to prove anything, but if you require, I can tell a tale about the sins you have committed. The letter we helped send to your father, how his own dagger found its way into his breast, why your fiancee actually hung herself... and of course, the memories and powers you have been developing."

    You lower the dagger, watching the man intently. "What happened to the last man? Is he busy tonight?"

    "Ah, that is why I have come. He was captured, and is presumably dead by now. I was going to inform you of that, and to tell you that you should no longer use the method he gave you previously to contact us. It has been compromised, and we will give you a new code. Unfortunately, judging by the prefects posted around your house, it seems that I came too late to prevent you from being strung up in their trap. They act fast."

    You grasp at your hair in frustration. "Just what is going on here? If there is something going on, you leave me in the dark until it is too late? I've been arrested, and my secret is known!"

    "Calm, Master Ean. We have been in great danger on our part, and have had to act very carefully. We apologize for the delay, but we are finally ready to act."

    "Act on what? Stop speaking in riddles."

    The masked man bows. "Understood, Master Ean. You are, as you well know, the reincarnation of the First Emperor."

    "I don't feel like it."

    "The memories you possess and the powers you wield are proof of it. It is unmistakable."

    "The memories I can do without. They irritate and distract me." You had no love for this supposed Emperor and his memories. They were irrelevant things that happened thousands of years ago.

    "We are the Watchers, founded by the God-Emperor Ean himself as his eyes and ears. As his reincarnation, we serve you with everything we have. Our aim is to restore you to power. Unfortunately, some of our brethren do not agree with us, and it is they who are attempting to destroy you."

    "They framed me."

    "Yes, Master Ean. As expected of one with your intelligence. The man you thought you killed was one of them. Though they captured one of us - the one who you had met with - they were probably unable to extract evidence from him, only hearsay. Based on that they would not have been able to convict you, so instead they chose to lure you into committing yet another crime."

    "I didn't commit any crime."

    "Ah, in front of your loyal servants there is no need to hide your actions, Master Ean, though we fully appreciate your skill at deception. Now, all might seem lost, but it is within our expectations. You did not act fully within their expectations either, and they will have a hard time attempting to prove it was indeed you that killed the man, particularly since they cannot show the body in public, for the simple reason that there is no body to show. That does not mean time is on your side, Master Ean, as eventually they will be able to either track down evidence or fabricate it. By restricting your activities, they are on the verge of victory. But all is not lost. As I have said, we are finally ready to act."

    "And as I have asked you before, act on what?"

    "To eventually obtain you the throne, Master Ean. We have learnt that the rural madman is planning to assault the capital in five nights. Daring and mad, but that is not unexpected. In the confusion, we will have prepared ways to remove the obstacles in your path."

    "I suppose all I have to do is sit here while you murder all of my rivals?"

    "Unfortunately, that will not do, Master Ean. We do need you to lead us and show us your strength. You have a target for assassination too, and we will help you achieve it."

    You sigh. "Who do I kill this time?"

    "Prince Runikylos, who even now does not believe that you are responsible for the murder of his trusted man, and has ordered his men to investigate this case personally. Of course, his men will never tell him of your innocence. Nonetheless, he remains an obstacle to your rule, Master Ean, and you too know he must go. If he ever finds out of your true nature, he would be a deadly enemy. Two of us will be accompanying you on that night to silence the good prince for good."

    You gaze at the masked man quietly. There were some things in his tale that didn't seem to add up, but you were in a desperate position. If what he said was true, you had been caught up in events beyond your knowledge, and you could not scheme until you know more. Unfortunately, being under house arrest, your only source of knowledge would be these mysterious masked people, and that could be unreliable.

    ***

    A. You will murder the Prince, according to their plan. Power is at hand! Becoming the Emperor of the Empire is all you have ever dreamed of, and thought you would never accomplish. Now that the chance has fallen in your lap, there is nothing to do but take it. Should history regard you as a coward who dared not reach for his dreams?

    B. You will lead the two assassins to the Prince, then kill them in front of him and pretend they had forced you to do everything that he knows you have done - whatever it is that he knows. You really aren't that interested in being top dog, you just want to be second. Besides, you don't trust these people.

    C. You will have no part of this. No more plotting, no more scheming, no more risk-taking... at least for now. You refuse the masked man's plot.
     
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  10. Kipeci Magister

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    :bro:

    I'm not sure about this one, if anyone has convincing arguments I'd be willing to go for them. I'm tentatively for A, but... that just seems dodgy about helping us, I don't know. The Prince is pretty bro and I hate being the scumbag who would shank him in the kidneys, but that's hardly a blip on our scale of evil, so...

    EDIT: Still A, but if it's not getting any more votes than C consider this to be a flop to B.
     
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  11. treave Arcane Patron

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    Edited option B for it to be more Dio-ish.
     
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  12. Baltika9 Arcane

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    B for now.
    This is all too suspicious because it is so smooth. I'm afraid that if we blindly kill him without knowing the circumstances, we may fuck this shit up bad.
    Besides which, if we save him from the assassins, we'll be his best bud and will be able to get away with many things.
     
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  13. Smashing Axe Arcane Patron

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    God damn, seems like B2 would have been the best option. That or C. Oh well, at least it wasn't a complete botch.

    I've no idea what to vote in this instance, A, B and C seem very interesting as options. I'm leaning towards B but I just don't know.
     
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  14. treave Arcane Patron

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    B2... would've led to a Watcher not on your side visiting you pretending to be the masked man, and then attempting to stab you in the back immediately. It's not exactly the absolutely worst choice because you do have your own masked buddies watching your back, and you wouldn't have been under house arrest. Worst choice was probably A1, where your dagger would've been in Aodh when he fell and you wouldn't even be granted house arrest. Straight to prison. The absolute best choice was to not work for the Prince in the first place, in which case Aodh wouldn't have found you out by utter coincidence and figured out the plot of this particular faction of Watchers. At least they're not blaming you for fucking up and still calling you Master.

    I mean, sooner or later a clash was still going to happen, but it happened way too early for Dio to gain any sort of foothold this time.
     
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  15. Baltika9 Arcane

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    No, B2 was the worst.
     
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  16. Kipeci Magister

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    Remember how they said that the Watcher had been compromised? That's why B2 would've been a bad move.
    Edit: Alas, I've been emu'd.
     
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  17. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Hey, treave, how many Runikylos' have there been?
    Is this Prince Runikylos the 47th? (RK-47)
    Also, do the records have anything on the Second Emperor? AKA Ean Jr?
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    Inb4 Shulgi stole our girl and our throne.
    Seriously, though. What happened to Lil' Ean?
     
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  18. Tigranes Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    It's a decent outcome, all things concerned. I'm curious as to what C would have done, but we're still in this game.

    Although I don't have the time to unravel it at the moment, their story really does seem fishy. B is tempting just for its coolness, but this one is an equally difficult choice...
     
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  19. Kipeci Magister

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    How did Athena and the various immortals we know fare?
     
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  20. treave Arcane Patron

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    You'll find out sooner or later.

    Later, given that you're playing the noble caught up in events far beyond his understanding. In terms of finding out about what happened, from most knowledgeable to least knowledgeable:

    1) Madman (through a Malkavian-ish filter of madness)
    2) Watcher
    3) Noble
    4) Soldier (who won't even have Watchers visiting him due to his unimportance at the beginning, and as such forges his own path just like the Madman)
     
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  21. Kipeci Magister

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    The madman seems to be having all the fun.
     
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  22. Bloodshifter Educated

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    B
    I don't want to risk killing the cure to the kingdom
     
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  23. Baltika9 Arcane

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    By the way, really regretting not taking the lightning power-up back at Tjaru right now.
    In other words:
    [​IMG]
     
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  24. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Oh-ho, you smart bastards.
    Perhaps these rogue Watchers want Dio on the throne because his rotten character and misdeeds will make him an easily manipulable puppet?
    Think about it, they know all of Dio's misdeeds. Threatening to reveal them to the public would be be a very strong set of strings.

    And perhaps Dio is not a reincarnation, but implanted with a fraction of Ean?
    Edit: Why? Power. For them or their...Masters.
     
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  25. Esquilax Arcane

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    treave, would C involve waiting for a trial?

    This could be one of Aodh's Watchers. The information that he's giving us is stuff that Aodh's Watchers would have known anyways, so this guy could be luring us into an assassination attempt so that we can finally get caught in the act.

    This could just be an attempt to spur us into making a foolish decision. But it's also correct. So if this is one of Aodh's people, they're putting us in a Catch-22: we go along with the assassination and we're caught red-handed, but if we don't, they fabricate evidence against us regardless. However, the evidence itself is extremely thin considering how well we covered our tracks. Our next move would be a trial if we pick C:

    We have a few things working in our favour:
    1. There's no body to show from the "murder", since Aodh is still alive and kicking. They can't produce Aodh... well, unless he plays dead in the middle of the court.
    2. Thania killed herself. They'd probably bring her family to testify against us. Fortunately, we burned her letter and the Emperor feels guilty about this one.
    3. Velius' suicide. This one could be problematic. As Aodh said, the "medicine" we used was pretty damning of our intentions, so we'd need to find out how to counter this.
    My suggestion is this, bros: pretend for a second that you're Dio's defense lawyer. What kind of arguments would you make against the charges laid against him, fabricated or otherwise? I'm serious, if you're voting C, plan a defense for Dio.

    B could work, but it poses its own problems as well:

    We don't really know what the prince knows. So assuming we double-cross the assassins successfully, we'd still have to correctly determine what the prince knows to get him to trust us again. Keeping our story straight is going to be kind of hard - if we fuck up one detail, he'll find out that we've been deceiving him the whole time. Worse yet, if these Watchers are actually our guys, they might turn against us for the betrayal. It could fuck us over much worse in the long run.

    I'm tentatively voting for C, but I'm willing to flop to B. If one of you is able to clue in on the allegiance of this new masked man from the text, I'm all ears. The problem here is that we can't trust this source at all - for all we know, it could be one of Aodh's Watchers. However, if we keep affirming our innocence and we let this go to a trial, we can use our Watchers to counteract any fabrication of evidence that Aodh's people might come up with. It seems much wiser in the long-term.
     
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