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[LP CYOA] Epic

Discussion in 'Choose Your Own Adventure Land' started by treave, Jun 23, 2012.

  1. Baltika9 Arcane

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    I leave you for one goddamn week. Goddamn B, fuck your cyborgs and fuck Azo, Shulgi and Kyrie will live.

    Find them, keep them safe.
     
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  2. Rex Feral Liturgist

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    I value integrity and I would take responsibility and continue. But I refuse to suffer for a choice I did not make. And anyone who didn't vote A2 should make up their minds and vote for a reload.



    Also, it would be nice if those who voted for A2 would change their vote for a reload :troll:
     
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  3. Esquilax Arcane

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    I've made my bed, I'll lie in it. Flopped.

    A

    Edit: Lambchop19, yeah, I meant A. I know it sucks but we've soldiered on with Ean when we reached a bad end... so why not here? I realize we weren't offered a choice then but I dunno, just seems popamole. In any case, I believe treave won't be updating for a couple of days, so perhaps I'll mull things over and go with a reload if I decide to give into powergaming faggotry.
     
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  4. ScubaV Prophet

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    Baltika9 and Esquilax not sure if you guys realize B isn't an option (well it is, but it's for reload, so you have to either choose A or pick something in addition to reload to).

    I also voted A2, but I'm not ashamed of savescumming now and again. :smug:
     
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  5. aleam iacis Scholar

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    reload! I'm not sure if A1 or B2 is more Senya? A2 wasn't very Senya as it was pretty straightforward and without pragmatically sticking to our plan or attempting to see where Naim would lead us, instead it was us showing our cards to a guy we don't particularly respect for no good reason. A1 is more keep our cards to our chest and look down on Naim, B2 is more look down on Naim and try to milk some info from him and consider manipulating/using him.

    Would B2 give us more info? I want a character that actually learns about the plots going on around him!!! But without being a slasher psychopath whom nobody loves :(
     
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  6. Esquilax, it's not just your bed, it's the rest of ours as well. You were wrong. Deal with it and move on to being right again.

    Flopped to A1 to prevent codex from ruining shit 2 updates in a row. (Even though I'm still not convinced this is better than C...)

    Ok, I'm C, but if Esquilax confirms a flop to A (think it was a typo from the brofist of root's post), consider me flopping to A1.
    edit: Unless treave is counting the reloaders as a whole (which would really only be fair. I mean, 4 vs 7...).

    A1 unless by some miracle C becomes viable, then C.
     
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  7. Smashing Axe Arcane Patron

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    Well it depends on how treave is counting the votes. Will those in opposition to the cyborg choice be grouped together, or will each subset of B be counted on its own? I'd suggest sticking to C for the moment, lamby
     
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  8. treave Arcane Patron

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    Well, if the reloaders can't actually agree on what to reload on, I'm not inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt and strike down A.

    I'm sure there are those that would rather go A than reload to C.
     
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  9. Smashing Axe Arcane Patron

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    Could those of us who chose to do so vote B, but with a preference vote for one subset? Or is that too much of a pain to deal with?

    Democracy is a bitch.
     
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  10. treave Arcane Patron

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    It's not hard to count, but again I'm not keen on counting B-voters as a unanimous bloc unless they would never, ever pick A over any of the other remaining options for a reload.

    To make things clear, B voters should state their order of preference like Rex did, and then I'll see how to work things out from there.

    To give A a fair shake; it does cut through all the lengthy build-up and drops you right before the Shulgi saga's end-game.

    edit: Update comes in about 30+ hours.
     
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  11. That was Ean's game. Senya's is weeaboo and therefore supposed to incorporate things like bad ends.

    Hell, this is EXACTLY like the Theseus situation now. Complete with you acting in a similar way "oops, well, Ean's dead, let's accept it and move on". Bro, you screwed up. Man up and don't make the rest of us who didn't vote that or the people that followed your vote pay for it. Naim as the world's greatest hero? For killing us? After we trusted is lame ass? He shot us in the EYE. What kind of DICK does that? If you're going to do it, at least have the courtesy to put the gun against the head and not the frick'n eye. :eek:
     
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  12. treave Arcane Patron

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    While waiting for a clear winner to emerge, let's have a State of Technology update.

    ***

    Intermission: State of Technology (4026 A.C.)

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    AUGMENTATIONS

    Though augmentations in the form of prosthetics have existed for thousands of years, the field has seen a surge of innovation and popularity in recent years. It is estimated that nearly a quarter of the Earthbound population and more than half of the colonists use augments in one form or another. Despite that, they are seen as an expensive tool for most, and a plaything for the rich. The majority of augmentations are implanted as part of a contract between a worker and a corporation or the government. Most Federation augments are sourced from one of two corporations; the Muramasa Foundation or Great Eastern Heavy Industries.

    Limb Augmentations

    Carbon nanotubes (CNT) are the mainstay of this particular field. Advances have been rapid since the start of the war, with combat frame technology receiving the immediate benefits thanks to the particular breakthroughs made by the Indus scientist Krishnashankar, who has gone missing in the aftermath of the colony drop. The ISC labs are the first to successfully construct pilot suits based off miniaturization of Krishnashankar's concept. Military-grade exo-suit prototypes are currently in testing in various locations all over the world, particularly in Higashi, UNS and Skane. The prototypes tend to achieve ten times human performance, based on the personnel in the exo-suit.

    Most limb augments are mostly artificial muscle polymer with varying percentages of CNT fibres. The force and contractile speed varies accordingly, from peak human to five times human performance. Currently, pure CNT limbs have a minimum baseline of twenty times human performance, but meeting its potential is still an issue as cognitive enhancements have not caught up sufficiently to allow a human to process the strength and speed which a CNT muscle can output. Most augments are controlled by limiters to avoid the users from harming themselves.

    Strength comparisons (estimated):
    Peak human = 350 kg
    Artificial polymer+CNT = 1750 kg
    Pure CNT = 7000 kg
    CF = 87500 kg


    Neural & Sensory Augmentations

    Neural augments generally consist of a disc of cortex-mimicking artificial neurons supplemented with electronic circuitry for easier diagnosis and maintenance, implanted below the cerebellum. They act as a secondary brain of sorts, enhancing memory capacity, motor control and cognitive processing. Users of military-grade limb augmentations require at least a motor control augment to operate at full capacity. There are also neural augments targeted at the hypothalamic region, which are only meant for emotional regulation or pleasure stimulation. Most neural augments come with a wireless connection, allowing the user to be perpetually linked to the internet and navigate virtual space by thought, if that is their wish.

    Sensory augments involve replacing a particular sensory organ – eyes, ears, nose, tongue, and even skin – with an artificial equivalent that has heightened sensitivity and receptivity. They may be equipped with functions not found in their human biological counterparts; radar and electromagnetic spectrum sight, for example, though usually a neural upgrade is required to make full use of those functions.

    Miscellanous Augmentations

    There are also plenty of augmentations that focus on style over function. Vocal cord augments have become popular as of late, allowing users to sing in harmony with themselves, as are small bio-mechanical wings and tails that are functionally useless. Augmentations for merely aesthetic purposes are, however, frowned upon in most of the world, and those who indulge in it are considered hardcore augment addicts. They generally congregate in enclaves, unable to socialize with the unaugmented. The artificial island of Rakuten is the largest such enclave in the world.

    The Digital Divide

    With the advent of dive technology came the ability to immerse oneself into the virtual world. Instead of implanting full-fledged neural prostheses, users could opt to have a wired jack surgically inserted into their cervical vertebrae, allowing them to 'dive' into virtual reality with the appropriate equipment. Holograms only replicate sight and sound, but within a virtual reality the user may experience the full gamut of senses. VR 'communities' began springing up around the more popular sites, transforming the way interaction is conducted online. Though there are still purists who prefer to stick to regular text, video and voice, they are a rare lot.

    The adoption rate for dive technology has been unprecedented in Higashi, and in fact has soared during the war as more and more youth sought for a way to escape their reality. It is estimated that more than 95% of people under 25 have bought and installed a dive implant. Furthermore, it has become popular for parents to save up for a neural augment for their children in order to get a head-start in life; starting from 15 years ago, many children have been implanted with a neural augment – at great cost to the parents – when they reach the age of 5.

    The effect has been to birth an entire generation of youth country-wide that spend almost all of their time living (and working) entirely within virtual worlds, leaving only to perform vital bodily functions.

    ***

    NANOTECHNOLOGY

    Nanotechnology has been a tough field to crack, but the first vital discoveries were made 30 years ago, based on the terraforming effects of Inanna flowers. Researches discovered that the cells of the flowers produced 'natural' nanomachines, performing only specific functions. These were investigated heavily, especially in light of the Apostles' claims to their spiritual potency around twenty years back, but they were never demonstrated to interact in any way with human biology. Researchers also failed to reprogram the natural nanomachines produced by the flowers. Regardless, their study has led to advances in the field of nanotechnology, and full-fledged nanite assemblers are thought to be a reality in the very near future. In recent weeks, UNS scientists have also discovered that the biology of some humans have some similarities to that of the flowers; particularly in terms of an extra organelle which appears to be related to the nanite-producing organelle in Inanna flowers. The initial discovery was publicized widely, but the Federation government soon shut down all news of it before any further details could be known.

    ***

    ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE

    Artificial intelligence is currently a relatively stagnant field. Rudimentary AI with fixed programming is in widespread use all over the world, operating unmanned robots and automated systems. Learning AI is still under development, and has seen deployment in more advanced cities, but the learning algorithms in these AI are slow, requiring a lot of data to learn and adapt. True learning AIs that are almost indistinguishable from humans are probably decades away.

    ***

    EXOTIC TECHNOLOGIES

    There are rumours of nebulous, shady organizations developing some form of exotic power source because limitless fusion and solar just doesn't cut it anymore – Black Hole Engines, Dimension Reactors, Antimatter Annihilation Engines etc – somewhere in an unmarked, unknown military base that no one knows about. Usually the people talking about this throw around terms like degeneracy, quantum, event horizons, paired particle annihilation, quantum, multiverse grids and quantum, claiming that it is being used to power the propulsion and weaponry of some super secret prototype warship or robot.

    They're just rumours, of course.
     
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  13. ScubaV Prophet

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    I've updated my tally:

    Continue - 4 (Zwist, Kipeci, root, Esquilax)
    Reload A1 - 5 (Azira, ScubaV, Tome, Rex Feral (2nd choice since B1 is way behind), Lambchop19 (2nd choice as tiebreaker))
    Reload C - 2 (Smashing Axe, Storyfag)
    Invalid or unspecified choice - 2 (Baltika9, aleam iacis)
     
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  14. Esquilax Arcane

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    I thought that the whole point of these CYOA's was that every choice matters because you don't get to reload, so it makes everything more important. And this:

    is pretty guilt trippy. Sure, I was the loudest in favour of trusting Naim, but I wasn't the first or the only one to do so - lots of people were going with A2 before I had even posted, and it was a tied vote until I broke it. So sure, I'll take the lion's share of the blame for this bad decision, but you're being kinda melodramatic by telling me to "man up", which for some reason should mean that I ought to vote for a reload. There were plenty of choices that I wasn't a fan of in Ean's arc, but I was always willing to roll with the punches.

    But ScubaV has some good arguments on his side and it seems that most people here would prefer a reload, so it'll win.

    Edit: Looks like A1 will be the victor here, as I've said. Also, I just read treave's post: I'd rather take the hit for this bad decision up front than deal with it in some unforeseen ways.
     
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  15. Rex Feral Liturgist

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    Like I said, if B1 has no chance of winning, as Esquilax has decided to continue, I will flop to A1. I suggest those with C do the same. In case they want a reload of course.
     
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  16. treave Arcane Patron

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    Obviously, there will be consequences for reloading. In fact it's a holdover mechanism from the first draft of this particular 'book' where it was possible to reload after every choice, no matter how inconsequential. I'm considering bringing it back in full now that I've figured out how to execute it properly, and the in-universe explanation has always been there from the start. Still need to 'unlock' it, though... perhaps a few more deaths will be convincing enough as an in-universe reason.

    edit: Don't expect all bad ends to have a chance to continue. This one is different because you were resuscitated, albeit not in your original form. You will automatically 'reload' in most of the other ones, as I've said a couple months back.
     
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  17. Rex Feral Liturgist

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    Consequences ?! Like what ?

    -25% XP for 1 week ?
    Even more choices that lead to a bad end ?
    Everyone starts hating our guts ?
     
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  18. treave Arcane Patron

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    You will get points for the bad end meter, as I've said. We'll see what happens as it fills up, if we're lucky enough to get more bad ends.
     
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  19. Rex Feral Liturgist

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    :rage:
     
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  20. Fact is, people listen to you. You reason things out pretty well most times, so most here trust you and are less inclined to flop if you are in favor of something as well. Not trying to guilt trip, bro. Just trying to use a sense of responsibility to wake you up out of the "might as well accept defeat" mentality you seem to get at times like these.
    Whatever the consequences are, it's worth it not to lose to Theseus again. edit: We just have to steer clear of these choices in the future so as not to fill up the bad end meter. Not criticizing me when I say someone is Theseus might be a good start, eh? :smug:

    Also, A1 still doesn't deal with Naim's threat completely. We need to watch him and be alert. He may very well plan to eliminate us as we still pose a threat to Kyrie if we know she's alive. So basically, don't trust his lame ass and slap Baltika9 every time he suggests teaming up with him.
     
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  21. treave Arcane Patron

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    ...

    :lol:

    Bunch of sociopaths indeed.

    Locking in the vote at a reload for A1.
     
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  22. Knew I shouldn't have said that...
    Sociopaths? I just want to kill Naim, find Kyrie, and then stick her head in a jar. What's sociopathic about that? :(
     
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  23. Smashing Axe Arcane Patron

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    It's a moot point now, but I'm curious why you no-Cers went with A1 over B1? What advantage do we gain by telling Naim we already know Kyrie is still alive?
     
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  24. treave Arcane Patron

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    Oh, no, the sentiment of not wanting to lose, regardless of what it might cost others, is what I was calling sociopathic.
     
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  25. *sigh* treave, don't take my simplification as my only reason for the reload. This is an interweb forum and sometimes we don't give the whole reason of why we're voting for something. Esp. when we're distracted by work as I have been lately. Sure, it's a big deal not to let the whole Theseus thing happen again, but I also considered several other factors, chief among them that it loses us time. Time to find a way to save Kyrie, time to learn about our powers so we can do it, time to find out what Shulgi is really up to so we don't rush in blindly and end up ruining his/the master who's controlling him's plan destroy/save the world. Last time we were all about our own glory and cocked it up for Kyrie - and for the rest of the human race...or saved it depending on who's side Shulgi is really on.

    Also, there's the whole not wanting to be shot in the eye by a ponce and brought back as Gunther Herman's long lost asain half-brother. Guess that's pretty selfish though. :M

    edit: although can I take your suggestion to mean that our every death and rebirth somehow harms or kills someone else? TNO style?
     
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