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[LP CYOA] Epic

Discussion in 'Choose Your Own Adventure Land' started by treave, Jun 23, 2012.

  1. Storyfag Perfidious Pole Patron

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    You should know by now that I'm still rooting for Dio, and the Masters are his descendants :troll:
     
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  2. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Ean was free from the Masters ever since Crete, which is why Zeus couldn't disable our powers and the Naram-Master/YHWH couldn't mind-controll us like Athena and Artemis.

    It seems to me that Ean can extend his ability on our whole reality. And if he can do that, then can also probably shield other immortals from Master influence. That, however, is speculation. Anyway, infiltration isn't a suicide: we have six months to prep The Normandy a supermobile BHE powered carrier ship with CFs that Senya and Rei can plug into. We will make it through, it's the other side where shit will start going down.
     
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  3. Esquilax Arcane

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    The way I figure it, a Trojan Horse ploy would involve using wormholes to sneak the bomb into the Master's dimension, so 2D. This would mean BDA: We let our forces abandon us, allowing them to distract the 200,000 Star League ships attacking Empire space while we forge our bomb from another nearby star. Being outnumbered would give us a believable pretext for surrendering on account of being greatly outnumbered by the Star League. The problem in this case won't be sneaking in the bomb itself, it'll be that all those trips using wormholes to create our bomb will attract the Master's notice, as treave said.

    Nevertheless, I see this as the only possible way that we can use bombs while surrendering. If we try to do anything within our own galaxy, the Star League will know. As much as I like Lambchop19's suggestion on paper, how will we remove the Sun from our own galaxy to use as a weapon, then surrender without the League being aware once we go through the gateway? I just don't see how we can use a bomb from our backyard without them figuring out that something is amiss. I'm not saying that using wormhole tech to use a starbomb from elsewhere doesn't have its problems, but we're sure to be found out if we try to surrender while trying to create a bomb in our backyard.

    Other strategies I see as viable (feel free to correct me) are as follows:

    Full-on War (ACB)

    Here we dedicate ourselves to kicking the Star League's ass completely within six months - hard as hell, but doable. We would recoup all of our forces, then utilize our Master-proof tech as a means to defeat the Star League despite the Masters trying to rig the odds. This is a time-intensive task and I don't think we'll have the time to create a bomb and beat the League within the given time frame; I think we can only pick one option here. So either you commit to bombing the Master's dimension, or you commit to beating them at war.

    Actually, war won't work. The system is designed for the Star League to win every single time, and I don't see how we're special in any way. The fact that Marduk sought an alternative gateway instead of opting to fight the Star League in direct combat speaks volumes here.

    And honestly, I've got plenty of misgivings about nuking the Masters - we don't know what sort of consequences collapsing the center of the universe will entail, nor are we sure about what sort of contingencies they have in store for something like this. I just don't see this problem is quite so easy to solve. However, I'd like to hear from Azira on how we can make AAB work. He seems to really want to nuke shit. :lol:

    Mission: Impossible (BCC)

    This is Baltika9's proposal. While we use the dissenting forces within the Empire's forces to distract the Star League and the Masters, we put together the greatest team of bros ever assembled to sneak through the Master's dimension in a Shepardian suicide mission. The problem is that unlike the Marduk we faced here, the Masters we encounter will be at full strength, and that's if we're lucky enough make it past the planet-busting turrets.

    The upside is that making our way through the turrets with a small force is far more likely than it is with a big one. Also, here the time limit will work in our favour, allowing us to create one hell of a fucking CF. Other than that, the technology and personnel we have are relatively immune to fuckery/tampering from the Masters, but that doesn't mean we still can't get the shit kicked out of us in a million other ways.

    Basically, there's no easy way out here - every plan we put together is going to have drawbacks, it's just a question of which has the least.
     
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  4. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Don't be such a drama queen.

    Anyway, two reasons why I don't want to use our Sun as a nuke: one, it will fuck up our planet without a source of heat and light, and there's no guarantee we'll be able to fix it; and two, I want to see Shulgi in the final epilogue, years later, in a free universe, chilling with Senya and Ean in a bar; he does still owe us a drink.
     
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  5. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Wait, wait.
    What? Could someone please explain this one?
     
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  6. ScubaV Prophet

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    I don't always agree with Baltika, but when I do... Bros: Courageous Champions
     
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  7. Esquilax Arcane

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    Aw fuck, it just occurred to me that if we stayed as Marduk's hostage we could possibly have figured out the method Marduk would use to create an alternate gateway into the Master's dimension. Hard to say what sort of information we would have recovered from him, but if it was this, then... ouch.
     
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  8. treave Arcane Patron

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    High risks, high rewards.

    As for the superweapon, building it doesn't mean you absolutely have to use it. For example, the threat of mutually assured destruction could delay the Masters from trying a universal reset long enough for you to send your entire fleet through the gateway.

    Or you guys could just use Jupiter instead.
     
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  9. Esquilax Arcane

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    Could we use Jupiter as a bomb to clear a path past the turrets for ourselves? If we destroy enough turrets in our way, there might not be anything between our forces and the Masters. A blast with the radius of a galaxy won't be enough to kill off the Masters, but it should be enough to at least make the way safe.

    That being said, it also makes the way safe for the Star League. So if we manage to go through the gateway, we can expect them to be hot on our heels.
     
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  10. treave Arcane Patron

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    Ah, the turrets are in this galaxy. Detonating any of the bombs here would be unwise. You could probably scale down Jupiter until it only wipes out the core instead of the entire galaxy, but either way that means the gateway will be sucked into a black hole. I'm not sure whether that counts as defeating the Masters for the purpose of the pact. They'd probably start the universal reset too.

    As it is, the only assured, safe way to get past the defense systems and through the gate is to surrender or draw the League out for a final confrontation and beat them down ship to ship.
     
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  11. Esquilax Arcane

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    But if we start beating down the Star League in a final confrontation despite the best efforts of any Master fuckery, won't they simply start the universal reset once they see that their team is losing anyways? I'm not seeing how we can win a war here. Even if by some miracle we're winning despite Master intervention, they can still reset everything and we're fucked.

    Playing as Naram would have been a whole lot easier. :lol:
     
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  12. treave Arcane Patron

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    The reason they wanted to stop the Emperor at all costs was because they knew he would eat them if he came through. They're not so sure about your motives for now. Don't forget that one of them said that your existence will change things for them. They could be extremely interested in talking should you prove yourself worthy by winning their game, for example.

    It's not that they want to rig things in favour of the League, it's that they just don't want the Devourer to win.
     
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  13. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Hmm, then we can flood their Q&A session with white zombies and shut the portal?
     
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  14. treave Arcane Patron

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    You can't summon them on demand. Besides, that necessitates getting through the portal in the first place.
     
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  15. Baltika9 Arcane

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    'K, how confident does Senya feel in slipping past the turret defenses by himself in 3C?

    I'm of course assuming that we're getting a completely pimped-out ride.

    And, uh, any chance we can fish out Shulgi out of the Sun?
     
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  16. Kipeci Magister

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    Does anyone recall what this is referring to?

    Anyway, I'm thinking I'll go with BCC.
     
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  17. treave Arcane Patron

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    Fairly confident. But going in without an army as backup he's not too keen. If nothing they could be distractions and meatshields. He prefers to stack the odds in his favour as much as possible if he's picking the time to attack. As for the second question, no.
     
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  18. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Right, going with ACC then, I really feel like it's the better combination. Senya likes to stack his odds, yeah, but like I said earlier, despite his intelligence, we always sent him into all or nothing situations. He'll be fine. If worst comes to worst, Ean can always give us a pep-talk. Or Kyrie, a ghost kiss. Both?

    As for why 1A, since the Empire will have it's strongest leaders absent, the rest of the forces have better be organized and cohesive. Letting this mutiny slide and taking away their leadership will just open the door for more of this shit to happen and then the League will eat them alive, diminishing the effectiveness of the diversion. I'd rather we not come back to a League-dominated reality. So, how 'bout it?

    As for restarting this universe: bros, we did so much retardedly suicidal shit for this planet and this cycle of creation, that we owe it to ourselves to see it survive and prosper.
     
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  19. treave Arcane Patron

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    If you are worried about the League gaining the upper hand, why not consider defeating them before you enter the portal? Having your cake and eating it too isn't exactly a running theme here.

    Ah yes, regarding the surrender option, it would work together with the bombs because you quickly spread misinformation that the Dragon Emperor devoured the sun. Or Jupiter. They're only going to allow you one ship to tag along, and no one in their right mind would imagine that you shrunk your own sun into a bomb and planted it on the asteroid battleship the Sword of Ean. Then you troll them at the gateway. Of course you can do this without the bombs anyway.

    And as for the stealthy option... well, it's a sneaking mission, at least right until you enter the gate. I'll say that it's the quickest way to engage in dialogue with the Masters, however, so that should be interesting. More exposition always helps you to make an informed decision.
     
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  20. Baltika9 Arcane

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    All I want the Empire to do is stall. If we return victors from the Masters' reality, I'm sure ee'll have, ah, interedting ways to deal with the League. (WHERE ARE YOUR GODS NOW!?)
    Aww shee-it.
     
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  21. Lambchop19 Arcane Zionist Agent Literally Hitler Batshit Crazy

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    CCers need to stop being retarded. Just how is our small group supposed to defeat a race of beings who literally hold all the cards of fate? Magic? Will power? What if the animu laws of our current universe don't apply in the master's dimension?

    I really don't want this LP to end with "rocks fall; everyone dies", thank you.
    QFT
    So, we can talk to the Masters before destroying them then? Good. That's all I need to know to keep my vote at BAA.
     
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  22. treave Arcane Patron

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    Not if you don't go through the gate. Then again, sending just your bomb in first without a scout or escort is begging for something hilarious to happen.

    ...You guys didn't think it'd be that easy, did you? Just toss it through the portal and go home?
     
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  23. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Wham, bam, thank you ma'am. No, of course not. And we may not even escape in time.

    Say, can we make a set of power armor for Ean and/or the Dunamis, or would it just be redundant with his style and abilities?

    By the way, how are the Dunamis reacting to his return? Physically and personally?
    Any lulz?
     
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  24. treave Arcane Patron

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    On the other hand, waltzing into the gate without something that can really threaten them to stay their hand seems woefully underprepared and just asking to be captured. Surely you're not going in expecting to have a giant robot battle between your team and the Masters?

    I mean, that'd be like

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    ...

    Hm...

    I suppose...

    Yeah.
     
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  25. treave Arcane Patron

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    I don't actually think the Masters would want to get into a robot deathmatch with Senya. But who knows what sorcery is afoot? Surely they have something hidden away that was used to hunt down and destroy the giant spheres all those millions of years ago...

    DIOBOT.
     
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