Obsidian's Pillars of Eternity [BETA RELEASED, GO TO THE NEW THREAD]

[Crooked Bee]

3) Have they clarified at all what pushing the soul awesome button will do? Is it going to be like the Arcanum fate points or something more AWSOUME?

Er... what soul button?

 

[oldmanpaco]

I have some questions and I haven't been following to closely over the last week and I am too lazy to read the previous 80 pages to see if they have been answered.

1) Have they talked about death and resurrection?
2) Have they talked about what stats will be in the game (STR,DEX, ect.)? And have they named a stat range like FO (1-10), IE (3-18), or DA (10 - 786).
3) Have they clarified at all what pushing the soul awesome button will do? Is it going to be like the Arcanum fate points or something more AWSOUME?
4) Have they talked about feats/perks?
5) Have they talked about background traits?

AFAIK, there is no so soul awesome button. The soul stuff is just lore and an explanation for your characters' heroic powers.

The answer to all of your other questions is "No".

thttpd

edit: all the talk about souls allowing ordinary people to do spectacular things makes me feel like there will be a soul button. Just saying.

 

[Vault Dweller]

I have some questions and I haven't been following to closely over the last week and I am too lazy to read the previous 80 pages to see if they have been answered.

1) Have they talked about death and resurrection?
2) Have they talked about what stats will be in the game (STR,DEX, ect.)? And have they named a stat range like FO (1-10), IE (3-18), or DA (10 - 786).
3) Have they clarified at all what pushing the soul awesome button will do? Is it going to be like the Arcanum fate points or something more AWSOUME?
4) Have they talked about feats/perks?
5) Have they talked about background traits?

AFAIK, there is no so soul awesome button.

The modders will fix it.

 

[wormix]

edit: all the talk about souls allowing ordinary people to do spectacular things makes me feel like there will be a soul button. Just saying.

From the way I look at it, that's just handwaving the way the characters get extremely powerful very quickly. In addition to the usual flavour/story/lore reasons.

 

[Infinitron]

I have some questions and I haven't been following to closely over the last week and I am too lazy to read the previous 80 pages to see if they have been answered.

1) Have they talked about death and resurrection?
2) Have they talked about what stats will be in the game (STR,DEX, ect.)? And have they named a stat range like FO (1-10), IE (3-18), or DA (10 - 786).
3) Have they clarified at all what pushing the soul awesome button will do? Is it going to be like the Arcanum fate points or something more AWSOUME?
4) Have they talked about feats/perks?
5) Have they talked about background traits?

AFAIK, there is no so soul awesome button.

The EternityNexus modders will ruin it.

Fixed

 

[villain of the story]

Me neither, but they haven't tallied anything from Paypal into the grand total yet for anything so...

It most likely means that the KS+PP total haven't hit the next streatch goal as of yet.

 

[Jaesun]

I have some questions and I haven't been following to closely over the last week and I am too lazy to read the previous 80 pages to see if they have been answered.

1) Have they talked about death and resurrection?
2) Have they talked about what stats will be in the game (STR,DEX, ect.)? And have they named a stat range like FO (1-10), IE (3-18), or DA (10 - 786).
3) Have they clarified at all what pushing the soul awesome button will do? Is it going to be like the Arcanum fate points or something more AWSOUME?
4) Have they talked about feats/perks?
5) Have they talked about background traits?

AFAIK, there is no so soul awesome button.

The Lovers Lab modders will incline it.

Fixed.

 

[oldmanpaco]

I have some questions and I haven't been following to closely over the last week and I am too lazy to read the previous 80 pages to see if they have been answered.

1) Have they talked about death and resurrection?
2) Have they talked about what stats will be in the game (STR,DEX, ect.)? And have they named a stat range like FO (1-10), IE (3-18), or DA (10 - 786).
3) Have they clarified at all what pushing the soul awesome button will do? Is it going to be like the Arcanum fate points or something more AWSOUME?
4) Have they talked about feats/perks?
5) Have they talked about background traits?

AFAIK, there is no so soul awesome button.

The EternityNexus modders will ruin it.

Fixed

How long before the first nude patch?

 

[Jaesun]

Adding boobs and penis to the smaller 3D models should not take them much time at all.

 

[wormix]

How long before the first nude patch?

Stretch goal?

 

[DalekFlay]

I for one am intrigued and looking forward to messing with such a system. Seems like it will add a lot of strategy to the spell selection process during battle, which is really the heart of what we are aiming for right? As opposed to waiting for the cooldown button to clear?

I have faith.

 

[Alex]

This certainly sounds much better, but I still think it will restrict a lot what kind of spells we have in game. First, it makes utilitarian spells like Talk to the Dead or Mount have no drawbacks. As long as your are able to cast them unlimitedly, you can just put them in a grimoire and use them out of combat, waiting for your grimoire to recharge before continuing on. What I mean is that I am afraid that this kind of spell will all be moved to very high levels or be left to some other type of mechanic. Combat spells with more quirky mechanics are probably going to be limited as well. Like, say, chromatic sphere would probably never fit this system.

 

[IronicNeurotic]

I have some questions and I haven't been following to closely over the last week and I am too lazy to read the previous 80 pages to see if they have been answered.

1) Have they talked about death and resurrection?
2) Have they talked about what stats will be in the game (STR,DEX, ect.)? And have they named a stat range like FO (1-10), IE (3-18), or DA (10 - 786).
3) Have they clarified at all what pushing the soul awesome button will do? Is it going to be like the Arcanum fate points or something more AWSOUME?
4) Have they talked about feats/perks?
5) Have they talked about background traits?

AFAIK, there is no so soul awesome button.

The EternityNexus modders will ruin it.

Fixed

How long before the first nude patch?

This Game is going to be Button awethreesome

 

[Infinitron]

http://forums.somethingawful.com/sh...=3506352&userid=17931&perpage=40&pagenumber=4

 

[villain of the story]

This really just proves they can't win though. If AoO & flanking aren't in, it's 'lack of tactical depth'. If they are it's 'clusterfuck combat'.
If you can't create your own party it's 'storyfag party mode'. If you can it's 'drone npc followers'.

I doubt anyone at all would complain about additional combat options as "clusterfuck combat". And if we could create a party at the very beginning or near beginning, it wouldn't feel "drone NPC followers". Anyway, we will have to see how they will do it. If custom characters at Adventurer's Hall require a considerable amount of currency to create (think of JA2) and maybe even upkeep costs or other things, I will be happy. The idea of free characters you can get midgame feels just cheap.

It would be great if your custom adventurer came with a few personality traits rolled at the time of conception.

 

[x4nti]

This is how I interpreted these updates. There will be three classes of spells modelled on the way abilities are divided in 4E (At-will, Encounter and Daily). Their tweak is
1) to make encounter abilities (that would in 4E only be usable once per encounter) limited by cooldown which replenishes inside the encounter
2) to make Encounters and Dailys eventually become At-wills.

I think both of these tweaks are bad. Let me explain why. In 4E At-wills are very limited in what they can do, they're generally just a damage spell with possible some small AoE. Encounter abilities have on the average a more profound effect. They can possibly have status- and/or environment changes in addition to doing damage. Dailys have the most extreme effect and could on occasions turn the tide of a battle completely (e.g. Sleep). I would argue that these are different categories of abilities and you shouldn't be able spam the highly powerful daily as it would be a ray of frost.

That "encounter abilities" will refresh inside the battle is just a munchkins wet dream. It's so obviously exploitable with the kite and nuke strategy.

(This is just in comparison to 4E. I mean compared to earlier d&d there are other things to criticize, like the fact that spells are gimped.)

 

[wormix]

wormix Already posted a page ago.

Shit I must be blind, I double checked before posting too.

 

[villain of the story]

This whole cool down bullshit could be peacefully resolved through casting times. The problem with cool downs is that you use spell or ability and then immediately switch to another while that you can use while the former cools down. Instead, make it so that the cool down period corresponds to casting time. It will also be more tactical because your mage could be interrupted while casting. And maybe increase the casting time of a spell by a small margin when you spam it so you either need to alternate between casting different spells or wait a while before spamming. Is this not a good incentive against spamming?

And how is this not a cool-down? Because it doesn't downgrade spell casting to a gamist system and it is more interesting.

Likewise with switching Grimoires. Since Grimoires are a big deal, it should take some sort of time-taking ritual, invocation, something, to switch from one to another. Except this time, there is the danger of being interrupted. There again, cool down problem solved in a far better tactical way.

And isn't this how this stuff was dealt with in IE games anyway? IWD series introduced a combat-casting feat simply for this purpose, to define a more combat oriented spell caster role. They are trying to reinvent the fucking wheel using the shittiest substitutes.

 

[piydek]

all the talk about souls allowing ordinary people to do spectacular things makes me feel like there will be a soul button. Just saying.

Dude, it's not a gameplay mechanic thing, it's lore...the way to explain magic, how it works, perhaps even its very existence. I know we're all traumatized by Dragon ages and years of various forms of decline, but relax a bit.

Anyway, i really like how this all is turning out. If they manage to put it all together well and if they manage to achieve the hardest - the gameplay to feel right - I'm quite confident this game is going to kick ass. From what they haven't talked about / shown, I just hope for nice, well-rounded and distinct art in game.

 

[Arkadin]

http://forums.somethingawful.com/sh...=3506352&userid=17931&perpage=40&pagenumber=4

This has me a little more intrigued. The grimoires sound like they could be interesting items in the gameworld. Hopefully they adjust for pace -- or the difficulty levels account for it -- so that switching between them in battle is quite dangerous, if they're going to allow it. They should completely incapacitate the spellcaster while he's changing grimoires. Could make for some fun risk/reward.

 

[Roguey]

ITT: A few babies QQ over Sawyer and Cain trying to emulate the at-will/encounters/dailies spell-casting system of 4e D&D. Just as I thought they would. Sounds fun. M:

Today I found out some of the idiots itt don't understand what a "daily" is.

Also yes souls give combat classes superpowers.

Though it may not look like it to see them in battle next to wizards and priests, fighters are just as able to tap into the power of their souls to devastating effect: accelerating their attacks to a superhuman speed, striking foes with such power that nearby opponents are knocked off their feet, and maintaining a phenomenal endurance that allows them to rapidly bounce back from even terrible wounds.
...
their affinity for skullduggery allows some talented rogues to tap into their souls to perform amazing stunts: fading from view in plain sight, briefly cloaking their allies in a veil of shadow, imbuing their weapons with a soul-eating venom, or even becoming so insubstantial that blades barely hurt them.

 

[Infinitron]

http://forums.somethingawful.com/sh...rid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=178#post408259824

 

[Infinitron]

Gyshall posted:

I'm so glad rope kid is in charge of this game and not the guys in this thread, jesus christ.​

What, you don't want to play the completely innovative title with reverse-levelling, no inventory or equipment system, 100% equal LGBT representation, featuring pale frail fighters going toe to toe with eight foot tall musclewizards this thread has been debating about for the last 50 or so pages?

 

[Ion Prothon II]

Also yes souls give combat classes superpowers.

Though it may not look like it to see them in battle next to wizards and priests, fighters are just as able to tap into the power of their souls to devastating effect: accelerating their attacks to a superhuman speed, striking foes with such power that nearby opponents are knocked off their feet, and maintaining a phenomenal endurance that allows them to rapidly bounce back from even terrible wounds.
...
their affinity for skullduggery allows some talented rogues to tap into their souls to perform amazing stunts: fading from view in plain sight, briefly cloaking their allies in a veil of shadow, imbuing their weapons with a soul-eating venom, or even becoming so insubstantial that blades barely hurt them.

Somehow it made me think of DA2, gigantic swords and other jrpgish stuff.

PE is gonna be awesome.

 

[TwinkieGorilla]

WHY DO YOU KEEP FUCKING TAGGING ME, INFINITRON.