Obsidian's Pillars of Eternity [BETA RELEASED, GO TO THE NEW THREAD]

[Lord Andre]

If mages get infinite magic missle, I want infinite hold person for my cleric. If Josh confirms that, all is forgiven.

 

[Zed]

If this game has a spell called 'Zap' I'm going to kill someone.

I'd love it. It should be a melee range spell, deal zero to very little damage, and have the caster say "zap!" in a super gay voice. Like, "shhaap!"

 

[x4nti]

http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/61129-reddit-qa-part-2-with-tim-cain/

... we are looking into the idea that wizards are only limited in the number of times they can cast their higher-level combat spells in a fight, and other spell are castable as many times as you want. As the wizard levels up, spells that previously had a limit can now be cast an unlimited number of times, and the newly acquired spells are the ones with a limit.

When you cast a certain number of ... spells, in any combination, then the whole spell level group goes into a cooldown, and you can't use any of them until that cooldown has passed. That cooldown is long enough that for short battles, you are limited to casting a certain number of spells for each spell level. For long battles, that cooldown might expire and you can start casting those spells again.

This is the most solid we have. In it there is no description of abilities that are only usable a finite number of times in an encounter but refresh after the encounter, i.e. a non-daily.

 

[ravenshrike]

If this game has a spell called 'Zap' I'm going to kill someone.

Hey, Zap was an awesome spell. In Grandia II.

 

[suejak]

Ok, let's call them "catnaps". Bam! Vancian system!

I brofisted you then I had to unbrofist you.

Catnaps?

Yeah! Sleepin it up! Vancian-style, baby.

 

[TwinkieGorilla]

Catnaps?

Yeah, it's when a cat takes a nap. Cats sleep a lot. Without looking it up, I think it's like 12-16 hours every day. But when they sleep it's not like, you know, 12-16 hours in a row...they take lots of little naps. And it's pretty cool because they have this weird awareness, like they're always sleeping with one eye open or something. But yeah, catnaps. Now you know!

 

[Jaesun]

If this game has a spell called 'Zap' I'm going to kill someone.

I'd love it. It should be a melee range spell, deal zero to very little damage, and have the caster say "zap!" in a super gay voice. Like, "shhaap!"

Actually it should sound like "THAP"! That would be Fabulous.

 

[wormix]

Has anyone brought up casting lower level spells with higher level slots? I'm not sure how people feel about it, but I never got why you couldn't 'use up' a fireball slot and cast magic missile instead if you really wanted to.

Sometimes I took the meta magic feats in NWN2 just to have the option to do this even when I didn't care about the metamagic effect.

As for cooldowns, the problem I see is combat devolving into cycling through all your low level spells mindlessly when you reach higher level in order to get them to cooldown quicker.

 

[Alex]

If this game has a spell called 'Zap' I'm going to kill someone.

Sir, I will have you know that Zap is a perfectly fine name for a spell, as evidenced by this image:

Heck, if all we got in this game were the spells in Sorcery!, I would probably be happy already! I wonder if we should suggest actual memorization as a means for spell casting. You have to read the spellbook manual and type the spell names during the game, and consulting it during the game would be cheating, of course. By the way Hot is also a valid spell name:

 

[oldmanpaco]

This is the only spell that should start with the letter Z:

 

[wormix]

The difference in spell names like "Zap" and "Jacob's Electrifying Finger" is really a stylistic choice, rather than one being fundamentally better than the other.

 

[TwinkieGorilla]

Heh. That guy in the bottom right is having a bad day.

 

[oldmanpaco]

The difference in spell names like "Zap" and "Jacob's Electrifying Finger" is really a stylistic choice, rather than one being fundamentally better than the other.

Really? 'Zap' is equal to 'Jacob's Electrifying Finger'. Good to know.

Presentation people. Presentation matters.

 

[oldmanpaco]

Heh. That guy in the bottom right is having a bad day.

Naw. He is just the first to make it down.

 

[[UD]liam]

If this game has a spell called 'Zap' I'm going to kill someone.

 

[Alex]

This is the only spell that should start with the letter Z:

I actually thought I would find a lot of z[something]'s [some spell name] kind of spells in the spell compendium, but it seems Zala is the only one there. She has more spells, but it kind of breaks my point.

 

[potatojohn]

I will NEVER played a game with cooldowns. Fuck that shit.

 

[Captain Shrek]

Have you been reading this thread at all?

1. Not really since yesterday and even till then things relevant to mechanics.
2. I am only possibly retarded.n

 

[DalekFlay]

I would love to see you guys transported back in time and sitting in the Baldur's Gate development offices, reporting everything on here as you hear it. It would end up being known as the worst game of all time.

 

[suejak]

I will NEVER played a game with cooldowns. Fuck that shit.

This game doesn't even HAVE cooldowns, man. Chill out. It has catnaps, it's Vancian.

 

[groke]

Ok, rests are in, pledged again! (LOLOLOLOLOLOL)
Should have just watched the video.

 

[Grunker]

I will NEVER played

fascinating

 

[J_C]

"Except after doing that, that tier of spells are locked out."

For 30 seconds. You shouldn't be able to cast 3 fireballs wait 30 seconds and thenc ast 3 more fireballs. It's fukkin' retarted if you want people to think about long term use of spells ala DnD.

Fast Forward to 15:07

 

[Volourn]

I'm not watching an ugly dude yakking away ( I do that enough of that when looking into mirrors). I go by hardcoded written shit on forums. Their officially written updates and their post spamming on various baords is enough evidence that their planned system is not better than a vanican system or even a mana system (which i fukkin' don't care for) or a oooldown system which can surf a purpose. They're trying tog et the best of all 3 worlds and are probably gonna end up with the worst of all 3 and shit the bed lol.

Thank Moradin for the existence of dwarfs!

 

[Volrath]

Are you trying to explain things to volly?

Come on bro, you're smarter than that.