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Other examples supposedly include Skyrim, where siding with the Nord nationalists was the "evil" choice, but since i never played the game, i wouldn't know that.

Or maybe your own preconceptions colour your impressions, because that was not what I saw in the game at all.

EDIT: LS vs the Race Traitors, hehe
 

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Josh Sawyer certainly is.

I mean in their games. I don't recall many instances where you were beaten in the head with politics, not in the way the Witcher did, or the way Biowhore tried to do with their whole homo-faggot shtick (that went down well, did it). Certain nods to political correctness are so ingrained now (like putting women in typical "masculine" roles) that you can just expect them as a matter of course, that doesn't mean one is trying to be overtly political or ideological.
 

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Apart from the fact that what you say is highly questionable, I wouldn't compare The Witcher's writing with the work of Obsidian. Way too different.

If you mean that the writing in the Witcher was much shittier, then yes, they are "different".
 

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But i bet the "colonists" (humans) are going to be evil and racist, while the colonized (non-humans) are going to be noble and pure. Mind you though, there's not going to be any politics in this game, no sir. :troll:
Vailians - Most Vailians come from the Vailian Republics, a federation of independent city-states made up of former colonies from the Grand Empire of Vailia. They are a powerful mercantile force in the southern hemisphere, trading with more partners than any other nation or empire. Five cities are considered "grand" republics and have greater voting power in their electoral council: Spirento, Ancenze, Selona, Ozia, and Revua. The federation is widely known for its access to most major commodities in the world, including slaves, and for its habit of impressing (abducting) foreigners into service on their naval vessels. Ethnic Vailians (humans and a small number of dwarves) have dark brown skin and tightly spiraled, dark brown hair. They most commonly have brown or black eyes, but occasionally have green, hazel, or grey eyes. Vailians pride themselves on their well-made and intricately-decorated clothing, often made with rare materials and dyes to which they have easy access.
Black dwarf slavers, what will they think of next?

Josh Sawyer certainly is.

I mean in their games. I don't recall many instances where you were beaten in the head with politics, not in the way the Witcher did, or the way Biowhore tried to do with their whole homo-faggot shtick (that went down well, did it). Certain nods to political correctness are so ingrained now (like putting women in typical "masculine" roles) that you can just expect them as a matter of course, that doesn't mean one is trying to be overtly political or ideological.
Did you play New Vegas? It was all about choosing your Political Ideology.
 

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Josh Sawyer certainly is.

I mean in their games. I don't recall many instances where you were beaten in the head with politics, not in the way the Witcher did, or the way Biowhore tried to do with their whole homo-faggot shtick (that went down well, did it). Certain nods to political correctness are so ingrained now (like putting women in typical "masculine" roles) that you can just expect them as a matter of course, that doesn't mean one is trying to be overtly political or ideological.
Is including homosexual companions an intrusive political commentary?
 

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I mean in their games.

Yes, "in their games". Whole New Vegas was based around politics, power play and equilibrium between factions and unaligned communities, all having a valid agenda. That's what Sawyer's interested in, in-game politics, and that's what he does best.
 

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Josh Sawyer certainly is.

I mean in their games. I don't recall many instances where you were beaten in the head with politics, not in the way the Witcher did, or the way Biowhore tried to do with their whole homo-faggot shtick (that went down well, did it). Certain nods to political correctness are so ingrained now (like putting women in typical "masculine" roles) that you can just expect them as a matter of course, that doesn't mean one is trying to be overtly political or ideological.
Is including homosexual companions an intrusive political commentary?

Obviously. What else?
 

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Josh Sawyer certainly is.

I mean in their games. I don't recall many instances where you were beaten in the head with politics, not in the way the Witcher did, or the way Biowhore tried to do with their whole homo-faggot shtick (that went down well, did it). Certain nods to political correctness are so ingrained now (like putting women in typical "masculine" roles) that you can just expect them as a matter of course, that doesn't mean one is trying to be overtly political or ideological.
Is including homosexual companions an intrusive political commentary?

Obviously. What else?
Acknowledgment of reality?
 

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Fallout: New Vegas was a fuckin homo-liberal fag bible with nipple tassels then :mhd:
 

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Don't tell LS about Arcade and Veronica. Or Cherchez la Femme or Confirmed Bachelor.
 

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Did you play New Vegas? It was all about choosing your Political Ideology.

No, i didn't play New Vegas. That's besides the point though, because what we are talking about here is the developer's own political preference seeping into the game, not whether the game was "political", in a general sense.
 

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I'm not sure we should be enlightening Lyric Suite about the nature of Obsidian's politics. Let him remain blissfully ignorant.
 

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Definitely mined gold nuggets out of another dude's anus in Fallout 2.
 

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Did you play New Vegas? It was all about choosing your Political Ideology.

No, i didn't play New Vegas. That's besides the point though, because what we are talking about here is the developer's own political preference seeping into the game, not whether the game was "political", in a general sense.
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The lead designer/project director of Eternity. :smug:
 

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That's besides the point though, because what we are talking about here is the developer's own political preference seeping into the game, not whether the game was "political", in a general sense.

Everyone knows what you mean (you're not exactly unpredictable, you know :lol:). Unfortunately not everyone's willing to follow you up on your delusions...
And shame on you for not seeing the difference between Bioware ("in your face" marketing ideology) and Obsidian, whose New Vegas you didn't play. Too bad it's the best possible point of comparison to this project.
 

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Josh Sawyer certainly is.

I mean in their games. I don't recall many instances where you were beaten in the head with politics, not in the way the Witcher did, or the way Biowhore tried to do with their whole homo-faggot shtick (that went down well, did it). Certain nods to political correctness are so ingrained now (like putting women in typical "masculine" roles) that you can just expect them as a matter of course, that doesn't mean one is trying to be overtly political or ideological.
Is including homosexual companions an intrusive political commentary?

Obviously. What else?
Acknowledgment of reality?

By your argument, why not also include pedophile companions as well? Or companions suffering from cerebral palsy? Hey, its reality.
 

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Companion suffering from cerebral palsy would be AWESOME.
 

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