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Obsidian's Pillars of Eternity [BETA RELEASED, GO TO THE NEW THREAD]

Captain Shrek

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Is there something I am not getting right?
The fact that you're one leg into plane of insanity to name one

On a more a serious note - what applause? People flock around Sawyer picking on his body at every hint of change from IE roots.
Who really pledged to Obsidian expecting a great combat mechanics?
And why stamina instantly turns RTwP into dirty rogue for you?
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*sigh* Stamina does not.

It is regen stamina + cooldowns + DPS + DAO/MMO like mechanics from the last description we got. I thought that was already enough. I have NO doubt that this will be a good game. I just want it to be a great game.
 

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Even if it will turn out something akin to DA:O mechanically, it will be a DA:O with characters from MCA, without boring 3D brownish landscapes and with high variety of monsters. Seems like a start for a great game.
 

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I find that originality and a sense of mystery are instrumental in elevating a cRPG to true greatness. I realize PS:T catches some flak around the Codex because it's an oft-referred-to darling of the unwashed masses, but even so, few would question its originality and sense of mystery—in terms of TNO's true nature, the relationships with his various companions and acquaintances (and enemies), and the interesting way in which the already fairly exotic Planescape multiverse is utilized. The first-time player had no idea what to expect from any location or character, even if they happened to be familiar with the Planescape campaign setting prior to 1999. Of course, it's vital that the mysteries are enjoyable to uncover, which is where good writing and characterization come in.

Direct sequels are hard-put to achieve the same sense of originality and mystery as their predecessors. So are games utilizing generic fantasy tropes, standard fantasy races, main character(s) without unique background stories, and so on. Project Eternity fails somewhat in the "setting originality" department, appearing (to me) to be rather generic with a few twists and dabs of paint to pretend that it's not, but hopefully that won't hold it back too much.

Give me originality, mystery, good writing and characterization, choice and consequences, and satisfying/meaty/challenging combat/ancillary game mechanics, and I'll open my wallet. Unless the game's not story-based at all, which is fine, but if it isn't it's probably something other than a cRPG.
 

almondblight

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Regeneration doesn't bother me. ADOM had it and was still difficult. Starfarer has it, and even has something similar to health/stamina with it's hard/soft flux (which is fun to juggle), or flux/hull damage. Dropping your shields to vent your hard flux only to have an enemies ship's weapons come back online is a great moment. People need to stop confusing bad implementation with bad mechanics.
 

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Deus Ex for god's sake takes the weather-beaten path of conspiracy theories and does it well.
Wow, what are the other conspiracy theory-themed crpgs?? I loved that setting, and the only similar setting I've ever played in is Floor 13...
 

almondblight

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Wow, what are the other conspiracy theory-themed crpgs?? I loved that setting, and the only similar setting I've ever played in is Floor 13...

Omega Syndrome is an alien invasion conspiracy RPG from what I've heard.
 

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Find out yourself. I am not here to supplement you knowledge. If you doubt what I am saying fine. I am a liar.

Hang on, you're not even willing to name a few games in order to back up your opinion when someone challenges it? That's silly. You could have named a few in the time it took you to write that post.

I can confidently opine that there are far fewer games based on cyberpunk/dystopian future/conspiracies compared to the ocean of generic high fantasy. In fact, every science fiction game ever made is a drop in the bucket compared to fantasy spam.
 

Blaine

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No one asked you for a catalog, but here you are asking me for "all of them."

Why are you being such a defensive twat? Name three conspiracy theory- or dystopian future-based computer games (preferably non-shitty ones). Here, I'll do one: Syndicate. Was that hard?
 

Captain Shrek

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No one asked you for a catalog, but here you are asking me for "all of them."

Why are you being such a defensive twat? Name three conspiracy theory- or dystopian future-based computer games (preferably non-shitty ones). Here, I'll do one: Syndicate. Was that hard?
Are you slow?

Who said anything about SCI FI conspiracy games? Stop bringing your ideas where there is no such context.
 

suejak

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He didn't specific sci-fi conspiracy games; he just opened "dystopian future" as an acceptable alternative to the "weather-beaten path of conspiracy theories" -- a path I'd love to walk down.

I dunno, you're such a floppy cock these days. You smack everybody in the face and you never perform.
 

Blaine

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I didn't specify science fiction conspiracy games when I phrased my question, Captain Shrek. If you have something else in mind, feel free to name it, regardless of genre. Edit: Looks like suejak pointed this out before I hit "Submit."

You can't name any, can you? Actually you probably can, but you know as well as I do that there's a bare handful of them at best, which of course debunks your entire argument. That's why you refuse to name any games and it's why you're throwing a tantrum.
 

Blaine

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Retarded hypocrite.

Apparently you can't read:

Name three conspiracy theory- or dystopian future-based computer games (preferably non-shitty ones).

Do you see "science fiction games ONLY" in that question? I don't. Such games very commonly are science fiction, which is why I mentioned it earlier... but never mind, you're too busy trying to draw attention away from the fact that you've got absolutely shit-nothing to back the useless pile of trash you call an opinion.
 

Blaine

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If you read the original post, you'd realize what was being said was that Conspiracy theories are used often and are a part of everyday use to gamers but still Deus Ex stands apart from them despite "using a well-used setting".

I disagree. You offered an opinion, yet despite the fact that you have neither the time nor the energy to explain it properly, apparently you do have time to defend it for over an hour by equivocating, waffling and ranting, and doing pretty much anything other than offer actual examples and explanations. Making a statement and demanding that others accept is as fact is what Christians do.

Are you a Christian, Captain Shrek? Do you believe in Jesus Christ? Given your proclivities, I'm guessing you have a close relationship with Him.
 

Blaine

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Are you gay Blaine? Your consistent pursuit of me makes me suspect you are a stalker.

Nope, I just want to see how long I can keep you posting, each post totally devoid of any evidence to back up your baseless opinion.

"I believe these conspiracy-based games exist. I can't or won't offer you any proof, but I'll insist that they do exist and argue with you until I'm blue in the face. I don't have to justify my opinion! If you don't agree that they exist despite the lack of evidence to that effect, you're stupid."

Now replace "conspiracy-based games" with "God" and you're a Christian! Congratulations.
 

Murk

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He is wearing aviators in a black and white video about being mad at video games with a stock heavy metal intro/theme.

There is no need to insult this man. It is impossible. He has done it for you, already.
 

Lord Andre

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Current day Obsidian pisses all over current day - Bioware, Betheseda, CDProjekt and Piranha Bytes etc. So, until further notice, they king.

Unless Troika rises from the ashes like a god damn phoenix, nothing is gonna' change that.
 

Lyric Suite

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Obsidian is the company all the mainstream "journaralists" and bloggers like to complain about because it exposes their love for companies like Bethesda or Bioware for what it is: bad taste. This is why they focus on the bugs so much, because dealing with something like story telling and writing would automatically lead to the realization their beloved Skyrim and Ass Effect games are actually steaming piles of shit.
 

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I believe people focus on Obsidian's bugs more because the gameplay isn't fun enough to distract them. Bioware and Bethesda actually make games that are fun for them to play.
 

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