Incline Official codex Star Trek Online topic :salute:

[Vaarna_Aarne]

The process is known as ghost-basing. Ask Norfleet to help you out with it.

 

[MicoSelva]

Well, the guys from my previous fleet claimed I am welcome to join back if I want, but I wouldn't want to be a dick and join them only to leave again when I get the credits.

 

[Wild Slop]

Not necessarily so. If they are in need to complete a given project, you come in and help them and get what you want out of it too. Everybody wins.

You can always make your intentions clear beforehand and see how it is received.

Depending on the circumstance access to precious provisions could be a bigger thing.

 

[Tharkin2]

As to my boat it is a Scimitar.
Next question
For said Scimitar is there an optimal BOFF/DOFF layout?
also
With a LtC(uni) and Lt sci slot can the Sci variant be made useful for NWS?

 

[Drakron]

Depending on the circumstance access to precious provisions could be a bigger thing.

Thats why I said rejoin back, that way no cost for them since you would be buying from the Codex Fleet store and not their Fleet store, provisions would be the ones from the Codex Fleet and not theirs.

 

[Norfleet]

So, am I stuck with dilithium ships only then? All others seem to require either Fleet Credits or Zen to buy.

Be advised that you should STOP CLAIMING PROMOTIONS, because every one you claim is a footbullet. Buy a Mirror ship off the Exchange, those are dirt cheap. It will be awhile before you can afford a Fleet or Lockbox anything.

 

[MicoSelva]

So it seems I took four bullets to my foot already. Why exactly is claiming promotions bad?

 

[Norfleet]

Every time you claim a promotion, you forfeit a respec you could someday claim. What you gain for it? Nothing of any worth whatsoever. Stop doing that.

 

[MicoSelva]

I don't really care about respecs. I won't be playing PvP and my build looks like it will carry me through the story missions just fine.

 

[Norfleet]

Well, you get absolutely nothing for it, so there's no logical reason why you would keep claiming them, particularly after 40...not even a 100K EC ship to show for it. Just NOTHING AT ALL. Besides, I've been through that same idiotic line of reasoning "I don't care", and every single one of those people has ultimately ended up realizing that it was a mistake. Frankly, if I heard my kid say that, I'd beat the shit out of it. Right and wrong answers aren't about caring. Once you start defining correctness in terms of what you care about, it's only a small step before you're shooting up a supermarket.

 

[MicoSelva]

Doesn't getting promoted unlock hier tier of skills and gear, or do I understand that wrongly?

A free ship token every ten levels was a nice touch too. Especially switching to that tactical escort at 30 gave me a significant power boost.

To be honest I didn't even think of checking if I can buy ships at the Exchange for EC. I probably should have.

 

[Norfleet]

Doesn't getting promoted unlock hier tier of skills and gear, or do I understand that wrongly?

You understand it wrongly: While levelling up does unlock higher tier skills and gear, you do not actually need to claim it at Quinn's office to do so. You didn't seriously think I was telling you to use MK 1 gear forever? That's absurd.

A free ship token every ten levels was a nice touch too. Especially switching to that tactical escort at 30 gave me a significant power boost.

I wouldn't say "free", or even "nice". It's not quite free, it cheats you out of a $5 real-money value. And there are alternatives that would grant you far more firepower.

So just stop. 45 and 50 don't even give you a ship! You get NOTHING! NOTHING AT ALL! NOTHING EXCEPT THE MOCKING LAUGHTER OF THE DEVS.

 

[MicoSelva]

I shall abandon my erroneous ways at once, sensei.

 

[MicoSelva]

Just out of curiosity greed. How does claiming a ship token cheat me of $5 worth?

Also, don't I need to be at least a captain to be able to promote my boffs to commander?

 

[Norfleet]

Just out of curiosity greed. How does claiming a ship token cheat me of $5 worth?

A Gold subscriber receives a respec when claiming the promotional mission that awards the "free" ship token as well. This applies even if mission is deferred weeks, months, or even years. Since it is possible to acquire such a status without necessarily paying out of pocket, perhaps through successful trading of in-game merchandise for codes, claiming the promotion cheats you out of this opportunity forever, while granting you no practical short-term gain, and, past 40, NOTHING AT ALL, NADA, ZIP. While the foolishly naive and short-sighted may argue that the value of having a ship NOW outweighs the value of a $5 item one can claim at some undefined point in the nebulous future, a point I firmly disagree with as there are alternative options for acquiring functional, and even superior, substitute ships and substitute-items to tide you over, as well as simply levelling without a ship at all, claiming the 45 and 50 promotions gives you NOTHING, so you're just forfeiting value for absolutely nothing at all. It used to grant a "free costume change" worth on average about 300 EC, but when they decided to stop bothering to charge for this service, you no longer get even that. Suffice it to say that even a bum like you probably considers 300 EC meaningless chump change.

Also, don't I need to be at least a captain to be able to promote my boffs to commander?

Okay, here's the point you're not getting: Whether or not you formally claim the promotional mission has zero bearing on your actual in-game status. You will accrue all the relevant benefits of level regardless of whether you ever set foot in the office or not. The ONLY thing you lose is the "free ship". Since all of these ships are grossly inferior and inexpensive substitutes can be bought for chump change, or simply purloined from the Codex Fleet Bank where they have been dumped and forgotten, the long, and even short-term, view of this is that it isn't worth shooting yourself in the foot over. A man can level from 0 to 50 in under 20 hours without the use of any ship, and the game doesn't even really start until you reach the level cap.

 

[MicoSelva]

Also, don't I need to be at least a captain to be able to promote my boffs to commander?

Okay, here's the point you're not getting: Whether or not you formally claim the promotional mission has zero bearing on your actual in-game status. You will accrue all the relevant benefits of level regardless of whether you ever set foot in the office or not. The ONLY thing you lose is the "free ship". Since all of these ships are grossly inferior and inexpensive substitutes can be bought for chump change, or simply purloined from the Codex Fleet Bank where they have been dumped and forgotten, the long, and even short-term, view of this is that it isn't worth shooting yourself in the foot over. A man can level from 0 to 50 in under 20 hours without the use of any ship, and the game doesn't even really start until you reach the level cap.

Thanks, being especially thick, I indeed did not get that.

 

[Norfleet]

Also worth noting is that all of your boffs are usually either unsuitable or crap, and will ultimately be headed out the airlock. Since the XP used in training them is not considered a valuable or irreplaceable commodity in any way, we won't worry about this at this stage and you can continue to muddle through.

 

[MicoSelva]

I'm guessing only the purple ones are worth keeping in the long run?

 

[stabby]

Well this is awkward, I just hit level 40 with My Little Klingy and I was about to pop in to inquire on opinions for the ship selection. I guess I'll just unbox that Obelisk and use it for now I guess. For future reference though, how are Raptors in general? I'll admit I've yet to get into the nitty gritty of the specs & builds portion of this game, but somehow the universal stations of Birds of Prey seem to make up for the loss of an aft weapon & maybe a console while everything seems about the sameish. Just how wrong am I here?

Also, while I'm no doubt about to be schooled I may as well sign up for another class, are there any C-store purchases that can be considered, well, essential? I'm guessing the EC cap increase is one, and I can see myself working to a couple of extra character slots at some point, but beyond that anything you guys recommend I work towards while seeking out catfood & borg kitties?

 

[Norfleet]

I'm guessing only the purple ones are worth keeping in the long run?

Well, human non-Tactical purples are what Fedlings typically fill their non-Tac boff slots with, since they're the only ones that provide a useful bonus in space, although some still use Efficient Saurians/Borg.

Well this is awkward, I just hit level 40 with My Little Klingy and I was about to pop in to inquire on opinions for the ship selection. I guess I'll just unbox that Obelisk and use it for now I guess. For future reference though, how are Raptors in general?

The Raptor/Escort line of the KDF shopping list is stone dead. There is not a single end-game representative available on the market, with none projected to appear anytime in the next 2 years. None. Zero. Nada. Zilch.

I'll admit I've yet to get into the nitty gritty of the specs & builds portion of this game, but somehow the universal stations of Birds of Prey seem to make up for the loss of an aft weapon & maybe a console while everything seems about the sameish. Just how wrong am I here?

That's the design theory. It is, of course, utter bollocks, since universality is only a perk if it lets you do something you couldn't otherwise have done. Since boff-seating-space is pretty widely explored, this is far less advantageous and the tradeoffs thus look worse and worse. You see very few BoPs flying nowadays, outside of the oddball PvP build.

Also, while I'm no doubt about to be schooled I may as well sign up for another class, are there any C-store purchases that can be considered, well, essential? I'm guessing the EC cap increase is one, and I can see myself working to a couple of extra character slots at some point, but beyond that anything you guys recommend I work towards while seeking out catfood & borg kitties?

For a KDF player, the big shiny thing is the Vandal Destroyer Leech Console. Of course, you missed the sale, so the thing you want to acquire now is Additional Pylons. YOU MUST CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL PYLONS! BUILD MORE FARMS! With DX rates being amazingly bad at the moment, you will need to CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL PYLONS just to maintain parity. WE REQUIRE MORE MINERALS!

 

[Stokowski]

I'm guessing only the purple ones are worth keeping in the long run?

Well, human non-Tactical purples are what Fedlings typically fill their non-Tac boff slots with, since they're the only ones that provide a useful bonus in space, although some still use Efficient Saurians/Borg.

Don't the non-Tactical Fleet Rommies offer stackable +Def%?

 

[Drakron]

Don't the non-Tactical Fleet Rommies offer stackable +Def%?

Subterfuge doesnt stack, Operative does but neither Subterfuge or Infiltrator stacks.

 

[Norfleet]

The Defense bonus does stack, but it is small, and the cost is OUTLANDISH....and NPCs pretty much ignore it, and it makes your crew heinously ugly, and the bonii offered by Humans or Nausicaans is generally considered better. And you know things are bad when Nausicaans are more photogenic. Because they may be ugly aliens, but at least they look like members of your crew instead of like hobos.

 

[stabby]

For a KDF player, the big shiny thing is the Vandal Destroyer Leech Console.

Actually I'm mucking about on both sides of the fence, and was wondering more about account based things. Had to restrain myself quite a bit over the weekend as I just got back into the game in time for the ship sale, and I'd rather take my good sweet time figuring out which one is worth getting as I'm a little more than what you'd call impulsive (ie: almost picked up one of the fighter craft as one of my characters hit the 'Vault' story mission.)

Of course, you missed the sale, so the thing you want to acquire now is Additional Pylons. YOU MUST CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL PYLONS! BUILD MORE FARMS! With DX rates being amazingly bad at the moment, you will need to CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL PYLONS just to maintain parity. WE REQUIRE MORE MINERALS!

Err, I'm guessing 'Pylons' translates to 'Character slots'? Sorry, my lingo to this entire thing extends as far as 'catfood.'

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

People still using Efficient boffs is mostly just because they have to do SOMETHING with those guys they put investment into getting for measly 1 or 2 power points.

EDIT: Also Nausicaans can look like some bad motherfuckers. Fleet Romulans are hobos 4 lyfe.