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J1M

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Haha, fuck that. Klingons are retarded orcs. They should retcon StarTrek lore to say that they stole warp technology from another race's first contact mission. :smug:
That isn't really a retcon at all. The actual canonical history is that the Klingons were originally slaves of the Hur'q, and yes, that's who they stole their warp technology from.
You should enhance the memory-alpha wiki. I couldn't find any information about that on there.
 

Multi-headed Cow

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From the Memory Alpha page on the Hur'q, that information appears in the manual of the game Klingon Academy. Not sure if Canon.
For some reason I thought Worf talked about that at some point during some episode. About the klingons being slaves until Khaless whipped them into shape and then they kicked ass or some such. Damned if I remember where it was though, but it sounds familiar.
 

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From the Memory Alpha page on the Hur'q, that information appears in the manual of the game Klingon Academy. Not sure if Canon.
For some reason I thought Worf talked about that at some point during some episode. About the klingons being slaves until Khaless whipped them into shape and then they kicked ass or some such. Damned if I remember where it was though, but it sounds familiar.

Yes, that is the established foundation myth for the Klingon empire, but I don't recall any mention of stealing the warp drive from the overthrown
 

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Although from TNG on, the Klingons are only presented as honor-manic brutes that leave us wondering how such simple-minded people could form a threatening space empire, in TOS they were quite capable of cunning and were generally intelligent adversaries that offered a plausible match to the federation. IIRC, they invented the photon torpedoes and the disruptors that a good share of the Alpha quadrant uses.

Luckily for us, the Romulans started out awesome and, unlike the Klingons, were more or less preserved that way. I for one welcome our new vulcanoid overlords! I held out on rolling a KDF char because I thought I'd advance my Fed guy a bit more, but I might just switch to the Star Empire as soon as it's available. Warbirds... hmm

/geekgasm
Vulcan Supremacy will never end. As for me, definately rolling a second pointy-eared Sci (seeing how our numbers tend to be, we need some asshole who can tank on the Ground).
 

IDtenT

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Did any of you play Bridge Commander? It was a pretty spiffy game - not so much that it was good, but because it had interesting mechanics. Maybe something like a mix of bridge commander and Elite Force would have worked well as a SP game. Throw in some RPG mechanics to boot.
 

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I liked the way it ended, where you were actually rewarded for remembering that you were still a Fedling and could behave accordingly rather than simply PEWPEWing everything in sight.
 

J1M

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Did any of you play Bridge Commander? It was a pretty spiffy game - not so much that it was good, but because it had interesting mechanics. Maybe something like a mix of bridge commander and Elite Force would have worked well as a SP game. Throw in some RPG mechanics to boot.
That game had excellent atmosphere. Made me want to go to the startrek experience in vegas. Can't now. :(
 

Monocause

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So how does DS9 compare to TNG? I'm running through TNG for the first time, earlier on I just watched some random episodes when I happened upon them on the TV; just started season two.

Also, at which point should I drop TNG and switch to DS9? I read somewhere that the series' quality drops sharply around some later seasons, would like to know your opinion on that.
 

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Gets off to a kind of slow start, though. Wasn't until a few seasons in that the plot really went anywhere.
 

Vaarna_Aarne

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Fed: Codex Civilization Defense Squadron
KDF: (a long-ass name in Klingonese that translates to Harbingers of the Decline)
You should add the ELITE tag to it, I hear all fleets without one suck.
We should probably change the name into German too, everyone knows Germans are the most skilled STO players.


Anyway, if you want the invites just post your handle and a charname for each faction here. You'll also get an invite to our private chat channel, which is received in the Chat Settings (channels tab).
 

Subject37

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So how does DS9 compare to TNG? I'm running through TNG for the first time, earlier on I just watched some random episodes when I happened upon them on the TV; just started season two.

Also, at which point should I drop TNG and switch to DS9? I read somewhere that the series' quality drops sharply around some later seasons, would like to know your opinion on that.

I wouldn't drop TNG, you're already halfway through the grind of the first 2 seasons, which are easily the worst. I can't decide whether season 1 or 2 of TNG is crappier. Season 1 probably has the shittiest stories, but season 2 gave us Dr. Pulaski, a horrible female McCoy clone who's primary defining feature was that she was racist towards Data, so it's a toss-up. It only took the producers one season to realize how awful she was and bring Crusher back. TNG gets much better starting with season 3 and stays strong for the remainder of the show's run. If you're finding season 2 hard to stomach, you can skip most of it with no problem. The only ep I'd recommend you definitely watch is "Q Who", which is where the Borg are introduced, and maybe "Emissary", but only if you care about Worf's backstory.

I agree with what Vaarna and Norfleet said, DS9 is definitely the best of the Treks but it takes a little while to find its footing. You wouldn't really miss much if you started with season 3, which is when the Defiant appears, Sisko decides he's a badass and grows a beard, and Federation tensions with the Dominion really start to heat up. You can ignore Voyager entirely and Enterprise is meh.
 

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Righto, I'll send you an invite when I log on this evening, assuming Norfleet doesn't beat me to it.
So what's the real name of the fleet?
Because I get random invites every 20 min, I need to know which one to accept. )
 

Subject37

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Righto, I'll send you an invite when I log on this evening, assuming Norfleet doesn't beat me to it.
So what's the real name of the fleet?
Because I get random invites every 20 min, I need to know which one to accept. )

Codex Civilization Defense Squadron. And yes, you're going to get invites constantly until you're actually IN a fleet. STO makes it way too easy for people to create new fleets IMHO, which means there are hundreds of them and they're all desperate for members.
 

J1M

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Enterprise (especially season 4) is nowhere close to crap. DS9 has its moments, but they occur when the principle cast members are nowhere to be seen and the secondary ones are busy keeping the show on the air.
 

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