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DS9 has its moments, but they occur when the principle cast members are nowhere to be seen and the secondary ones are busy keeping the show on the air.

Can't disagree with you here. Garak, Damar and Weyoun are the best characters on DS9, and on top of that Enterprise had its finest moments when Shran was on-screen. I remember reading somewhere that Shran was slated to become a primary character on Enterprise if the show had been allowed to continue. I would've loved to see that, Shran is the main reason I have an Andorian alt in STO.
 

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DS9 has its moments, but they occur when the principle cast members are nowhere to be seen and the secondary ones are busy keeping the show on the air.

Can't disagree with you here. Garak, Damar and Weyoun are the best characters on DS9, and on top of that Enterprise had its finest moments when Shran was on-screen. I remember reading somewhere that Shran was slated to become a primary character on Enterprise if the show had been allowed to continue. I would've loved to see that, Shran is the main reason I have an Andorian alt in STO.
Yup, Shran was a great character. The same actor also played Weyoun.
 

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Yup, Shran was a great character. The same actor also played Weyoun.

Yes, Jeffrey Combs. Played Brunt too and probably other characters I'm not aware of. He should've just been given his own Trek show since he carried every scene he was in.
 

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Can't disagree with you here. Garak, Damar and Weyoun are the best characters on DS9, and on top of that Enterprise had its finest moments when Shran was on-screen. I remember reading somewhere that Shran was slated to become a primary character on Enterprise if the show had been allowed to continue. I would've loved to see that, Shran is the main reason I have an Andorian alt in STO.
I recall there was an awkward moment in writer HQ when they killed Weyoun the first time, then realized that they needed that guy. At that point they came up with the "Vortas are Clones" backstory, enabling them to kill Weyoun as often as they wished and still keep bringing him back.
 

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Can't disagree with you here. Garak, Damar and Weyoun are the best characters on DS9, and on top of that Enterprise had its finest moments when Shran was on-screen. I remember reading somewhere that Shran was slated to become a primary character on Enterprise if the show had been allowed to continue. I would've loved to see that, Shran is the main reason I have an Andorian alt in STO.
I recall there was an awkward moment in writer HQ when they killed Weyoun the first time, then realized that they needed that guy. At that point they came up with the "Vortas are Clones" backstory, enabling them to kill Weyoun as often as they wished and still keep bringing him back.
An absolutely wonderful arrangement for any writer.
 

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An absolutely wonderful arrangement for any writer.

Also allowed the"Treachery, Faith and the Great River" to be made.

Edit: I am patching Tribble since they apparently added parts of the new character generator and I wanna check it.
 

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KDF Diplo III is now rolling, put in the remaining Dil with Skar.

Anyway guys, I'll be less active tomorrow, I'll be at the cabin here until Saturday and I don't wish to rearrange my HUDs again. I'll just show up to refine the daily minerals and update Valkar's doffs and turn in CXP.
 

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Notes: Don't queue Embassy 3 on KDF side. It will confuse our suppliers.

Also, bad news: No Rommie Fleets. No chance to win anything. Or, for that matter, pull together a fleet of more than just you schmucks. Guess we'll have to start organizing more grind sessions.
 

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Can you try to entice those Indonesians to any of your pet projects over at our Fleets, Norfleet?

No fleets? How, why?
It's in the new Ask Cryptic. Basically, Romulans will make a permanent choice of alliance with either the Federation or the Klingons during their storyline. Romulans then become something of a hybrid faction, with everything of their own besides the Starbase (meaning featured missions, uniforms, races, ships, etc), and gain access to "some" of their allied ships and their social hubs and so forth.

Personally I think it's a good choice overall.
 

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Personally I think it's a good choice overall.

Of course, adding the Fleet system would just kill struggling Fleets (Fed and KDF, especially KDF) and would create more problem only to the benefit of a few die hard Rommy fans that are already foaming because they cannot play as TNG Romulans.

The impact would perhaps not be as bad in Fed but would be very harsh on KDF were its already hard to get a queue popping, also in the future when that "new faction smell" is over and people go back the Romulans would now have all the problems KDF have in the Fleet system leaving only a few Megafleets around and everyone else dead.

This is something better left after the Romulan faction been established and its running, the Fleet system needs adapting anyway so this can wait instead of jumping the gun and we ending up with another KDF.
 

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They rightly SHOULD be foaming. Instead of playing as a ROMMIE, they're stuck as Emo Vulcans.
 

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They rightly SHOULD be foaming. Instead of playing as a ROMMIE, they're stuck as Emo Vulcans.

It gets worst.

Apparently Cryptic continue to show they cannot into design and I am reading about players having access to their Zen Ship ships of the faction they allied with, now not only this kills the Romulan faction identity since I have a whole fleet of T1-T5 ships I dont use but also this severally kills Zen Shop sales because if you own a Defiant, why the hell are you going to buy a Mogai? Both are escorts, both can cloak and likely the Defiant will be better ... hell why indeed if are in are in a T3 Shipyard Fleet and can get the Fleet Defiant as if they are doing this, they arent making a Fleet Mogai so ... whats the incentive?

Worst with the KDF as you get access to the best Battlecruisers in the game, at Tier 2 and, of course, Elite Disruptors.

One thing is using the Starbase for shopping with them having their own list, another is this being nothing but adding Romulans and Remans to the Fed and KDF race choices along with Romulan ships because allowing Romulans access to the entire list of playable ships in the game will kill the identity of the faction because its very clear to anyone looking at the ships in ESD that not many care, they will use what they have or what is best available.

A lot of what I am reading sounds bullshit, Queues were brought up but fact is this ISNT going to help KDF queues because if I am a invested Fed player with T5 ships it doesnt take a rocket scientist to realize I am allying myself with Fed because its were all my stuff is, not with KDF because I have no stuff there (or just less stuff) and I am guessing this is more about they dont having any Fleet Action ready for the Romulans and so allowing then to "play" their allied faction Fleet Actions ... that makes things worst because Feds have MORE Fleet Actions avaible, again ... not rocket science.

And of course later you cannot unring the bell, if they want to untie the Romulans to push then into the Fleet grind by giving them Starbases they will resist HARD and how are they going to take away their cross ships?

The way I am reading this sounds the Romulan Faction is DOA.
 

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Current Tribble patch.

Traits changes and Warp Core Sluts, I mean Slots.
 

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Achtung!

We're now hitting T4 on Fed SB. We will upgrade in the following order: Science -> Military -> Engineering -> SB4 -> stuff.
 

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Grab the Codex by the pussy
It appears shame has been dragged into the street and shot to better facilitate their latest advertising campaign.

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Just saying, if you're talking about the cleavage, I've got two things you need to bear in mind in this regard:

TOS. Miniskirt.

Roddenberry preferred that his show had quality ladies, and the tradition was kept (DS9 has probably the biggest concentration of wa-wa-wii-wah in terms of the female regulars).

tl;dr: Shame was secretly murdered and buried long ago.
 

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Oh, there's been at least one shamelessly-placed hot chick in every series' main cast, and TOS had them all over the place.

Still, that ad is over the top. :hero:
 

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Gene would be proud of the shameless placement though.
 

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