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Being shotgunned by enemies with multishot has been a bane since Diablo II. Nothing to do with PoE.
 

ArchAngel

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Because it is a zoom zoom game now and boring. Having "great defenses" means having better/faster offense than your enemy and you are supposed to clear maps in 2 minutes while playing flask piano or you are playing wrong.

It is nothing like the PoE I started playing and felt in love with.
PoE2 does seem to be similar to that. Whole game will be slower because even normal enemies can kill you fast no matter your build so drops and whole game will be adjusted for that. PoE1 was adjusted for clearing maps in 2 minutes.
Can you show me on the doll where the bad people forced you to "clear maps in 2 minutes"? Go play Ruthless, because that is literally the PoE experience you want.
Also, flask piano? You know we've had flask enchantments for 3 years now, right? The only flask I press is the life flask and that's less than once per map on average.
Ruthless is still nothing like release PoE, it is some bastard child that nobody wants.

As for 2 minutes, whole design is forcing me. Almost all extra content is time or area gated or you get shit. You either kill fast or you die or get no rewards.

As for flasks, fuck that "automation". To automate 5 flasks it at least 10c per flask cost, requires trading and something you will be doing after 30-40 h of playing. It might not exist as well by that time.
 

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It takes you 30 hours to finish the campaign? I think I'm seeing the problem now.

Imagine taking damage.
As for 2 minutes, whole design is forcing me. Almost all extra content is time or area gated or you get shit.
:lol: What extra content is time gated? Expedition? Blight? Harvest? Harbingers? Ultimatum? Heist? Delirium and Alva are the only ones that have timers, and those have atlas passives to make it easier or disable it. I guess research in betrayal too. So don't run it?
This is 100% a you problem.
 
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ArchAngel

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It takes you 30 hours to finish the campaign? I think I'm seeing the problem now.

Imagine taking damage.
As for 2 minutes, whole design is forcing me. Almost all extra content is time or area gated or you get shit.
:lol: What extra content is time gated? Expedition? Blight? Harvest? Harbingers? Ultimatum? Heist? Delirium and Alva are the only ones that have timers, and those have atlas passives to make it easier or disable it. I guess research in betrayal too. So don't run it?
This is 100% a you problem.
Dear God, like I am talking to retards.. stay in your PoE lane and have fun playing your shitty game. We others will move on to better stuff.
 

Gerrard

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It takes you 30 hours to finish the campaign? I think I'm seeing the problem now.

Imagine taking damage.
As for 2 minutes, whole design is forcing me. Almost all extra content is time or area gated or you get shit.
:lol: What extra content is time gated? Expedition? Blight? Harvest? Harbingers? Ultimatum? Heist? Delirium and Alva are the only ones that have timers, and those have atlas passives to make it easier or disable it. I guess research in betrayal too. So don't run it?
This is 100% a you problem.
Dear God, like I am talking to retards.. stay in your PoE lane and have fun playing your shitty game. We others will move on to better stuff.
Yes, yes, everyone is a retard but you, guy who doesn't know how to play this game.
 
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ArchAngel

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It takes you 30 hours to finish the campaign? I think I'm seeing the problem now.

Imagine taking damage.
As for 2 minutes, whole design is forcing me. Almost all extra content is time or area gated or you get shit.
:lol: What extra content is time gated? Expedition? Blight? Harvest? Harbingers? Ultimatum? Heist? Delirium and Alva are the only ones that have timers, and those have atlas passives to make it easier or disable it. I guess research in betrayal too. So don't run it?
This is 100% a you problem.
Dear God, like I am talking to retards.. stay in your PoE lane and have fun playing your shitty game. We others will move on to better stuff.
Yes, yes, everyone is a retard but you, guy who doesn't know how to play this game.
Why are you so butthurt?
 

Gerrard

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It takes you 30 hours to finish the campaign? I think I'm seeing the problem now.

Imagine taking damage.
As for 2 minutes, whole design is forcing me. Almost all extra content is time or area gated or you get shit.
:lol: What extra content is time gated? Expedition? Blight? Harvest? Harbingers? Ultimatum? Heist? Delirium and Alva are the only ones that have timers, and those have atlas passives to make it easier or disable it. I guess research in betrayal too. So don't run it?
This is 100% a you problem.
Dear God, like I am talking to retards.. stay in your PoE lane and have fun playing your shitty game. We others will move on to better stuff.
Yes, yes, everyone is a retard but you, guy who doesn't know how to play this game.
Why are you so butthurt?
I am the one who's butthurt, not the person who's been whining about the game for the last few pages.

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Damned Registrations

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What extra content is time gated?
DPS check is just another form of time gate. Better question would be what content doesn't require a dps check to give meaningful loot. Heist, Lab, and Harvest are pretty much the only ones that don't. Watching doors open in Heist is cancer, Lab gives fuck all loot because it's balanced for 900% movespeed after you looked up the map layout online, and Harvest doesn't give loot because it's balanced for people swapping items in some turbo autist trade group.
 

ArchAngel

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What extra content is time gated?
DPS check is just another form of time gate. Better question would be what content doesn't require a dps check to give meaningful loot. Heist, Lab, and Harvest are pretty much the only ones that don't. Watching doors open in Heist is cancer, Lab gives fuck all loot because it's balanced for 900% movespeed after you looked up the map layout online, and Harvest doesn't give loot because it's balanced for people swapping items in some turbo autist trade group.
Out of those Lab is only one that does not require good dps as rares in Heist and rares in Harvest can become super tanky. And I have not found a way to skip all fighting in Heist, there is too much of them. Maybe there are specific builds for that for Heist but that does not disapprove me, I am talking about average player experience.
Maybe Blight is only one that does not require fast character with good dps as you can pick that node that gives towers lots of damage while it nerfs your own but that has another problem of monsters getting stuck on map all the time and you needing to go kill them anyways. Sometimes those are tough monsters and even without that node it takes a while to kill them..
 
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You don't need any damage for Heist, just have a character that doesn't fucking die to a wet fart. You can run all your contracts and blueprints white.
What extra content is time gated?
DPS check is just another form of time gate. Better question would be what content doesn't require a dps check to give meaningful loot. Heist, Lab, and Harvest are pretty much the only ones that don't. Watching doors open in Heist is cancer, Lab gives fuck all loot because it's balanced for 900% movespeed after you looked up the map layout online, and Harvest doesn't give loot because it's balanced for people swapping items in some turbo autist trade group.
Harvest doesn't require good DPS. :lol: Define what this "meaningful loot" is for you because you appear to be as clueless as the other guy.

Considering that you're missing out on the league that gives the most "meaningful loot" without any DPS requirement in a very long while, from Kingsmarch, I think you yourself have no idea what it is that you want.
 
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ArchAngel

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You don't need any damage for Heist, just have a character that doesn't fucking die to a wet fart. You can run all your contracts and blueprints white.
What extra content is time gated?
DPS check is just another form of time gate. Better question would be what content doesn't require a dps check to give meaningful loot. Heist, Lab, and Harvest are pretty much the only ones that don't. Watching doors open in Heist is cancer, Lab gives fuck all loot because it's balanced for 900% movespeed after you looked up the map layout online, and Harvest doesn't give loot because it's balanced for people swapping items in some turbo autist trade group.
Harvest doesn't require good DPS. :lol: Define what this "meaningful loot" is for you because you appear to be as clueless as the other guy.

Considering that you're missing out on the league that gives the most "meaningful loot" without any DPS requirement in a very long while, from Kingsmarch, I think you yourself have no idea what it is that you want.
Why would I want to run all of them white? You are supposed to get more loot with modifiers.
 

Gerrard

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Why would I want to run all of them white? You are supposed to get more loot with modifiers.
Modifiers on contracts/blueprints do not affect chest loot, only monster drops. Side loot is nerfed so in grand heists there is no point in opening every extra chest (and it also requires farming even more reveals) so alert reduction is not that useful either.
 

Damned Registrations

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You don't need any damage for Heist, just have a character that doesn't fucking die to a wet fart. You can run all your contracts and blueprints white.
What extra content is time gated?
DPS check is just another form of time gate. Better question would be what content doesn't require a dps check to give meaningful loot. Heist, Lab, and Harvest are pretty much the only ones that don't. Watching doors open in Heist is cancer, Lab gives fuck all loot because it's balanced for 900% movespeed after you looked up the map layout online, and Harvest doesn't give loot because it's balanced for people swapping items in some turbo autist trade group.
Harvest doesn't require good DPS. :lol: Define what this "meaningful loot" is for you because you appear to be as clueless as the other guy.

Considering that you're missing out on the league that gives the most "meaningful loot" without any DPS requirement in a very long while, from Kingsmarch, I think you yourself have no idea what it is that you want.
I haven't played in over a year, I'm not about to touch the poop again because some entirely uncritical shill tells me that it's better this time, no really!

Why does harvest require good dps? I've encountered obnoxiously tanky shit (did they finally stop it overlapping with the fucking multiple defense mod nemesis shit?) but it's not like expedition where shit spawns with crazy regen on a regular basis making it literally impossible to clear. Like I said, the issue is the loot has been nerfed into the ground at this point, you're not upgrading fuck all with it unless you're running around with gear that has like 2 useful affixes or you're dealing with tier 25 mirror shit and ran it 4 billion times.
 

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https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3584433

After many days of internal discussions, we made the decision to not launch the 3.26 expansion for Path of Exile 1 this year. We’re looking to announce this new league in early 2025 (think late January) however we have to remain flexible with this window as releasing an entirely new project can come with challenges that we cannot predict.

This means that the Settlers league will be extended to early 2025.



The forever league. :betrayed:
 

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PoE2 has a different team tho, it doesn't impact PoE1 development.
If you think they didn't put all hands on deck after the early access launch date reveal, you're high on copium.

When asked how big the poe1 team is exactly, they always counter with "well the people work interchangeably on poe1 one day and PoE2 another day". They never confirm a hard number. It could mean that there is a bunch of people working 100% on PoE2 and then there are some guys who work on PoE2 80% and poe1 20%.
 

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This is how it's going to go:

PoE2 launches early access. The hype is huge inside GGG and from all the newcomers. It drowns out the hardcore poe1 frogs. GGG goes into overdrive working on PoE2, making big updates every week. Newcomers get hyped even more seeing such strong support for a live service game. This continues on for 6+ weeks.

At some point one guy at GGG will go "wasn't there supposed to be a league for poe1 in late january?" and everybody will sigh and begrudgingly start working on 3.26 part time, while being mega excited to work on the new thing everybody likes. 3.26, a league for an old product many at GGG don't like that much anymore. A product who's fans have being nothing but niggers to GGG on social media over the years, driving them away from communicating with the community. A product in decline and without any actual future plans, because those plans are now all about PoE2.

We'll be getting 3 small leagues per year, if we're lucky. Probably 2. An actual end-game expansion like Maven/Exarch&Eater maybe every 5 years.
 

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That is best case scenario for PoE2 though. Another one is after the initial hype the complaints are triple the amount and everybody starts questioning the PoE2 design decisions, most prominent streamers go back to PoE1 and start to mock the way 2 is and hordes of people mimic them. So now both games have similar number of players and every time GGG release something that people don't like for any of the two it will be "The future of PoE" level of panic.
We will see, I'm looking forward to trying PoE2 to see how it feels to play at later levels, if the pace of the game is actually any different when you are using meta build with good gear.
 

ArchAngel

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I for one am looking for arpg that is as fun to play before endgame as Diablo 2 or Grim Dawn was. There is a good reason why I am playing PD2 now instead of PoE1 shit.
I tried D4 new league and it is just pointless and boring with same maps and same enemies with no feeling of progress except leveling up here and there. Same problem with Last Epoch
 

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This is how it's going to go:

PoE2 launches early access. The hype is huge inside GGG and from all the newcomers. It drowns out the hardcore poe1 frogs. GGG goes into overdrive working on PoE2, making big updates every week. Newcomers get hyped even more seeing such strong support for a live service game. This continues on for 6+ weeks.

At some point one guy at GGG will go "wasn't there supposed to be a league for poe1 in late january?" and everybody will sigh and begrudgingly start working on 3.26 part time, while being mega excited to work on the new thing everybody likes. 3.26, a league for an old product many at GGG don't like that much anymore. A product who's fans have being nothing but niggers to GGG on social media over the years, driving them away from communicating with the community. A product in decline and without any actual future plans, because those plans are now all about PoE2.

We'll be getting 3 small leagues per year, if we're lucky. Probably 2. An actual end-game expansion like Maven/Exarch&Eater maybe every 5 years.
This is way too detailed to be an accurate prediction, but no plan to phase poe1 out together with the obvious unfeasibility of GGG continuing to work on both post poe2 release is definitely concerning
 

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