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ArchAngel

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fun to play before endgame as Diablo 2 or Grim Dawn
That's a nonstatment as both games don't have "end game" and play close to the same way at low levels as at high levels. Once you hit around level 30-40 in both games your gameplay never changes.
It changes plenty as higher levels give you way more challenge and you need to play differently to survive. Especially Hell, it feels like Diablo 1 early game once you hit early Hell with bad gear.
And in Grim Dawn the game certainly changes a lot with acts and there way more to do than just kill everything that moves.
 

Gerrard

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When PoE2 comes out and nobody actually likes it GGG is going to have one hell of a meeting.
 

Mark.L.Joy

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They've have yet to show the end game which is the most important part of the game(i'm guessing there is none), if they expect people to enjoy rolling around bosses a la dark souls for 10s of hours over and over again they'll have a very nice surprise.
 

Turisas

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When PoE2 comes out and nobody actually likes it GGG is going to have one hell of a meeting.

It's made entirely for consolefags so they'll slurp it up no doubt. PoE1 players will have a field day shitting all over it once the initial honeymoon phase is over.
 

ArchAngel

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They've have yet to show the end game which is the most important part of the game(i'm guessing there is none), if they expect people to enjoy rolling around bosses a la dark souls for 10s of hours over and over again they'll have a very nice surprise.
But isn't rolling around bosses for 10s of hours exactly what people that love PoE endgame do? They even tell the rest of us that do not feel like grinding for 30h to get to that part to get lost and not say anything.. PoE2 will just allow you do start doing that from the start, without a need for pointless grind through badly unbalanced endgame..
 

Mark.L.Joy

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Those are some weird standards, who are you even talking about? Anyone who does bosses is killing them in whatever minimum amount of time phases allow for or aiming for that goal. And I doubt ubers are even a goal for most people the end game starts at around t14 and you can grind for whatever you want there.

Pointless grind is the game, it's in the name, you call it pointless because you don't like the game, simple, poe2 will be the same except now with extra rolling, every video has it, even against white mobs, not a problem in a single player game where you can take your time and go trough characters and do whatever you fancy at your own pace but I don't see it working in their current model of 4 seasons per year.
 

ArchAngel

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Those are some weird standards, who are you even talking about? Anyone who does bosses is killing them in whatever minimum amount of time phases allow for or aiming for that goal. And I doubt ubers are even a goal for most people the end game starts at around t14 and you can grind for whatever you want there.

Pointless grind is the game, it's in the name, you call it pointless because you don't like the game, simple, poe2 will be the same except now with extra rolling, every video has it, even against white mobs, not a problem in a single player game where you can take your time and go trough characters and do whatever you fancy at your own pace but I don't see it working in their current model of 4 seasons per year.
No, there are plenty of Ubers and boss battles that take longer. Sure there are also people that arrive there with 50 mil dps characters but those are not all or majority.

As for rolling around white monsters, I am sure that will not be happening as soon as people hit mid levels and get some gear, that will only be experience for Act 1 and maybe Act 2.
Also I do not see a problem, it was like that in Diablo 1 where you didn't have rolling ability but you moved back to doorways and such to limit the number of enemies that could get to you at same time. It was much more exciting gameplay where you needed to take care not to die easily than what PoE1 has where you clear whole screen or even outside of the screen with one press of a button as a way to prevent you from dying easily.
 

Mark.L.Joy

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We obviously don't know what the progression will be like but every single piece of video has the player dodging and backing, skills and their descriptions also seem to conform to this type of gameplay plus some frenetic flask pressing for good measure there's been 0 representation of any increase in power in any of those shots and that's concerning.
 

tritosine2k

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GGG is the new firaxis. With nu-xcom a success and streamers playing "long war" having a good time then dev knows better (how to drink da Kool-Aid) and nu-xcom2 became some glorified football manager. Aaaaand it's over:

Without XCOM 3, Indie Developers Carry the Turn-Based Tactics Torch
2024. apr. 20. — With Firaxis' plans for the future of the XCOM franchise unclear, several notable indie titles have stepped in to fill its turn-based(...)
 
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Israfael

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It was much more exciting gameplay where you needed to take care not to die easily than what PoE1 has where you clear whole screen or even outside of the screen with one press of a button as a way to prevent you from dying easily.
You can always play Ruthless or do Ziz gauntlet, it typically goes like this, especially with bad mods like multiproj and extra phys damage as X. You can even spice it up by refusing to use logout macro to make the game truly riveting and exciting. Also, there is always Sactum, it is exactly like this if you don't have high DPS or don't play Sanctum optimized build like PB or various totems.
 

ArchAngel

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It was much more exciting gameplay where you needed to take care not to die easily than what PoE1 has where you clear whole screen or even outside of the screen with one press of a button as a way to prevent you from dying easily.
You can always play Ruthless or do Ziz gauntlet, it typically goes like this, especially with bad mods like multiproj and extra phys damage as X. You can even spice it up by refusing to use logout macro to make the game truly riveting and exciting. Also, there is always Sactum, it is exactly like this if you don't have high DPS or don't play Sanctum optimized build like PB or various totems.
Does not work, loot and balance is still completely different. Monsters are still from base game.
I tried Sanctum, that shit was boring and not healing after you get hit.
 

tritosine2k

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Fate of exile, coming soon:

saying goodbye to Civ and Firaxis. For good.
2021. mar. 14. — It's a NO from me for Firaxis and Civ from now on. Let's see if Humankind does it any better. If their AI get's a single Bonus, I will not touch that game
looooool
 

Gerrard

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Mark.L.Joy

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Loading times are somehow faster after yesterday's server clusterfuck they are probably as surprised as I am ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

tritosine2k

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GGG is the new firaxis. With nu-xcom a success and streamers playing "long war" having a good time then dev knows better (how to drink da Kool-Aid) and nu-xcom2 became some glorified football manager. Aaaaand it's over:

Without XCOM 3, Indie Developers Carry the Turn-Based Tactics Torch
2024. apr. 20. — With Firaxis' plans for the future of the XCOM franchise unclear, several notable indie titles have stepped in to fill its turn-based(...)

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tritosine2k

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I suppose ppl coming up with act3 stuff don't even work there for many many years now.

The 40/40 achievement stuff (lol) reads like written by middle schoolers.
 

Perkel

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Starting final playthrough before POE2 in a hour.
Comfy duelist, true melee only, standard, after work so not that many hours, no trading nor using old stash items.
2,250h just on steam. Time to bury the old...
 

Perkel

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GGG and their shenanigans.

Got baron in act 3. Overall they upped shitload MF because i didn't play in a long time. Like act 5 now and found at least 10 uniues (including baron) and i am mostly speedrunning with ethereal knives and double strike.
 

ArchAngel

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That is nerfed Baron. They always kill all the fun out of items unless they are stuff like Mageblood that I have never owned (or Headhunter) even after few thousand hours of playtime. Closest thing was Doctor card that let me buy stuff for my first Shaper killer character when Shaper was still ultimate boss.
 

Perkel

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done with duelist playtrough.

Around 10 hours, doing all side quests too. Mostly flying on ethereal knives dual wielding claws and glad ascendancy.
 

ArchAngel

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done with duelist playtrough.

Around 10 hours, doing all side quests too. Mostly flying on ethereal knives dual wielding claws and glad ascendancy.
you are going to skip maps?
 

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