Pathfinder Pathfinder: Kingmaker Builds and Strats Thread

[Desiderius]

Still no one man enough to put KM on hard I notice.

I beat the game with maximum taxes at least, do I get a bronze medal for that or something

When moderns hear L’état, c’est moi they think "what an asshole" whereas the French of the time thought "Thank God, finally a king who won't shit his own bed like all those other LE morons."

 

[Desiderius]

I think I built a decent Elf ECB Wiz7/DivineGuardian3/Thug4/EK6 which gets you to lvl 7 spells and lets you use Combat Reflexes to spam Bodyguard and/or AoOs off of Fearing Dreadful Carnage back when we were trying to make ECB work.

You don't worry about caster level or maxxing INT/CHR because you aren't trying to beat saves or resists.

 

[Desiderius]

LG asshole is an overcorrection but a necessary one. There will be an LG Hellknight/Aeon run alongside Regill in Wrath.

 

[Haplo]

I think I built a decent Elf ECB Wiz7/DivineGuardian3/Thug4/EK6 which gets you to lvl 7 spells and lets you use Combat Reflexes to spam Bodyguard and/or AoOs off of Fearing Dreadful Carnage back when we were trying to make ECB work.

You don't worry about caster level or maxxing INT/CHR because you aren't trying to beat saves or resists.

Shame to miss out on Seamantle, though.

 

[Desiderius]

I think I built a decent Elf ECB Wiz7/DivineGuardian3/Thug4/EK6 which gets you to lvl 7 spells and lets you use Combat Reflexes to spam Bodyguard and/or AoOs off of Fearing Dreadful Carnage back when we were trying to make ECB work.

You don't worry about caster level or maxxing INT/CHR because you aren't trying to beat saves or resists.

Shame to miss out on Seamantle, though.

Sure, but that’s kind of win more at that point unless you’re soloing. I think that’s why some late game mobs have Freedom of Movement.

 

[razvedchiki]

im trying to build the perfect tank slayer and i came down to 2 builds

- dex slayer with 3 lvls of rogue for 1.5 dex to dmg,1 monk for them acs, rest slayer using the elven curved blade. (naked)
- str slayer slayer with one lvl of monk dip for the usual, dual wielding falcatas.( also naked).
both builds will take shatter defences for that sweet auto sneak attacks (combined with the dirge of doom).

prob the first one will be tankier due to the dex but the second will outdamage the first in the long run.

 

[Haplo]

Not sure why you'd call a slayer "tank"?
It doesn't really fit to this class. I suppose you can make him survive well enough, but a "tank" designation really doesn't fit.

 

[razvedchiki]

i want to use him as such, my mcs are usually tanks. trully an aldori defender/ swordlord is a better tank but doesnt have the same damage output.
next would be a sword saint which is untoucable once he is fully buffed but depends on rests/timed buffs.

 

[Haplo]

A Sword Saint depends on timed buffs mostly in Act 1 and partially 2. Beyond that his buffs are no longer a party limiting factor.

 

[Desiderius]

Haplo is basically saying no need to tank, just make front liners reasonably resilient and slay. Best D is a good O.

For DEX-melee Slayer Vanguard is the way to go for Uncanny Dodge. Splashes eventually cost you Improved Quarry and delay your Advanced Rogue Feats so should be avoided. Vanguard especially needs to get to lvl 15 ASAP to up his Vanguard's Bond to +2/+2. It uses INT so that toon can also be skill monkey with Trapfinding.

Naked is bad for most of the game where it matters, as is the "usual" monk splash on a non-CHR/WIS toon.

 

[Mr. Magniloquent]

I turned Valerie into a Slayer and she works just fine as a tank. I am aware that here 1 level of TSS does contribute. She'd be able to climb a bit higher in the AC category if I kept her TSS, but I like her getting sneak attacks, combat style feats, and eagerly await the few advanced rogue talents she's about to get. My PC is polarm slayer that uses Dirty Trick and Linzi Dazzles. Everything gets murdered.

 

[bec de corbin]

How does Valerie do as a kineticist? I didn't have that dlc last time I played, so I haven't tried it. She's got really high CON, right?

 

[Cyberarmy]

How does Valerie do as a kineticist? I didn't have that dlc last time I played, so I haven't tried it. She's got really high CON, right?

She does good as a kineticst kinght.

 

[razvedchiki]

Haplo is basically saying no need to tank, just make front liners reasonably resilient and slay. Best D is a good O.

For DEX-melee Slayer Vanguard is the way to go for Uncanny Dodge. Splashes eventually cost you Improved Quarry and delay your Advanced Rogue Feats so should be avoided. Vanguard especially needs to get to lvl 15 ASAP to up his Vanguard's Bond to +2/+2. It uses INT so that toon can also be skill monkey with Trapfinding.

Naked is bad for most of the game where it matters, as is the "usual" monk splash on a non-CHR/WIS toon.

Does vanguard bond stack with freebooters bond?

 

[oldmanpaco]

Anyone using CotW mod? You need to lvl up your pets yourself.

Who has a kickass smilodon build?

 

[razvedchiki]

iam using cotw and yes you lvl them manually.
you can also give them some trinkets/rings etc.

 

[Desiderius]

Anyone using CotW mod? You need to lvl up your pets yourself.

Who has a kickass smilodon build?

Smilodon doesn’t need a build to kick ass. Dirty Fighting into Quick Dirty Trick is a fun one, but it’s also useful to get the teamwork feats that take away soft cover for your ranged toons.

 

[oldmanpaco]

Anyone using CotW mod? You need to lvl up your pets yourself.

Who has a kickass smilodon build?

Smilodon doesn’t need a build to kick ass. Dirty Fighting into Quick Dirty Trick is a fun one, but it’s also useful to get the teamwork feats that take away soft cover for your ranged toons.

He is with a Mad Dog/Sacred Huntsman build and will get the teamwork feats free.

Say does that ability go both ways? If I take outflank on the cat will the sacred huntsman get it?

Anyway I'll look into dirty fighting.

you can also give them some trinkets/rings etc.

Yeah that's the one of the reasons I wanted to try it out.

 

[Cleric of Asmodeus]

I’ve been going ham with the respec mod and having so much fun. Respeccing the companions’ base classes but keeping their original stats. Not pure but it still feels ok on Hard.

Right now I’m using:
MC: Paladin w/ 2h
Valerie: Bard. Melee outflank buddy and enchants.
Jaethal: Ecclesitheurge (Asmodeus, Fire and Trickery, blaster). Reach weapons.
Ekundayo: Ranged Slayer
Jubilost: Grenadier
Kanerah: Wiz/AT, Kalikke: Water/Air Kin

Ranged slayer and grenadier are totally absurd. Paladin is a little one note especially if he can’t smite anyone but Jaethal. I might try something new there soon. He also gets smeared in melee sometimes.

Amiri is on deck as a Freebooter and she’s super strong, too.

 

[RK47]

Haplo is basically saying no need to tank, just make front liners reasonably resilient and slay. Best D is a good O.

For DEX-melee Slayer Vanguard is the way to go for Uncanny Dodge. Splashes eventually cost you Improved Quarry and delay your Advanced Rogue Feats so should be avoided. Vanguard especially needs to get to lvl 15 ASAP to up his Vanguard's Bond to +2/+2. It uses INT so that toon can also be skill monkey with Trapfinding.

Naked is bad for most of the game where it matters, as is the "usual" monk splash on a non-CHR/WIS toon.

Does vanguard bond stack with freebooters bond?

Absolutely ridiculous

 

[Desiderius]

Not really. Kind of clunky actually. Number of rounds = INT bonus, plus the way rounding works it doesn't hit +2/+2 until lvl 15.

 

[Zboj Lamignat]

How shit would Octavia be as an eldritch archer? Do her wiz/at spells even work with magi ranged spellstrike?

 

[bec de corbin]

How shit would Octavia be as an eldritch archer? Do her wiz/at spells even work with magi ranged spellstrike?

I haven't tried that, but considering a lot of damage spells are already ranged touch, I'm not sure you'll really be better off with that than just doing regular eldritch trickster with her. Remember, flanking is pretty much constant so the bonus sneak attack damage on your spells is basically always going to trigger.

 

[Zboj Lamignat]

OK, to specify, I meant EA + AT. Mostly 2lvls of EA for ranged spellstrike and being able to spam acid splash with bow during trash fights.

 

[oldmanpaco]

So R1/EA2/W7/AT10? I'm sure you can squeeze another class in there! Maybe a monk splash? Everyone loves monk splashes.