Pathfinder Pathfinder: Kingmaker Builds and Strats Thread

[Haplo]

Uhm, you just get 1 more attack

Wait, what? it explicitly says your hangs are transformed into freaking claws, no?

Yeah, but you can use them to wield normal weapons as usual. The Bite is a bonus.

 

[panda]

Uhm, you just get 1 more attack

Wait, what? it explicitly says your hangs are transformed into freaking claws, no?

You assumed that anyone with this feat is unable to use weapons?
It'd be useless feat then.

 

[vazha]

Uhm, you just get 1 more attack

Wait, what? it explicitly says your hangs are transformed into freaking claws, no?

You assumed that anyone with this feat is unable to use weapons?
It'd be useless feat then.

But why would any normal person assume otherwise? it gives you freaking claws! claws! :loses it, breaks down in tearful laughter:
Still, I got my bite attack from Dragon Disciple but I guess it would be good to have it on Nokie then.

 

[panda]

But why would any normal person assume otherwise?

Because having a feat that actually harms 99% of builds is rather questionable, to say it smoothly?

 

[vazha]

But why would any normal person assume otherwise?

Because having a feat that actually harms 99% of builds is rather questionable, to say it smoothly?

I thought it was for wanna-be druids and their like. Or for a nature-worshiping monk of somesort. If it works the way you say it does, then it's overpowered.

 

[Lhynn]

Dagger:
Edict (+4, Mithril, Speed, Breaker of Wills) - Whiterose Abbey
Dark Wind (+4, +5 bonus to Stealth checks, increase sneak damage with any weapon by 1d6)
Chaos Shard (+2, chance to confuse on hit)
Lighting Duelist (+1, Shock, +4 Insight bonus, +1 Dodge bonus)- Pitax
Arcane Protector (+1, +3 to Dodge, Immunity to nauseated confition)

Kama:
Talon of the Wise (+2, Agile)


Shortsword:
Nature's Will (+2, Vermin Bane)

For a sword saint with a level of monk shortswords blow. Daggers are insane tho. lighting duelist seems like its stupidly good.

 

[Yosharian]

Dagger:
Edict (+4, Mithril, Speed, Breaker of Wills) - Whiterose Abbey
Dark Wind (+4, +5 bonus to Stealth checks, increase sneak damage with any weapon by 1d6)
Chaos Shard (+2, chance to confuse on hit)
Lighting Duelist (+1, Shock, +4 Insight bonus, +1 Dodge bonus)- Pitax
Arcane Protector (+1, +3 to Dodge, Immunity to nauseated confition)

Kama:
Talon of the Wise (+2, Agile)


Shortsword:
Nature's Will (+2, Vermin Bane)

For a sword saint with a level of monk shortswords blow. Daggers are insane tho. lighting duelist seems like its stupidly good.

There is a very good +5 shortsword in the link, though. I have no idea where it is in the game, though...

 

[toro]

Web + Freedom of Movement is cheese? cause it feels like.

 

[VentilatorOfDoom]

Worked in IWD why not here?

 

[vazha]

For a sword saint with a level of monk shortswords blow. Daggers are insane tho. lighting duelist seems like its stupidly good.

Best thing about the lighting duelist is you can get it as early as in chapter 2 if you manage to kill (via an amulet, most probably) that pompous Pitax dude who's fighting the trolls.

 

[Cael]

Web + Freedom of Movement is cheese? cause it feels like.

No. Standard DnD tactic. One cancels out the other, so it is a legit tactic. The guy on the receiving end of that combo should have brought his own wizard.

 

[toro]

Web + Freedom of Movement is cheese? cause it feels like.

No. Standard DnD tactic. One cancels out the other, so it is a legit tactic. The guy on the receiving end of that combo should have brought his own wizard.

I understand but I still feel dirty for using it.

 

[Cael]

Web + Freedom of Movement is cheese? cause it feels like.

No. Standard DnD tactic. One cancels out the other, so it is a legit tactic. The guy on the receiving end of that combo should have brought his own wizard.

I understand but I still feel dirty for using it.

Could be worse. Could be Minsc bearing down on the bad guy wielding his +2 Greatsword of permanent Free Action yelling about hamsters and butt kicking for Goodness.

 

[vazha]

Important question - is bite ....finesseable? :D

 

[Yosharian]

Important question - is bite ....finesseable? :D

Feral Mutagen is trash.

To answer your question, you can't Finesse natural attacks unless you use an Agile Amulet of Mighty Fists.

 

[Lawntoilet]

Dagger:
Edict (+4, Mithril, Speed, Breaker of Wills) - Whiterose Abbey
Dark Wind (+4, +5 bonus to Stealth checks, increase sneak damage with any weapon by 1d6)
Chaos Shard (+2, chance to confuse on hit)
Lighting Duelist (+1, Shock, +4 Insight bonus, +1 Dodge bonus)- Pitax
Arcane Protector (+1, +3 to Dodge, Immunity to nauseated confition)

Kama:
Talon of the Wise (+2, Agile)


Shortsword:
Nature's Will (+2, Vermin Bane)

For a sword saint with a level of monk shortswords blow. Daggers are insane tho. lighting duelist seems like its stupidly good.

There is also an awesome +3 Agile Kama you can get from an artisan that has a chance to blind every hit.

 

[Ent]

I'm thinking about going a 3 knife master/ 17 vivisectionist and cutting up stuff with multiple kukris but then I realized I might be losing a point of BAB with this allocation. Are there enough agile weapons out there for me to go full vivi or is there anything good to get from a 4th level of rogue?

 

[Haplo]

Important question - is bite ....finesseable? :D

Feral Mutagen is trash.

To answer your question, you can't Finesse natural attacks unless you use an Agile Amulet of Mighty Fists.

...which you find very early.

 

[vazha]

Important question - is bite ....finesseable? :D

Feral Mutagen is trash.

To answer your question, you can't Finesse natural attacks unless you use an Agile Amulet of Mighty Fists.

...which you find very early.

which takes up a precious amulet slot. Aint worth it.

 

[sser]

Any legit STR builds? I feel like everything I see is DEX.

I'd like to do a melee fighting inquisitor but it seems like it just spreads out the skills and attributes too much.

 

[Lawntoilet]

Any legit STR builds? I feel like everything I see is DEX.

I'd like to do a melee fighting inquisitor but it seems like it just spreads out the skills and attributes too much.

Just take Heavy Armor prof and go with a 2h weapon, you should be fine going with a Str build for that.

 

[jungl]

Scaled fist. make sure to grab trip feat when it available and the trip style strike. Use Enlarge person strength, dex gear and fury fall by level 12 your a giant MMA nigger that trips everything that can be tripped for free and does 5-7 attacks upwards to mid 40s. Its pretty sad when tripping more reliable cc then spells. Fighting devourer or demons. Great combo with rogue. Dispel a defaced sister trip her with monk or ekuns dog thats like -4 ac. Then nok nok rogue ability that further lowers her ac.

 

[sser]

Does Two-Handed feats affect a 1h weapon held with nothing in the offhand? Like if I focus on Scimitars but wield it 2-handed do I get bonuses there to further maximize its crits?

 

[hell bovine]

Important question - is bite ....finesseable? :D

...actually does it work with that monk flurry thingy?

Edit: Also that level 3 rogue feat (weapon finesse) has both claws and bite on the list.

 

[Yosharian]

Important question - is bite ....finesseable? :D

...actually does it work with that monk flurry thingy?

Edit: Also that level 3 rogue feat (weapon finesse) has both claws and bite on the list.

In Pathfinder, natural attacks and unarmed strike are completely separate and do not interact with each other. The Monk's Flurry of Blows ability works with:

any combination of unarmed strikes and attacks with a monk special weapon

It doesn't work with natural attacks.