Pathfinder Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Enhanced Plus Edition - now with turn-based combat

[Jack Of Owls]

Well, I played just a few minutes of it about three days ago after creating a wizard character but I was in a very depressed mood and it wasn't conducive to enjoying the game and in fact EVERYTHING about it annoyed me and further darkened my black mood. My fault. I shouldn't have attempted Pathfinder in that state of mind and will try again some day, perhaps after a few more patches. But really, that little halfling (gnome?) puke at the beginning with the generic cheerful young girl voice actor voice that you hear in countless cheap PC and video games really chaffed my ass for some reason. First thing I wanted to do was blast her with my most powerful and deadly spell but apparently you can't kill your own party members in this if the whim should so take you. Where's the fun in that? Like I said, I'll try this again when I'm in a mood where I don't want to kill everyone and everything.

 

[ArchAngel]

Most bugs I ran into were minor ones and a fair bit of them are in chapters after Pitax (which is end game or about last 10%). Nothing really huge but I run into new one every 2h so it gets kind of irritating.

 

[Yosharian]

Most bugs I ran into were minor ones and a fair bit of them are in chapters after Pitax (which is end game or about last 10%). Nothing really huge but I run into new one every 2h so it gets kind of irritating.

The damage stacking bugs aren't minor, though. They destroy game balance utterly. And, worse, there's no sign of Owlcat even considering them as bugs, let alone taking steps to fix them.

 

[purpleblob]

I had a funny bug after I

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beat and killed Nyrissa, enraged LK and went back to defend my Kingdom. As soon as I entered that camp where everyone is Nok Nok dies from something. I had to raise him from the dead with a scroll :D

After that it all worked OK. That last part so far seems kind of short. And what is the point of going to

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Tartuk and Lamashtu when they don't remove parts of the curse? All you get is some pathetic XP and very little in items

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If you recruited ‎‎Bartholomew Delgado as your kingdom advisor, you can rescue him from trobold/Tartuk's lair

 

[Daidre]

It seems they've fixed Arcane Trickster multy-ray behavior. Played one in 1.2 beta and almost all casts resalted in sneak only on first hit, like in the rules.
Kudos to Eldritch Arcana's author. Mod is updated and compatible with 1.2.3

 

[Yosharian]

It seems they've fixed Arcane Trickster multy-ray behavior. Played one in 1.2 beta and almost all casts resalted in sneak only on first hit, like in the rules.
Kudos to Eldritch Arcana's author. Mod is updated and compatible with 1.2.3

Ehh? It wasn't in the patch notes... are you sure?

 

[Daidre]

I tried to check it for like 100h every time I casted Rays. With exception of edge cases like target being dead after first hit and others only printed in the log, I am pretty sure it was 1 sneak per cast. And no sneak from Unholy component in Hellfire Ray.
Owlcat does have tradition not to write everything in changelog or use some vague wording.

 

[Projas]

Well, I played just a few minutes of it about three days ago after creating a wizard character but I was in a very depressed mood and it wasn't conducive to enjoying the game and in fact EVERYTHING about it annoyed me and further darkened my black mood. My fault. I shouldn't have attempted Pathfinder in that state of mind and will try again some day, perhaps after a few more patches. But really, that little halfling (gnome?) puke at the beginning with the generic cheerful young girl voice actor voice that you hear in countless cheap PC and video games really chaffed my ass for some reason. First thing I wanted to do was blast her with my most powerful and deadly spell but apparently you can't kill your own party members in this if the whim should so take you. Where's the fun in that? Like I said, I'll try this again when I'm in a mood where I don't want to kill everyone and everything.

She's female Grobnar and the desire to murder her will never go away.

 

[Haplo]

Well, I played just a few minutes of it about three days ago after creating a wizard character but I was in a very depressed mood and it wasn't conducive to enjoying the game and in fact EVERYTHING about it annoyed me and further darkened my black mood. My fault. I shouldn't have attempted Pathfinder in that state of mind and will try again some day, perhaps after a few more patches. But really, that little halfling (gnome?) puke at the beginning with the generic cheerful young girl voice actor voice that you hear in countless cheap PC and video games really chaffed my ass for some reason. First thing I wanted to do was blast her with my most powerful and deadly spell but apparently you can't kill your own party members in this if the whim should so take you. Where's the fun in that? Like I said, I'll try this again when I'm in a mood where I don't want to kill everyone and everything.

Well, you can blast your own party members. Just not with all spells. Targeted attacks, like Cleave and Vital strike should also work for example.

 

[Cael]

Change the settings to enable friendly fire and do an oopsie with a few fireballs. Problem solved.

 

[Yosharian]

I tried to check it for like 100h every time I casted Rays. With exception of edge cases like target being dead after first hit and others only printed in the log, I am pretty sure it was 1 sneak per cast. And no sneak from Unholy component in Hellfire Ray.
Owlcat does have tradition not to write everything in changelog or use some vague wording.

Huh. Ok, I take it back then. Maybe the game balance is in a better state than I thought. Time to dive back in!

 

[Yosharian]

Well, I played just a few minutes of it about three days ago after creating a wizard character but I was in a very depressed mood and it wasn't conducive to enjoying the game and in fact EVERYTHING about it annoyed me and further darkened my black mood. My fault. I shouldn't have attempted Pathfinder in that state of mind and will try again some day, perhaps after a few more patches. But really, that little halfling (gnome?) puke at the beginning with the generic cheerful young girl voice actor voice that you hear in countless cheap PC and video games really chaffed my ass for some reason. First thing I wanted to do was blast her with my most powerful and deadly spell but apparently you can't kill your own party members in this if the whim should so take you. Where's the fun in that? Like I said, I'll try this again when I'm in a mood where I don't want to kill everyone and everything.

She's female Grobnar and the desire to murder her will never go away.

You can murder them (or get them killed? Whatever) but not that particular character, unfortunately, because the devs have constructed the game such that she's integral to the plot.

 

[Haplo]

I tried to check it for like 100h every time I casted Rays. With exception of edge cases like target being dead after first hit and others only printed in the log, I am pretty sure it was 1 sneak per cast. And no sneak from Unholy component in Hellfire Ray.
Owlcat does have tradition not to write everything in changelog or use some vague wording.

Now hopefully they also remove (already did?) the sneak dice on bonus sources of melee damage (cloak of winter wolf, acid gauntlets, vicious arms, force scimitar, multi-element bows and such).

 

[Sykar]

I tried to check it for like 100h every time I casted Rays. With exception of edge cases like target being dead after first hit and others only printed in the log, I am pretty sure it was 1 sneak per cast. And no sneak from Unholy component in Hellfire Ray.
Owlcat does have tradition not to write everything in changelog or use some vague wording.

If this is true, then it is

 

[hell bovine]

Regarding Linzi, you could try trading her to the technic league during the road encounter and then... just not looking up their camp?
(though the annoying plot device probably comes back on her own eventually)

 

[Funposter]

It seems they've fixed Arcane Trickster multy-ray behavior. Played one in 1.2 beta and almost all casts resalted in sneak only on first hit, like in the rules.

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[Nekot-The-Brave]

I finally got my Signed Collector's edition today. Normally I expect the devs to sign the box, but in this case they signed the artwork that came with it. I was so surprised when I saw Chris Avellone's signature on it. It like blew me away <3

 

[ArchAngel]

I tried to check it for like 100h every time I casted Rays. With exception of edge cases like target being dead after first hit and others only printed in the log, I am pretty sure it was 1 sneak per cast. And no sneak from Unholy component in Hellfire Ray.
Owlcat does have tradition not to write everything in changelog or use some vague wording.

I think I was able to sneak attack with more than one ray when casting scorching ray. But I did notice 3rd ray not getting sneak dice. I will need to test this further.

 

[ArchAngel]

Most bugs I ran into were minor ones and a fair bit of them are in chapters after Pitax (which is end game or about last 10%). Nothing really huge but I run into new one every 2h so it gets kind of irritating.

The damage stacking bugs aren't minor, though. They destroy game balance utterly. And, worse, there's no sign of Owlcat even considering them as bugs, let alone taking steps to fix them.

Which one exactly?

 

[Yosharian]

I tried to check it for like 100h every time I casted Rays. With exception of edge cases like target being dead after first hit and others only printed in the log, I am pretty sure it was 1 sneak per cast. And no sneak from Unholy component in Hellfire Ray.
Owlcat does have tradition not to write everything in changelog or use some vague wording.

Now hopefully they also remove (already did?) the sneak dice on bonus sources of melee damage (cloak of winter wolf, acid gauntlets, vicious arms, force scimitar, multi-element bows and such).

Yeah, this definitely needs fixing too.

 

[Daidre]

Well, I do not have a time to check everything, but quick look on Alkali Gloves gave this result

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Main Nok's hit = 66, full sneak, but extra hit from gloves for + 1d6 acid, no longer sneak dice, but 1d6 from Precise Strike is still there. Guess they forgot to fix code for team feat.

 

[ArchAngel]

Now they just need to fix paladin smite to not work with acid gloves and similar items. And not only it applies teamwork feat bonus damage and smite bonus damage, it also applies weapon enchantment from paladin multiple times. If I got a Holy enchant on and acid gloves I get 2d6 holy damage multiple times :D

But it all almost does not matter when end game Kineticist is so broken.

 

[Daidre]

Barely more broken that any poperly built high level arcane caster in any D&D game. People who like they classes balanced could try to enjoy POE, I guess.

 

[Jenkem]

I bought the season pass.. Have they said when Varnhold's Lot is going to be released?

 

[Yosharian]

Well, I do not have a time to check everything, but quick look on Alkali Gloves gave this result
Main Nok's hit = 66, full sneak, but extra hit from gloves for + 1d6 acid, no longer sneak dice, but 1d6 from Precise Strike is still there. Guess they forgot to fix code for team feat.

That's huge. Props to Owlcat. Precise Strike barely matters, really. The Sneak Attack bug was way more impactful.