Pathfinder Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Enhanced Plus Edition - now with turn-based combat

[Pink Eye]

Just do your pet build and fight wildshaped for trash.

Thats Auraculum

AT's a thing you can certainly do - I made Lorentus one for Varnhold, but kind of boring compared to chucking your staff and all the other fun of MT.

Yes, there's something very satisfying about the staff chucking animation and sound effect.

Yeet! Don't do it on any of the harder difficulties. Try it on normal.

I think he'll be fine:

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If you take Rune domain you can get two different Domain attacks. Spell Specialization on the Holy Word-type spells can make them apply to a lot more enemies.

Chaotic Alignment gives you 4 free Spell Pen from Ruin Quarterstaff.

>Chaotic Alignment gives you 4 free Spell Pen from Ruin Quarterstaff.
That sounds neat.

 

[Desiderius]

Just do your pet build and fight wildshaped for trash.

Thats Auraculum

AT's a thing you can certainly do - I made Lorentus one for Varnhold, but kind of boring compared to chucking your staff and all the other fun of MT.

Yes, there's something very satisfying about the staff chucking animation and sound effect.

Yeet! Don't do it on any of the harder difficulties. Try it on normal.

I think he'll be fine:

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If you take Rune domain you can get two different Domain attacks. Spell Specialization on the Holy Word-type spells can make them apply to a lot more enemies. Alternatively you could still do the same amount of Staff-chucking with Inquisitor but also get WIS to Initiative.

Chaotic Alignment gives you 4 free Spell Pen from Ruin Quarterstaff.

Or you could just go straight Sorc with 2 levels of Inquisitor for Staff Chucking and +10 initiative.





26 Spell Pen and 23 Initiative ain't bad.

 

[Cryomancer]

Guys, is possible to defeat Spawn of Rovagug with a mostly caster party?

 

[Pink Eye]

Guys, is possible to defeat Spawn of Rovagug with a mostly caster party?

I'm going to say maybe. Depends on the caster's builds, overall team comp, and the type of spells they have at their disposal.

 

[Trashos]

Is the number of attacks per round for a character written anywhere? I can't seem to find it.

Also, on the Attack panel of the character screen, it shows four numbers for my bonus or damage. Melee 1, melee 2 etc. Only the first one shows data, which is the data for my current melee weapon. What are the other 3 for?

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Is the number of attacks per round for a character written anywhere? I can't seem to find it.

Also, on the Attack panel of the character screen, it shows four numbers for my bonus or damage. Melee 1, melee 2 etc. Only the first one shows data, which is the data for my current melee weapon. What are the other 3 for?

It's buried somewhere in the detailed combat statistics screen. Been a while since I played.

 

[santino27]

Is the number of attacks per round for a character written anywhere? I can't seem to find it.

Also, on the Attack panel of the character screen, it shows four numbers for my bonus or damage. Melee 1, melee 2 etc. Only the first one shows data, which is the data for my current melee weapon. What are the other 3 for?

Your second question (I believe) answers your first. The other #s shown on the attack panel of the character screen for attack bonus are your other attacks. i.e you might have +15, +15, +10 or whatever (I don't have the game open, so the #s are made up)... means you have three attacks, two at full bab, one at +10 only.

In the Jaethal screenshot from earlier, she has 5 attacks, two at +41, one at +36, one at +31, and one at +26.

Spoiler

I don't recall seeing bite attacks listed as well though, at least not on that screen.

 

[Trashos]

santino27, thanks!
On the Jaethal example, why are BABs different for each attack of the same weapon?

 

[deuxhero]

Trashos
Extra attacks are gained at +6, +11 and +16 BAB. These extra attacks have -5, -10 and -15 to hit. Furious Focus (which is some mod) also removes the power attack penalty only on the first attack.

 

[Desiderius]

Is the number of attacks per round for a character written anywhere? I can't seem to find it.

Also, on the Attack panel of the character screen, it shows four numbers for my bonus or damage. Melee 1, melee 2 etc. Only the first one shows data, which is the data for my current melee weapon. What are the other 3 for?

Character, Martial

 

[razvedchiki]

SO is swordlord worth it for 4 lvls(dft strike,adaptive tactics)?
deft strike gives 1.5 dex to dmg and adaptive tactics +2 to ac and +2 to attack rolls for your current enemy.

also did anyone tried ekundayo as melee?maybe slayer?

 

[Desiderius]

SO is swordlord worth it for 4 lvls(dft strike,adaptive tactics)?
deft strike gives 1.5 dex to dmg and adaptive tactics +2 to ac and +2 to attack rolls for your current enemy.

also did anyone tried ekundayo as melee?maybe slayer?

I tried it and it was fine just a little outclassed by everything else you can do in the game. Not like there are a shortage of defensive options. Just don’t get enough for AS lvls 2&3. Shatter Confidence is a nice unique effect that would be good if more mobs used Morale/Competence/Insight boosts like players do.

I’m not sure if I ever confirmed whether Deft Strike stacks with other sources of DEX to dam or not. Don’t think it does.

Roahin’s Companion Builds at GOG forum has a Sacred Huntmaster Tandem Tripper build for Ekun that he likes.

 

[razvedchiki]

also is it possible to get the backer items in the steam version of the game?

decided to roll a mystic theurge merc,problem now is who im going to leave behind.
planning on using valerie,linzi,ekundayo,tristan and jubilost.

 

[razvedchiki]

whats the duration of dazzling display?

 

[Haplo]

Depends on how much you beat their DC. 1 extra round per each 5 points, I think. It's possible to get pretty long durations if you focus on Intimidation.

 

[razvedchiki]

is it worth it on hard?

 

[Pink Eye]

SO is swordlord worth it for 4 lvls(dft strike,adaptive tactics)?
deft strike gives 1.5 dex to dmg and adaptive tactics +2 to ac and +2 to attack rolls for your current enemy.

also did anyone tried ekundayo as melee?maybe slayer?

I tried Swordlord, it felt fun. Could have been better though.....

 

[Pink Eye]

also is it possible to get the backer items in the steam version of the game?

decided to roll a mystic theurge merc,problem now is who im going to leave behind.
planning on using valerie,linzi,ekundayo,tristan and jubilost.

>also is it possible to get the backer items in the steam version of the game?
I don't think so.

 

[ArchAngel]

I finally got to lvl 4 with my monks, they are useless until lvl 4 :D
Also I wished I knew from start that I could visit Boggard map and exit it immediately to "magically" get +1 flaming nunchaku from it.
Up to lvl 3 characters have real problems hitting and damaging enemies with DR. Also anyone with really high hit chance and none of the monks have any real defense.
At lvl 4 they get first ki powers and one of those is Barkskin lol. Now my main tank has 31 AC when I got Crane Style active.
So my plan for this team is:
1. Monk lvl 20, focus on Dex and Wisdom, going defense mostly, using fists to fight. This character is going to be a kind of a pure monk tank also doing stuns and stuff. Currently lvl 4 monk.
2. Sensei Lvl 20, focus on Wisdom. Going team support with Crushing Blow and "Bard's Song", using fists. Took Scorching Ray Ki power at lvl 4, going to be focusing less into melee combat and more into support and stunning and Ki Powers. Perception specialist. Currently lvl 4 sensei
3. Scaled Fist lvl 14, Archaeologist bard lvl 2, Dragon Disciple lvl 4 (maybe I go lvl 12 monk instead so to get AC bonus and put more into some of these other classes). Going Strength and Charisma, Quarterstaff as main weapon (it is a monk weapon so you can flurry with it). Probably going to be using lots of Enlarge Person potions and tripping enemies, also Use Magic and Persuade support for the party. Currently Scaled Fist 3, Archaeologist 1.
4. Traditional monk 12, Knife Master 4, Dualist 4. Going focus on Dex, tank+dps using Sai as main weapon. Dualist + Crane Style will be my AC boost. This character will have 7 attacks with Flurry (+1 from Haste). 4+1(H) at full bab. That should be lots of sneaks. Currently lvl 3 Monk/lvl 1 Knife Master.

At Oleg's from start you can buy a wand of Mage Armor with 50 charges, that thing is a life saver.. I hope I can find another one later. I heal by using tons of cure light wound scrolls that I buy cheap from Jhod.

 

[Desiderius]

Pummeling Style bypasses DR and gets free Trip and Pounce with Flurry.

 

[ArchAngel]

Pummeling Style bypasses DR and gets free Trip and Pounce with Flurry.

Yes but then I cannot use Crane Style which is just too good :D
Also it does not bypass it, just counts DR once but only work with unarmed. Two of my main damage dealers don't use unarmed. But these monks have serious problems hitting stuff as they are not supported by Bless, magical weapons and weapon focus, grease (and prone as a result), web (and penalty to dex as a result). All they can do it stun and everyone keeps resting that stun, RNG hates me.

 

[Desiderius]

Pummeling Style bypasses DR and gets free Trip and Pounce with Flurry.

Yes but then I cannot use Crane Style which is just too good :D
Also it does not bypass it, just counts DR once but only work with unarmed. Two of my main damage dealers don't use unarmed. But these monks have serious problems hitting stuff as they are not supported by Bless, magical weapons and weapon focus, grease (and prone as a result), web (and penalty to dex as a result). All they can do it stun and everyone keeps resting that stun, RNG hates me.

Even a friendly RNG won’t help you attack Fortitude in melee early. That will not always be the case. Dreadful Carnage + Shatter Defenses will help you hit and enemies miss a lot more, as does Outflank. Sensei will hit +2/+2 soon. You’ll get Good Hope from Dorf relic helm which will make Bless look like Guidance.

You won’t be missing forever.

Sweep the leg/Pummeling Bully is more reliable than Grease.

 

[Haplo]

is it worth it on hard?

Its very worth it on every difficulty - provided that you take advantage of it.
- Shatter Defences on all martial characters ASAP.

Optionally you may also take a level of Thug on the Intimidator to make the enemies run away for 1 round - rather messy (and simply bad for aoe aiming), but can be potent if you have a strong ranged presence and reach melees with lots of potential Attacks of Opportunity.

 

[Desiderius]

is it worth it on hard?

Its very worth it on every difficulty - provided that you take advantage of it.
- Shatter Defences on all martial characters ASAP.

Optionally you may also take a level of Thug on the Intimidator to make the enemies run away for 1 round - rather messy (and simply bad for aoe aiming), but can be potent if you have a strong ranged presence and reach melees with lots of potential Attacks of Opportunity.

I had my MC doing Thug Display from Stealth to open combat on first playthrough. It’s pretty crazy.

 

[Trashos]

While we are it, it would be interesting to hear the builds that the more experienced players had the most fun with. I am playing a Vivisectionist now, and my next build will probably be an Eldritch Scion to see if I can get part of that Kensai Mage magic, but I am open to ideas.