Pathfinder Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Enhanced Plus Edition - now with turn-based combat

[Lacrymas]

As I said, she ignores anything she can’t weaponize.

I don't know what kind of mental image you have of yourself, but when I read your comments they come off as completely absurd and delusional, like a hyperbolic exaggeration to the point of not sure if serious. Delterius couldn't be any more right with that bald eagle thing.

I don't know what has happened to Lacrymas, we used to have good conversations in the PoE threads.

What has happened to me? Have you read what you are writing in any kind of self-reflective manner?

 

[rusty_shackleford]

she

 

[Efe]

I guess we all can agree on "fuck greeks, their gods and mythology"

 

[Yosharian]

Gender bending is in fact somewhat classical, but not in a good way.

You mean gender swapping, gender bending is something else :p But they really aren't, Valerie is the spoiled rich girl who wants to do something else with her life and has the possibility to do it because she's rich. A real life example is Comtessa de Dia, one of the very few women composers to survive to this day, and she did it because she's a noblewoman with means. A woman who doesn't have that advantage has no other choice, Oleg's wife (Svetlana?) has no choice but to be an innkeeper. I'd argue Valerie's story isn't about her being beautiful, but her having the means to do whatever she wants to. Don't believe everything that comes out of the companions' mouths, or at least take it with a grain of salt, that is just their perspective. Amiri is the strong woman archetype, like the Nordic shield-maidens, and has the skill/brains to outwit the men in her life, much like Scheherazade.

Spoiled rich girl was a shit character in BG2, aswell. It's a trope but it's not a particularly great one to use in RPGs unless the character has some redeeming qualities that allow you to empathise with her perhaps, or her arc allows her to grow into an actual interesting character. Valerie is just a shit character.

 

[Delterius]

I guess we all can agree on "fuck greeks, their gods and mythology"

are you crazy, you can't fuck the greeks that is exactly what they want

 

[Trashos]

I don't know what has happened to Lacrymas, we used to have good conversations in the PoE threads.

What has happened to me? Have you read what you are writing in any kind of self-reflective manner?

Always.

 

[Yosharian]

Good God, a True Believer. Bending/swapping, same shit different day. Sexual reproduction is so widespread because it beats asexual. They both beat dying childless.

Val doesn't know what the fuck she wants. When you hate the True, the Good, and the Beautiful you're not just making a lifestyle choice you've gone completely off the rails.

Amiri is Rhonda Rousey level pathetic. All the Good choices stop her from doing (bad) things. She's the definition of false bravado. If you just stay quiet you hear her start to rightly doubt that this life is what she's cut out for.

But yeah, Eowyn, Shieldmaiden, whatevs. It's exceptional because it's the exception, not the rule. If you want to see what My Ántonia style strong womynk really looks like, see Nilak.

Eowyn is a million times more interesting as a character than Amiri though

 

[Delterius]

the reason why there are tales of 'shieldmaidens' is because they are the exception, not the rule

men kill dragons irl all the time

 

[rusty_shackleford]

how do I get a shieldmaiden gf

 

[Delterius]

how do I get a shieldmaiden gf

there's anime about it

 

[Yosharian]

>all PoE players remember Eder
I loved Eder. A down to earth scruffy fellow. I hate how they cucked him in Deadfire....

He can't be cucked if he never gets to Deadfire...

 

[Lacrymas]

I don't know what has happened to Lacrymas, we used to have good conversations in the PoE threads.

What has happened to me? Have you read what you are writing in any kind of self-reflective manner?

Always.

And it doesn't come off as entitled and absurd to you? "I want pretty nurses to heal me and big beefy studs to fight in melee, but even though I'm given the choice to make custom companions I feel like that isn't an ideal solution and would prefer they rewrite every one of the companions to accommodate my very specific idea of what an RPG party is and they just keep writing the same thing every time from this point forward". And you have like 5 other companions to choose from.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

beefy studs to fight in melee,

honestly that's kinda gay

 

[Desiderius]

the reason why there are tales of 'shieldmaidens' is because they are the exception, not the rule

men kill dragons irl all the time

Games are our literature now, for better or for worse.

 

[Desiderius]

Infinitron has deemed me Fabulously Optimistic. Finally someone who understands.

 

[Trashos]

Lacrymas, I have been trying very hard to explain to you that there is a huge chunk of the population that thinks like me. You sound as if you were surprised when Trump was elected.

 

[Delterius]

the reason why there are tales of 'shieldmaidens' is because they are the exception, not the rule

men kill dragons irl all the time

Games are our literature now, for better or for worse.

indeed and like the books of yore we should make sure our superhuman fantasy characters are held to the standards of oh wait sorry just rolled a gnome with 20 strength

 

[ga♥]

And it doesn't come off as entitled and absurd to you? "I want pretty nurses to heal me and big beefy studs to fight in melee, but even though I'm given the choice to make custom companions I feel like that isn't an ideal solution and would prefer they rewrite every one of the companions to accommodate my very specific idea of what an RPG party is and they just keep writing the same thing every time from this point forward". And you have like 5 other companions to choose from.

Wanting to have interesting characters does not seem entitled to me. Making mercs is not really the same thing.
You would be better trying to argue Amiri and Valerie are cool instead.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Lacrymas, I have been trying very hard to explain to you that there is a huge chunk of the population that thinks like me. You sound as if you were surprised when Trump was elected.

There is a huge chunk of the population that wants a shieldmaiden gf

 

[Delterius]

Lacrymas, I have been trying very hard to explain to you that there is a huge chunk of the population that thinks like me. You sound as if you were surprised when Trump was elected.

I'm sorry to say that traditional western culture is founded on christianity and there are no anime girl clerics here, unless you're a calvinist devil worshipper.

Personally we should never give in to degenerates.

 

[Lacrymas]

Lacrymas, I have been trying very hard to explain to you that there is a huge chunk of the population that thinks like me. You sound as if you were surprised when Trump was elected.

So what if there is a huge chunk of the population that thinks like you? [citation needed] of course, but that's not the point. A huge chunk also like Call of Duty, should that be a template of what games should be like? I really don't see what you are arguing here. Are you arguing that *specifically* PF:K should be like what you are describing or all/most other RPGs that come out? What if the developers themselves don't want to write about big beefy studs fondling the shaft of their swords? And where do you draw the line for taking into account big chunks of the population?

 

[Trashos]

I'm sorry to say that traditional western culture is founded on christianity and there are no anime girl clerics here, unless you're a calvinist devil worshipper.

Personally we should never give in to degenerates.

Sexy nurses is a honorable western tradition though. I think we can work out a satisfying compromise.

 

[Desiderius]

Lacrymas, I have been trying very hard to explain to you that there is a huge chunk of the population that thinks like me. You sound as if you were surprised when Trump was elected.

There is a huge chunk of the population that wants a shieldmaiden gf

Which was my point as to what is driving all the gender bending but to The Lidless Eye I’m still just David Duke.

Everyone thinks they want one until they get one.

 

[Delterius]

I'm sorry to say that traditional western culture is founded on christianity and there are no anime girl clerics here, unless you're a calvinist devil worshipper.

Personally we should never give in to degenerates.

Sexy nurses is a honorable western tradition though. I think we can work out a satisfying compromise.

A femoid cleric in your party would possibly rise to a position of power, such as the town's High Priest. In Western Christian Terms that would be Bishop or Metropolitan of your town. Such a thing is a betrayal to everything that Jesus and the ancient pederasts of Rome stood for. If that is not a dealbreaker, then what is?

 

[Lacrymas]

You don't get it, Delterius, the traditions and archetypes are only valid when they cater to my specific desires, everything else is an exception, therefore bad. There just aren't enough nubile young sexy white boys.