Pathfinder Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Enhanced Plus Edition - now with turn-based combat

[ArchAngel]

No way. I need screenshots.

I always (ab)used this. I know it is the case, because it always worked for me (can easily be checked in the combat log), couple months ago when I played that DLC dungeon it was still so. I won't reinstall the game to make a screenshot. It's possible to find other people's screenshot though: https://i.imgur.com/K91pcgR.png
With many weapons it actually only works when the mainchar is doing it, but not for companions.

I know you can put weapons with active ability into secondary slots and activate their abilities easily but I never noticed this about their passive abilities always being active.

 

[Yosharian]

OWLCAAAAAAAT

 

[ArchAngel]

Btw found more bugs with monks lol. Hammerhand style ability is very buggy. When enemy has DR it is counted as separate attack and does not gain your unarmed attack DR ignoring abilities. So if you are attacking Fey and your fists ignore Cold Iron DR, your Hammerhand style will still get reduced.
Also if Hammerhand is active and you try to use Crushing attack feat your guy does animation but does not do crushing attack. No attack roll is done and no penalty to AC is applied..

Using monks with all these bugs is very irritating. I might need to switch back to my other 4 man run before I decide to quit PKM..

Also another bug I found with Archaeologist "song", lingering song feat does not work with it even with description saying all bard song feats should. At least Extra Song feat worked.

 

[Desiderius]

I’ve been reporting the Archaeologist’s/Lingering thing for nearly a year. Been wanting to play MC Archaeologist since I got the game. Still waiting.

It must be coded as Bardic Performance for feat purposes (or Lingering wouldn’t be available), but not in combat. One of those basic unfixed bugs that let you know no one on the update team is actively playing.

 

[purpleblob]

I find it odd that this game garnered enough votes to win the RPG Codex GOTY 2018 award yet in the time duration from then until now, Nobody has yet to submit an "official" review (like the one that Darth Roxor penned for POE) for this game?

Not a single one?

Is this really how this supposedly prestigious site for crpgs conduct itself?

How disappointing.

There's RPGWatch review

https://www.rpgwatch.com/articles/pathfinder--kingmaker-preview-420.html

 

[ArchAngel]

I would write a review if I wasn't so lazy (and someone would need to do a proper editing pass on it :D).

 

[Desiderius]

I would write a review if I wasn't so lazy (and someone would need to do a proper editing pass on it :D).

I edit my wife’s papers and speeches. Get off your ass and write something and I’ll make it presentable.

 

[ArchAngel]

I would write a review if I wasn't so lazy (and someone would need to do a proper editing pass on it :D).

I edit my wife’s papers and speeches. Get off your ass and write something and I’ll make it presentable.

Let me finish EE version once and I will think about it. It would be unfair to write something based only on non EE content.

 

[Pink Eye]

Btw found more bugs with monks lol. Hammerhand style ability is very buggy. When enemy has DR it is counted as separate attack and does not gain your unarmed attack DR ignoring abilities. So if you are attacking Fey and your fists ignore Cold Iron DR, your Hammerhand style will still get reduced.
Also if Hammerhand is active and you try to use Crushing attack feat your guy does animation but does not do crushing attack. No attack roll is done and no penalty to AC is applied..

Using monks with all these bugs is very irritating. I might need to switch back to my other 4 man run before I decide to quit PKM..

Also another bug I found with Archaeologist "song", lingering song feat does not work with it even with description saying all bard song feats should. At least Extra Song feat worked.

OWLCAAAAT!

 

[Desiderius]

What's PC about them? Their quest show that it's all facade... underneath they are broken, fucked up and mostly miserable. Orc in my ending literally partied so hard he ruined what's left of his life.

Maybe that's it, maybe it's what you and Desiderius are saying - maybe it's that there's something a bit cheeky and subversive about the use of PC tropes in this game. Now that I think about it, even outside the PC/non-PC question, there are lots of bits of the story that turn out genuinely sad and/or have irresolvable dilemmas.

It's a bit like GRRM's writing, in that while there's still a kind of slight overall weighting towards the Good, the resolutions are often somewhat "sticky," or bittersweet, with a sting in the tail, never quite fully satisfying expectations. I think even with the PC stuff in this game, it never quite goes the way you'd expect it to go. But it's not done in a mechanical way, like, "Hurr durr Ima not satisfy your expectations, nyer nyer!" (like, say in that last execrable Star Wars movie). It's organic, and in retrospect seems inevitable.

As I say, actually quite good writing.

[Later thought: reading in the TW3 thread, I'm reminded of the Baron's story in TW3 - at first you're led to think of it in Feminist terms, the Baron seems like the archetype of "toxic masculinity," but as the story unfolds, you start thinking of it in a deeper and more nuanced way.]

I don’t think the Good is a meaningful concept for Martin nor for many of his fans for that matter. In that respect he’s like Pullman and all are slightly worse for having read him. Martin is the anti-Tolkien and Pullman the anti-Lewis.

This game leans decidedly Inkling-ward.

 

[Desiderius]

Alright you geniuses I need some help. I’ve seen a pic of a unique Throwing Axe at Flintrock Grassland that I’ve been unable to discover. Has anyone else found it?

 

[Pink Eye]

Alright you geniuses I need some help. I’ve seen a pic of a unique Throwing Axe at Flintrock Grassland that I’ve been unable to discover. Has anyone else found it?

Welp, that's not good. First google search leads me back to your thread. Out of luck there.

 

[Desiderius]

Alright you geniuses I need some help. I’ve seen a pic of a unique Throwing Axe at Flintrock Grassland that I’ve been unable to discover. Has anyone else found it?

Welp, that's not good. First google search leads me back to your thread. Out of luck there.

I’m just trying to remember where I saw the pic.

 

[santino27]

Alright you geniuses I need some help. I’ve seen a pic of a unique Throwing Axe at Flintrock Grassland that I’ve been unable to discover. Has anyone else found it?

Welp, that's not good. First google search leads me back to your thread. Out of luck there.

I’m just trying to remember where I saw the pic.

The google doc just says it's in a bag in Flintrock Grasslands in final chapter.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1u97TsUG8ea4iRJlKRglYJEUj1_-fv2IdD4mugopvzz4/htmlview#

 

[Desiderius]

Alright you geniuses I need some help. I’ve seen a pic of a unique Throwing Axe at Flintrock Grassland that I’ve been unable to discover. Has anyone else found it?

Welp, that's not good. First google search leads me back to your thread. Out of luck there.

I’m just trying to remember where I saw the pic.

The google doc just says it's in a bag in Flintrock Grasslands in final chapter.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1u97TsUG8ea4iRJlKRglYJEUj1_-fv2IdD4mugopvzz4/htmlview#

Many thanks - I can now proceed with my game.

KK Val came off the bench to grudgingly rescue Amiri and got off some sweet Bowling/Entangling Magma/Earth Whirlwinds on all those Barb Dorks and Giants. 10 points of burn baby! Too bad Val’s stats suck.

She’s about out of patience now searching for a non-existent Throwing Axe.

 

[Delterius]

I find it odd that this game garnered enough votes to win the RPG Codex GOTY 2018 award yet in the time duration from then until now, Nobody has yet to submit an "official" review (like the one that Darth Roxor penned for POE) for this game?

Not a single one?

Is this really how this supposedly prestigious site for crpgs conduct itself?

How disappointing.

I think gregz was gonna do it but then he hated the mid to endgame so much we all agreed it was best he saved soul for everyday living instead.

 

[Pink Eye]

I find it odd that this game garnered enough votes to win the RPG Codex GOTY 2018 award yet in the time duration from then until now, Nobody has yet to submit an "official" review (like the one that Darth Roxor penned for POE) for this game?

Not a single one?

Is this really how this supposedly prestigious site for crpgs conduct itself?

How disappointing.

It doesn't help that the early game IS rough for new players.

 

[Pink Eye]

I find it odd that this game garnered enough votes to win the RPG Codex GOTY 2018 award yet in the time duration from then until now, Nobody has yet to submit an "official" review (like the one that Darth Roxor penned for POE) for this game?

Not a single one?

Is this really how this supposedly prestigious site for crpgs conduct itself?

How disappointing.

I think gregz was gonna do it but then he hated the mid to endgame so much we all agreed it was best he saved soul for everyday living instead.

Apparently they changed the House at the End of Time. More specifically they changed where you spawned after entering the well. It used to be that you'd spawn in the basement. They changed it so you spawned close to the companions.

 

[cruel]

If you spent four hours on character creation then read this:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/640820/discussions/7/1630790506920383184/

and start on Normal since the beginning just past the intro is the hardest part anyway. You can always kick it up when it gets too easy and/or subsequent playthroughs. I play most of the game on Unfair now but still start out Challenging/Hard.

Wow, I was sure that this is patched, but it seems it still applied. How in hell a significant bug like this still exists, and so early in the game? It seems like a very basic fix, divide total experience by current amount of party members And here I thought that I will have no or close to zero bugs when playing. silly me. Thanks for the info.

20 is too costly though. Should have went with 19. Same final result.

Some builds also enjoy the Aasimar wings. Not necessarily sorcerers, though.

Why 19, not 20? I was expecting +5 from levels and +5 from some magic cape or something, for a nice total of CHA 30 at the end? I'm still early and can change it.

 

[Pink Eye]

If you spent four hours on character creation then read this:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/640820/discussions/7/1630790506920383184/

and start on Normal since the beginning just past the intro is the hardest part anyway. You can always kick it up when it gets too easy and/or subsequent playthroughs. I play most of the game on Unfair now but still start out Challenging/Hard.

Wow, I was sure that this is patched, but it seems it still applied. How in hell a significant bug like this still exists, and so early in the game? It seems like a very basic fix, divide total experience by current amount of party members And here I thought that I will have no or close to zero bugs when playing. silly me. Thanks for the info.

20 is too costly though. Should have went with 19. Same final result.

Some builds also enjoy the Aasimar wings. Not necessarily sorcerers, though.

Why 19, not 20? I was expecting +5 from levels and +5 from some magic cape or something, for a nice total of CHA 30 at the end? I'm still early and can change it.

>Wow, I was sure that this is patched, but it seems it still applied. How in hell a significant bug like this still exists, and so early in the game? It seems like a very basic fix, divide total experience by current amount of party members And here I thought that I will have no or close to zero bugs when playing. silly me. Thanks for the info.
Yeah... Really makes you think. This ends up screwing most new players, and prolonges progress to the level 3 power spike. Thus preventing them from doing level 3 content. Most experienced players will seek out other venues for exp instead. Like grinding out random encounters near Olegs, as they are pathetically easy. Or rush to Old Sacymore to kill those wolf things.

 

[Desiderius]

Can use those last 4 pts to get 4 ranks in something else. More efficient to use five in game to round off an odd stat or three.

 

[Pink Eye]

If the devs played through the game once, they would have noticed this simple issue then fixed it. I don't know WHY the devs HAVEN'T fixed the exp thing. It's been a year or so.....

 

[Desiderius]

If you spent four hours on character creation then read this:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/640820/discussions/7/1630790506920383184/

and start on Normal since the beginning just past the intro is the hardest part anyway. You can always kick it up when it gets too easy and/or subsequent playthroughs. I play most of the game on Unfair now but still start out Challenging/Hard.

Wow, I was sure that this is patched, but it seems it still applied. How in hell a significant bug like this still exists, and so early in the game? It seems like a very basic fix, divide total experience by current amount of party members And here I thought that I will have no or close to zero bugs when playing. silly me. Thanks for the info.

20 is too costly though. Should have went with 19. Same final result.

Some builds also enjoy the Aasimar wings. Not necessarily sorcerers, though.

Why 19, not 20? I was expecting +5 from levels and +5 from some magic cape or something, for a nice total of CHA 30 at the end? I'm still early and can change it.

>Wow, I was sure that this is patched, but it seems it still applied. How in hell a significant bug like this still exists, and so early in the game? It seems like a very basic fix, divide total experience by current amount of party members And here I thought that I will have no or close to zero bugs when playing. silly me. Thanks for the info.
Yeah... Really makes you think. This ends up screwing most new players, and prolonges progress to the level 3 power spike. Thus preventing them from doing level 3 content. Most experienced players will seek out other venues for exp instead. Like grinding out random encounters near Olegs, as they are pathetically easy. Or rush to Old Sacymore to kill those wolf things.

Someone explained it as “saving up” those points for your new companions as you meet them, which makes sense - if you turn off the default then new companions join at zero. There’s something to be said for embracing the suck and reliving Pool of Radiance early game, but it leads to a lot of bellyaching from new players.

 

[Desiderius]

If the devs played through the game once, they would have noticed this simple issue then fixed it. I don't know WHY the devs HAVEN'T fixed the exp thing. It's been a year or so.....

I think it’s actually working as intended. Endurance not giving Athletics and Depths inventory not updating, those are egregious.

 

[Pink Eye]

If the devs played through the game once, they would have noticed this simple issue then fixed it. I don't know WHY the devs HAVEN'T fixed the exp thing. It's been a year or so.....

I think it’s actually working as intended. Endurance not giving Athletics and Depths inventory not updating, those are egregious.

Meh, I'm of the opinion it's not working as intended. Considering we haven't had a dev response on this issue, therefore whether it is working or isn't is anyone's guess.