Pathfinder Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Enhanced Plus Edition - now with turn-based combat

[Technomancer]

I'm leaning towards the freedom one to negate Wild Hunt cheese endgame.

Can't you get immunity or resistance to paralyze from spells? You can't get party-wide immunity to death effects without that ability.

 

[Shadenuat]

The better one is Guarded Hearth. But generally, while one against Death can protect u against some stuff like idk, lich cyclops; super sorc; nyrissa etc etc (wail of banshee boss spammers), freedom for rounds/cleric is just not enough - you'll face whole levels of wh and fight them for hours, will have to rely on saving throws/items (which there are many)/spell anyway.

I guess it's ok in a pinch against final boss if you screw up and get dispelled but then if you do you're at bad position anyway.

Another one going for Death is that if you're eccleteurge you can fill extra slots with some better spells. In game death ward is just +save and I think there's only one item that gives you immunity, so it's simply a more unique thing to have.

 

[Desiderius]

The better one is Guarded Hearth. But generally, while one against Death can protect u against some stuff like idk, lich cyclops; super sorc; nyrissa etc etc (wail of banshee boss spammers), freedom for rounds/cleric is just not enough - you'll face whole levels of wh and fight them for hours, will have to rely on saving throws/items/spell anyway.

I guess it's ok in a pinch against final boss if you screw up and get dispelled but then if you do you're at bad position anyway.

Another one going for Death is that if you're eccleteurge you can fill extra slots with some better spells.

Guarded Hearth is once per rest. Inspiring Command (Nobility Domain via Abadar) is WIS + 3 per rest, lvl/2 rounds per use, and you get a short-term Heroism for skills/attacks in first ability.

 

[Desiderius]

I'm leaning towards the freedom one to negate Wild Hunt cheese endgame.

Can't you get immunity or resistance to paralyze from spells? You can't get party-wide immunity to death effects without that ability.

Don't really need either one. Blindfight or Tremorsense give gaze immunity. Freedom of Movement is easy to get, and Death Ward not much harder.

 

[Shadenuat]

Eh I don't think taking Blindfight is that needed anymore. They fixed level 1 druid spell and other effects, and during endgame you will have 3-4 items that give you freedum.

 

[Desiderius]

+2 Attack and AC, Groupwide, Insight (stacks with almost everything).

 

[Shadenuat]

Yeah I played Nobility Inquis. Not exactly everything though, even some items like artisan stuff have Insight boosts to them. It is good for constant stacking but it doesn't change encounters in principle.

 

[Yosharian]

Eh I don't think taking Blindfight is that needed anymore. They fixed level 1 druid spell and other effects, and during endgame you will have 3-4 items that give you freedum.

I count two items. And that's endgame.

Blind-Fight protects against Gaze, not sure why you think it's not needed.

 

[Yosharian]

Freedom of Movement can be dispelled, this aura cannot. That is why I'm interested in it

 

[Shadenuat]

Well there's about 2 mobs with gaze afaik it's medusae and wh. Medusae you meet... 2 times? 3?

Dispel, players whined too much and Owlcats took away Monarch AoE dispel, they now only can single target.

Items, minimum 2 ring types (and I believe you can find more than 1 same ring), and Regongar cloak (or is it only confusion?), and DLC boss super cloak. And I think there's something else? I just remember that during last pthru I cast freedum on 2 companions and 1 pet.

 

[Yosharian]

The better one is Guarded Hearth. But generally, while one against Death can protect u against some stuff like idk, lich cyclops; super sorc; nyrissa etc etc (wail of banshee boss spammers), freedom for rounds/cleric is just not enough - you'll face whole levels of wh and fight them for hours, will have to rely on saving throws/items (which there are many)/spell anyway.

I guess it's ok in a pinch against final boss if you screw up and get dispelled but then if you do you're at bad position anyway.

Another one going for Death is that if you're eccleteurge you can fill extra slots with some better spells. In game death ward is just +save and I think there's only one item that gives you immunity, so it's simply a more unique thing to have.

I already have Guarded Hearth, it's for boss fights obviously. And so is the Liberation ability.

But I take your point about the amount of fights against Wild Hunt endgame. Resting is difficult/undesirable?

Resistance to death effects vs immunity - good point, I suppose it gives immunity to Wail and other things.

 

[Yosharian]

Well there's about 2 mobs with gaze afaik it's medusae and wh. Medusae you meet... 2 times? 3?

Dispel, players whined too much and Owlcats took away Monarch AoE dispel, they now only can single target.

Items, minimum 2 ring types (and I believe you can find more than 1 same ring), and Regongar cloak (or is it only confusion?), and DLC boss super cloak. And I think there's something else? I just remember that during last pthru I cast freedum on 2 companions and 1 pet.

Pretty sure Regongar's cloak is only fear/confusion.

What's the DLC cloak name?

 

[Shadenuat]

uhh skin of beast? I think that was name.

 

[Technomancer]

DLC boss super cloak.

What's the DLC cloak name?

Time to save the day. I've been compiling loot from the debth since no one in the net gives a fuck to do it himself, seems like a good time to finally post it:

 

[Yosharian]

uhh skin of beast? I think that was name.

Cloak of the Lion?

 

[Shadenuat]

Yep technomancer^^^

thing is to get it you need to finish DLC dungeon with "true" ending, otherwise it won't spawn. You'll only get mace, ring and something else then.

 

[Yosharian]

Yep technomancer^^^

thing is to get it you need to finish DLC dungeon with "true" ending, otherwise it won't spawn. You'll only get mace, ring and something else then.

Interesting.

 

[Technomancer]

Cloak of the Lion?

Nah, its not from the boss, that's Varnhold stuff.

Interesting.

It also changes your model making you looking fugly. Or cool, depends on relative perception of beauty.

 

[DalekFlay]

I'm at level 11 and just steamrolling evvvvvverything. Hopefully some challenge coming again soon.

 

[Desiderius]

There's a lot of solutions to everything (especially paralysis) except critically failing Ghost Mage Plague Storm then having to Remove the Blindness or whatever. I do just take Blindfight on most toons for convenience sake as all Wild Hunt have a gaze of some sort.

Yeah I played Nobility Inquis. Not exactly everything though, even some items like artisan stuff have Insight boosts to them. It is good for constant stacking but it doesn't change encounters in principle.

Constant stacking changes every encounter in fact. +2 AB/+2 AC to everybody, 10 uses per rest is big game. Skills too when you need it.

 

[Desiderius]

Back to regularly scheduled programming:

Look what just showed up (before Goblin Fort):

Looks like Amiri isn't going best available after all. Lvl 11 coming up for Exotic Proficiency. Or maybe Jaethot off the bench for the first time?

Played this game way too many times and first time I've seen this:

There are ten times more random encounters in CH 2 and 3 than in the whole rest of the game.

So this is weird:

That random 42 damage is the Alchemical Weapon damage from the Critical Hit below it. And it does multiply. If you have enough flasks you're getting an extra attack a turn that picks up all added damage from Bard Songs and the like which then gets multiplied on crits.

This is why Boneshatter (lvl 5 Cleric Spell, Necromancy school) is such a good spell. Exhausted (-6 DEX/STR) on failed save, Fatigue on made:

Smilodon tanking with help from Slow from Linzi. Hmm, looking like Flytrap is immune to the Staggered part.

Val's been tanking with Image and just spamming Frigid Touch (no save, longer duration on crit) to stagger everyone. Linzi lands an Overwhelming Grief - prevents attacks and softens mobs up to be finished off quickly.

Note to Harrim: Bring anti-Reflex spells to VTomb. And your high saves.

Sound Burst great way to interrupt Fae casters. Got two at once here. Bought the time needed to charge over and take them out:

For some reason those Tricksters were on the Acid Splash plan instead of their normal Confusion. Must have been hanging with Octavia.

And last but not least Nok-nok still kocking heads. Hard. More artisanal goodness (Troublemaker dagger).

 

[Desiderius]

Time to save the day. I've been compiling loot from the debth since no one in the net gives a fuck to do it himself, seems like a good time to finally post it:

Couple more (and Reg's Cloak):

 

[Technomancer]

Couple more (and Reg's Cloak):

Fucking spot check

Where can you find Tormentor?

 

[Yosharian]

Why the fuck does Sacred Huntsman get Judgement at level 19 except it doesn't even get it? I just tested it and you receive nothing at level 19, lol

 

[Seari]

Does anyone know where you get the Apex Predator helmet?