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Pathfinder Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Enhanced Plus Edition - now with turn-based combat

Discussion in 'Owlcat Games' started by Elex, Nov 20, 2018.

  1. Sykar Arcane

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    I see it regularly even in act 1. Skeletons, especially champions, and zombies, also champions, love to switch targets after a few rounds, sometimes even right away.

    Yes I am planning to do a Dhampir and Fetchling build, though not sure yet what classes to pick. Fetchlings biggest drawback is that it does not get any attribute bonus.
     
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  2. amurath Educated

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    It looks like Kingmaker is finally coming to console: https://www.trueachievements.com/products/44456/Pathfinder-Kingmaker. While a bit of a decline in some ways, I hope they release the final major patch they've been working on for the PC version. I also wonder if they're going to introduce an official turn-based mode for the console release.
     
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  3. trimethylsilyl Educated

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    What the fuck is the deal with the Autumn/Summer Golems' rolls? I just saw them roll natural 20 on all Reflex and Fortitude save rolls - consistently. After googling, it seems others have noticed that as well. Is this a feature or a bug?

    On a slightly related note, I really dislike the House at the Edge of Time. Up until this chapter I really loved this game (as in one of the best games I've ever played), but now I'm just annoyed and losing my patience. It's not that it's difficult (I like difficult RPGs), it's just the sudden massive change in difficulty, as well a shitload of really long, boring encounters.
     
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  4. Yosharian Magister

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    It could be that they have 'roll twice, take the best result' on their saves, not sure why they would have that though
     
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  5. trimethylsilyl Educated

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    That still doesn't make sense, as I literally saw 20 natural 20 rolls in a row (4 golems, 5 spells with Fortitude and Reflex saves), also I didn't see that ability while inspecting them
     
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  6. Yosharian Magister

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    20? Hmm
     
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  7. Crichton Prophet

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    I've seen several sources claim that it represents some defense that plants have in P&P. Not being a P&P Pathfinder player, I can't confirm that. Obviously the game should explain WTF is going on regardless.
     
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  8. Yosharian Magister

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    So my question would be, what are you casting on them
     
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  9. Pink Eye Monk Patron

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    Heya! I made a bunch of videos! Early Unfair from level one to three complete! Here's a playlist!
     
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  10. trimethylsilyl Educated

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    That's informative, and it makes sense - but they for sure weren't spell effects that were listed in the Inspect menu. I agree with your last sentence though, it's weird that the devs makes a point to explain everything via the Inspect menu, but then suddenly stop doing that for certain enemies.
     
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  11. amurath Educated

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    So, it looks like Owlcat is adding turn-based mode to Kingmaker after all: https://imgur.com/RPYdwMU. I wonder if they'll make any improvements on the current turn-based mod.
     
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  12. InD_ImaginE Arcane Patron

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    If they want to officially add TB mode better rewrite their AI behavior because it doesn't work at all with the mod. They still retardedly bum rush you every time which is an issue because they can't calculate attack range, they can't calculate movement range, they don't consider action economy at all which makes the game stupidly easy. They don't work with each other (this is less an issue in RtwP, e.g. where rogue and fighter ended arriving more or less at the same time in RtwP they will walk willingly into your position to die one by one in TB). They walk through CC spells like in real-time while players fine-tune their movement.

    And make the player and AI are capable of using the same tools (Delay, 5 feet movement to full attack abuse, precise positioning). If those tools are not available to AI then it should not be available to players.
     
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  13. razvedchiki Liturgist

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    especially that the ai doesnt use the 5 feet step fucks the melee mobs really hard on higher lvls.
     
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  14. Desiderius Found your egg, Robinett, you sneaky bastard Patron

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    Finally made it to an interesting place in first (and probably last for now) modded playthrough.

    MC is Aldori Defender/Swordlord Disarming tank/stud with everyone else having builds tailored to attack the specific weaknesses of the principal threats of each Chapter.

    Here we have Linzi Bard to attack Will (will have Sorc splash later), Amiri Freebooter to swing Trollreaper and boost team (will have Greater Bull Rush soon to proc AoOs), Harrim Warpriest to tank and focus on Dirty Trick:Blind, Ekun for Devourer and Okbo using CotW to boost his Trips, and Jewb to buff everyone, here giving Harrim True Strike to land his Dirty Trick. That was the plan anyway.

    Stunning Barrier Hargulka.jpg
    Harrim's 42 AC just not enough against big Hargulka blows, but Stunning Barrier doing its work. It stays on until it works so is a nice spell on tanks. He also had Resinous Skin from Jewb (that's the Reflex save).

    Hargulka debuff.jpg
    Once Hargulka is Stunned he didn't have much of a chance, but really if any of these CMs hit he's toast, and Linzi adds insult to injury landing Overwhelming Grief as well. Her DC is already 19 and will be mid20s or more by midgame. Harrim's True Strike ran out by the time he got to attack but 29 CMB at level 8 will usually get the job done anyway.

    MC Swordlord Tartuk.jpg

    +36 AB at level 8 pretty solid and 35 damage not too shabby either. Will be able to get Image from Shared Spells in time for VTomb. Looking forward to Disarming a bunch of Zombie Giants.
     
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  15. Darko Educated

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    Recently finished VTomb on unfair, the whole chapter is made trivial by mass heal scrolls.
    Money is not a problem, still got 800k well before Rushlight.
     
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  16. Darko Educated

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    Octavia's surprise spells works with it too:

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  17. Daidre Augur

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    Where you have got Mass Heal scrolls? Iirc they are not sold anywhere at this point in the unmodded game.
     
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  18. ekrolo2 Educated

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    How good is the Monk class in this?
     
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  19. NJClaw Ontopolover by choice Patron

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    Good enough to make three thousand posts on the Codex about how good it is.
     
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  20. Desiderius Found your egg, Robinett, you sneaky bastard Patron

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    His Octavia is (at least) lvl 14 so that could have something to do with it.
     
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  21. NJClaw Ontopolover by choice Patron

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    Why at least 14?
     
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  22. Desiderius Found your egg, Robinett, you sneaky bastard Patron

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    Only class worth playing is Vivi tbh.
     
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  23. Desiderius Found your egg, Robinett, you sneaky bastard Patron

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    Surprise spells.
     
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  24. NJClaw Ontopolover by choice Patron

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    The Vivisectionist conundrum: it's obviously the strongest class ever made, but it's not worth playing (because why would you play a class that doesn't allow you to take a Vivisectionist dip?).
     
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  25. Darko Educated

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    They are from Jhod, bought soon after Varnhold vanishing started, was lvl 11 with Divine 6.
    Screenshot is a bit later, at lvl 14.
     
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