Pathfinder Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Enhanced Plus Edition - now with turn-based combat

[LannTheStupid]

I can spoil you the quest, but it is all written in-game.

 

[smaug]

I can spoil you the quest, but it is all written in-game.

What? I know the quest and I Tig just dies over and over. I can't save him?

 

[Haplo]

Get Blind Fight.

I dislike this advice. It works, but feats are more scarce than spell slots and consumables. It shouldn't be the first go-to.

Well, it's useful in fights against concealed enemies. Plus it blocks gaze attacks - also medusas petrifying instakill gaze beside the obnoxious wild hunt Paralyze spam. And it cannot be dispelled.

 

[The_Mask]

There are about five altogether IIRC.

Can't find Emerald Necklace tho..
Where do I find one?

Around barbarians.

 

[Desiderius]

Sweet Teeth also find one early.

 

[panda]

Get Blind Fight.

I dislike this advice. It works, but feats are more scarce than spell slots and consumables. It shouldn't be the first go-to.

Blind Fight is like the second best feat for melee chars after Shatter Defences.
It is not even advice IMO, I'd call it a silent "WTF are you doing with your build?" scream.

 

[Desiderius]

I can spoil you the quest, but it is all written in-game.

What? I know the quest and I Tig just dies over and over. I can't save him?

Game’s a lot easier if you keep your skills up. I know nerd commando and those guys like to ignore them but they’re really important. Pretty sure you can just cast Faerie Fire too or whatever.

Last couple times I’ve been going back to get the Bard guy first so the King comes in.

 

[LannTheStupid]

smaug

Spoiler

You need to either choose ALL good options in all the dialogues in the lizard village - or to choose ALL evil options, including sacrificing Kagar. In the former case Count Shimmerglow starves and weakens and cannot kill Tig; in the latter case the count is oversatisified and just lets him go.

 

[smaug]

Okay, I picked the good option and saved Kagar and Tig just lived this time for some reason idk.

 

[LannTheStupid]

I think the point is in choosing _every_ good or _every_ bad option. If you want just count all of them.

 

[Desiderius]

I've done it choosing the "Evil" option of honoring one's ancestors to the farmers.

There are several ways to do it.

Guess it never occurred to me to sacrifice Kagar in the first place. Why would you do that? If you go get him then refuse to sacrifice he kills the king or something then tig doesn't get hit.

 

[Trashos]

I dislike this advice. It works, but feats are more scarce than spell slots and consumables. It shouldn't be the first go-to.

I think you should bite the bullet and get blind fight on everyone (I haven't worked out whether Jaethal actually needs it as undead). By the time you get to Ch3, you start needing it more and more. In the late game, gaze attacks are bread and butter for your enemies. I have a rule that I have to take it for everyone at lvls 9-13. Improved blind fight is not required.

Can't find Emerald Necklace tho..
Where do I find one?

You can find an emerald necklace in Ch4, during the Amiri/barbarian part, in Flintlock grasslands. I just did this part yesterday.

 

[Desiderius]

Defaced Sisters have stat drain gaze that not sure can be prevented without Blindfight. Tremorsense on Kin also prevents gaze but Echolocation doesn't.

 

[bec de corbin]

Owlcat really abuses gaze attacks, especially in the House, and they house ruled blindfight to block it, so I always get it on everyone just because it's way less annoying than actually trying to deal with all the debuffs and shit

 

[Delterius]

Defaced Sisters have stat drain gaze that not sure can be prevented without Blindfight.

Aren't those death effects? I think Death Ward works.

 

[Desiderius]

I get confused because it doesn't work on Soul Eaters.

 

[LannTheStupid]

Guess it never occurred to me to sacrifice Kagar in the first place. Why would you do that?

Why woudn't I? It's a lizard.

That's why I find the personal quest of Sharel so immensely annoying.

 

[Xamenos]

Well, it's useful in fights against concealed enemies. Plus it blocks gaze attacks - also medusas petrifying instakill gaze beside the obnoxious wild hunt Paralyze spam. And it cannot be dispelled.

Dispel isn't really an issue in Kingmaker, though hopefully that'll change for Wrath. And people don't seem to be having problems with those other things. It's always the Wild Hunt that filters them, and Blindfight offered as a solution. Freedom of Movement is far more convenient for someone who's reached that part of the game after getting past all other gaze attacks.

Blind Fight is like the second best feat for melee chars after Shatter Defences.
It is not even advice IMO, I'd call it a silent "WTF are you doing with your build?" scream.

I, on the other hand, consider it a nice-to-have if you can spare the feat, but far from essential.

 

[Alienman]

I don't even remember what boss you're talking about, so I can't have found it that difficult. I can only assume you're doing something wrong, and given you missed Freedom of Movement that thing is probably not using the proper spells, be they buffs or CC. Or perhaps you've build your tank wrong and it's not nearly as tanky as it should be at this level. Difficult to tell without more information. As some sort of generic advice, I'd say you should look at every spell your party can cast and, read its full description, and consider whether it'll be useful.

The gates that lead to the Pitax "dungeon". The second wave that comes out, some guy came out and wtf-pwned my warriors and most of the surviving allied npcs. I admit that I'm not some min-maxing d&d pro gamer, but compared to lower levels when every fights felt challenging but fair, now it's countless minions until you get to the big baddie that hits like a truck - or easy enemies but they got that one annoying skill that forces you to cheese or rely on one spell. I also felt the same in the BG games, when you reach god level tier the game starts to lose me.

 

[bec de corbin]

Just cast an AoE spell on them if there's a lot of enemies

 

[Dishonoredbr]

Is any of the DLC worth getting?
I thinking about the Tiefling Girl DLC because i dig Tiefling (maybe even reset my save just to play as one) and it's pretty cheap but the rest looks pretty meh.

 

[Haplo]

Well, it's useful in fights against concealed enemies. Plus it blocks gaze attacks - also medusas petrifying instakill gaze beside the obnoxious wild hunt Paralyze spam. And it cannot be dispelled.

Dispel isn't really an issue in Kingmaker, though hopefully that'll change for Wrath. And people don't seem to be having problems with those other things. It's always the Wild Hunt that filters them, and Blindfight offered as a solution. Freedom of Movement is far more convenient for someone who's reached that part of the game after getting past all other gaze attacks.

Well, untill you try to melee Ghastly Guardians. A Wild Hunt Monarch can also dispel you if you're unlucky. Adding that it eventually runs out, costs a slot for each character - and you want it on everyone, a permanent source is handy (items with Freedom are nice).

 

[The_Mask]

Is any of the DLC worth getting?
I thinking about the Tiefling Girl DLC because i dig Tiefling (maybe even reset my save just to play as one) and it's pretty cheap but the rest looks pretty meh.

All of them are worth it as far as the fun factor goes. The Thiefling can be a pretty good Treasurer too - you get a few unique options in Kingdom management with her around. It also pushes the gnome to Minister which is extra spicy imo.
Won't spoil class stuff because I'll let you discover those.

 

[Desiderius]

I don't even remember what boss you're talking about, so I can't have found it that difficult. I can only assume you're doing something wrong, and given you missed Freedom of Movement that thing is probably not using the proper spells, be they buffs or CC. Or perhaps you've build your tank wrong and it's not nearly as tanky as it should be at this level. Difficult to tell without more information. As some sort of generic advice, I'd say you should look at every spell your party can cast and, read its full description, and consider whether it'll be useful.

The gates that lead to the Pitax "dungeon". The second wave that comes out, some guy came out and wtf-pwned my warriors and most of the surviving allied npcs. I admit that I'm not some min-maxing d&d pro gamer, but compared to lower levels when every fights felt challenging but fair, now it's countless minions until you get to the big baddie that hits like a truck - or easy enemies but they got that one annoying skill that forces you to cheese or rely on one spell. I also felt the same in the BG games, when you reach god level tier the game starts to lose me.

We’re not power gamers either but a lot of us restarted so many times before we got to Pitax that we felt like pros before we got there.

What is the one annoying skill? Are you talking about the rat room?

 

[Desiderius]

Wildcards has a lot of subtle quality of life improvements that make the game far less aggravating, especially if you’re planning on just one playthrough.