Pathfinder Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Enhanced Plus Edition - now with turn-based combat

[Dishonoredbr]

YO.. How the fuck i get out of those damn web traps. I legit wash some dishes and still waiting to get out.

 

[Trashos]

I don't really see "how to be a king" as a major theme though. It's there, but it's not fleshed out enough to qualify.

Here are my arguments in support of "How to be a King" being the main theme (in parallel with "The world is not made of things -it is made of stories", and maybe the question of Curses which I am not sure what to make of yet).

- First clue is of course the name of the campaign, Kingmaker.
- The whole kingdom management module, and importantly all the choices and consequences within it.
- Your own character is trying to become King, establish himself as a King, and deal with all the responsibilities of being a King throughout the story.

- Nyrissa, Tartuccio, Irovetti, Nilak (Amiri's friend) are also directly related to the question "How to be a King". Especially Tartuccio goes through an epic journey towards being a King in very little time.

- The question of "How to wield power" is major throughout the game. Several subthemes, like mercy (almost everywhere) and bullying (see Irovetti, Nok-Nok, most of Linzi's quest, King Lantern towards Nyrissa, arguably Harrim) are directly related to the question of how to wield power when you have it. So this is about being a "King" in the abstract sense, but still very much related.

- Submission or rebellion towards authority are also major subthemes throughout, again very much related to the question of being a King. See Valery, Amiri, Oleg's wife Svetlana, the whole Swamp Hut village etc.

In short, I believe that all the subthemes in the game are related to the question of how to a King, either directly or indirectly. Another example that I didn't get the chance to mention above is Ekun's arc, where the local theme is that of Protection, again a King's duty.

 

[Desiderius]

YO.. How the fuck i get out of those damn web traps. I legit wash some dishes and still waiting to get out.

Perception and Trickery skill.

Skills are really important in this game, don’t neglect them. A lot of experience in disarming traps too.

Once you’re stuck maybe boost STR? Touch of Good so you can pass the skill check to escape? Never been caught in one.

 

[Cleric of Asmodeus]

I love this game.

 

[Cleric of Asmodeus]

YO.. How the fuck i get out of those damn web traps. I legit wash some dishes and still waiting to get out.

I think you need succeed a mobility or athletics check and removing stuff with an armor check penalty can help.

 

[The_Mask]

Pretty sure the loyalty/mercy theme is pretty central. Going both ways as in Lantern King Nyrissa.
To some extent reducible to tit for tat/Prisoner’s Dilemma but not entirely.

Agreed, but I'd put those right under the "How to be a King" theme.

Each "ruler" has a stat that stands out. The Stag is DEX. Hagrulka is STR. Vordakai is INT. Irovetti is CHA... and so on...
The bottom idea is that to be a good baron/king, you need to be balanced.

Spoiler

Which is ironic given that, mechanically, is arguably more fun to not be balanced. hihi

 

[Alienman]

How do I kill those Wild Hunt assholes in The House at the Edge of Time? They just go unconscious. I have tried cold iron, fire, acid, lightning ??

Edit:

Okay, had to kill the leader guy. Damn, this area feels like a slog! Especially on TB.

 

[Dishonoredbr]

Yo this game is fire. I just the mage orc and dude is nuts. Also the mage girl is legit and just got Tristan.

But idk who to bring along. But certainly need a better healer.
My current team is:

MC Ranger
Harrim as a priest. bad at that..
Linzi full bard.
Rego. Best character.
Val. Meat shield
Octavia. Damage.

 

[smaug]

Yo this game is fire. I just the mage orc and dude is nuts. Also the mage girl is legit and just got Tristan.

But idk who to bring along. But certainly need a better healer.
My current team is:

MC Ranger
Harrim as a priest. bad at that..
Linzi full bard.
Rego. Best character.
Val. Meat shield
Octavia. Damage.

No stop, Harrim is not a heal bot. Give him debuff spells at the beginning. Later he will get gear that will make him a battle cleric. Tristian is heal/buff bot.

 

[Dishonoredbr]

Give him debuff spells at the beginning. Later he will get gear that will make him a battle cleric. Tristian is heal/buff bot.

I was using him mostly as buff and cc after i noticed how bad his heal is .. And yeah, Tristan is the heal/buff bot , i just unsure of who to take out. Perhaps Octavia since my Ranger already deals insane damage.

 

[Desiderius]

She gets good around midgame. Different companions are strong against different foes. You get a ton a healing potions and healing is poor action economy mid-battle so don’t really need a heal bot.

Not a tank, spank, and heal kind of game.

 

[RK47]

Yeah summoning spells are really good in this game.
And pets are really strong too.
Once you get Ekundayo, you will understand.

 

[Whisper]

Yes, you just need dedicated tank, some supports and DDs. Summoning spells to fill gaps when tank is busy or crowded.

 

[Haplo]

Give him debuff spells at the beginning. Later he will get gear that will make him a battle cleric. Tristian is heal/buff bot.

I was using him mostly as buff and cc after i noticed how bad his heal is .. And yeah, Tristan is the heal/buff bot , i just unsure of who to take out. Perhaps Octavia since my Ranger already deals insane damage.

Octavia is not about damage early on. I mean sure, she can snipe a boss with some rays, but can't do that very often.
Instead try aoe Conjuration Crowd Control. Grease, Create Pitt, Glitterdust and slightly later Stinking Cloud (with Communal Delay Poison buff) are game-changing.

 

[Chaotic_Heretic]

Give him debuff spells at the beginning. Later he will get gear that will make him a battle cleric. Tristian is heal/buff bot.

I was using him mostly as buff and cc after i noticed how bad his heal is .. And yeah, Tristan is the heal/buff bot , i just unsure of who to take out. Perhaps Octavia since my Ranger already deals insane damage.

Octavia is not about damage early on. I mean sure, she can snipe a boss with some rays, but can't do that very often.
Instead try aoe Conjuration Crowd Control. Grease, Create Pitt, Glitterdust and slightly later Stinking Cloud (with Communal Delay Poison buff) are game-changing.

She is a useless thot.

 

[Xamenos]

She is a useless thot.

Her upbringing may have made her a thot, but she is far from useless.

Dishonoredbr two clerics are probably one two many for a party. You can swap Harrim out for Tristian if you want. Valerie, Regongar and your pet will be enough to hold the line. And you can swap him back in when it's warranted, like against trolls.

 

[bec de corbin]

How do I kill those Wild Hunt assholes in The House at the Edge of Time? They just go unconscious. I have tried cold iron, fire, acid, lightning ??

Edit:

Okay, had to kill the leader guy. Damn, this area feels like a slog! Especially on TB.

Yeah, it's by far the worst part of the game. In the adventure path there's a bunch of cool stuff in the House, but they pretty clearly ran out of time and money so it's basically just the Wild Hunt.

 

[Trashos]

I much prefer Harrim to Tristian. For narrative reasons, and also because Harrim can tank if an enemy gets to your back lines. However, if this is a first/early playthrough, take Tristian over Harrim. Both for the story and for the healing. In your early playthroughs you are going to need a lot of healing.

Spoiler about using 2 clerics:

Spoiler

You probably want 2 clerics at Vordakai's tomb (Ch3) and maybe Candlemere Tower (side quest). It is overkill to have 2 clerics in the rest of the game.

Okay, had to kill the leader guy. Damn, this area feels like a slog! Especially on TB.

You can avoid almost all fights in HATEOT if you use the clouds to switch realities smartly.

 

[Mr. Magniloquent]

Harrim is a resounding "meh" in all regards. His one exception is the "Touch of Chaos" ability, which can be a boss killer. Overall, I'm having a better experience with Tristian. I've just about reached the point in the game where I don't need healing though. The essential buffs are pretty low level, and can be covered by Linzi and Jubilost, along with whatever meager healing I need.

 

[Alienman]

Harrim wins out because he is a dwarf.

You can avoid almost all fights in HATEOT if you use the clouds to switch realities smartly.

I think I went into every single wrong cloud

 

[Nano]

A 3 Inquisitor/17 Cleric Jaethal beats both of them because of her undead immunities. Also because she's the only one among them who isn't a complete bore.

 

[bec de corbin]

Harrim is fine as your cleric because all you really need a cleric for is to cast death ward and freedom of movement

 

[The_Mask]

Or you can make Tristian a Druid, get a BIG elephant and watch them all flee!

 

[Delterius]

resist energy, protect from energy, delay poison and heals are all cool

 

[Trashos]

Also Magical Vestment (I was taught about it ITT!) and Shield of Faith for the tanks and pets.