Pathfinder Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Enhanced Plus Edition - now with turn-based combat

[Desiderius]

I have no idea what the hell you're even trying to say anymore. Either you think it was cool that the Catholic Church took the children of single mothers away or you agree that in fact the Catholic church has been largely led by evil bastards for much of its history, which would seem to undermine your claim that Christianity has led to benevolent governance for 2000 years. But hey, what do I know, maybe it's also good that the Borgias poisoned people?

Can't under stand when you're determined to lord over. Let those with eyes to see do so. When you're ready to have an idea rather than an emotion we can talk.

If you're talking about R1b and all they're doing is laundry work and adoptions that's a bona fide miracle.

 

[Desiderius]

Barbarian

To the best of my knowledge, Barbarians are just there to dish out as much damage as possible before they die. That's not what we are looking for. Haven't paid much attention to them tbh (I replace Amiri as soon as I can), but their survivability does not seem to be that good. Am I missing something?

The tools are there if you want to use them. But yeah damage is the best CC.

 

[Shadenuat]

Projecting current morality on history even 100 years ago is totally retarded to begin with, world was completely different.

 

[Desiderius]

Projecting current morality on history even 100 years ago is totally retarded to begin with, world was completely different.

It's done to distract from what is happening now, which is in many ways worse, largely due to current (de-)morality.

"I role play Evil because that's the only effective way to rule your kingdom and also I enjoy it, also the church is evil because adoption so I've abandoned the faith of my ancestors because I hate evil and also because degenerate Americans on TV told me to" is a helluva take.

 

[LannTheStupid]

"I role play Evil because that's the only effective way to rule your kingdom and also I enjoy it, also the church is evil because adoption so I've abandoned the faith of my ancestors because I hate evil and also because degenerate Americans on TV told me to" is a helluva take.

’Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.

 

[Trashos]

Shadenuat, it depends on the perspective. If you want to investigate what cultures and political systems are built to last, you do not have much choice. The same goes for when you want to research how culture changes when a successful system is about to collapse (wink-wink).

Desiderius, can you do that for lvls 1-3? That's the question!
(I do not remember if AC 54 is enough at Pitax, btw, and Amiri does not have mirror image for the random hits. There is a belt with some mirror images, but it takes up the belt spot. By Pitax, I would definitely prefer to use Reggie as an off-tank).

 

[Delterius]

Teleportation doesn’t take 18 hours.

Still, the backtracking can get a bit frustrating.

 

[Desiderius]

Shadenuat, it depends on the perspective. If you want to investigate what cultures and political systems are built to last, you do not have much choice. The same goes for when you want to research how culture changes when a successful system is about to collapse (wink-wink).

Desiderius, can you do that for lvls 1-3? That's the question!
(I do not remember if AC 54 is enough at Pitax, btw, and Amiri does not have mirror image for the random hits. There is a belt with some mirror images, but it takes up the belt spot. By Pitax, I would definitely prefer to use Reggie as an off-tank).

Talwyn’s Armor prevents crits. She was fine.

Yeah, you start her with Freebooter’s Bane to start combat and she’s fine. Tank with Val and a pet, or just start on Challenging and tick it up gradually like a sane person.

 

[smaug]

This Barbarian Fight, hory shet

I hope I live..

 

[RK47]

all u gotta do is dimension door back out to the entrance n just gas the whole place

 

[Mr. Magniloquent]

Or just gas yourself, since you should be immune to poison at that point.

 

[Cleric of Asmodeus]

What's the bigger coping mechanic:
- Summons and pets
- Stinking Cloud + Delay Poison

Trashos, what say ye

 

[Whisper]

What's the bigger coping mechanic:
- Summons and pets
- Stinking Cloud + Delay Poison

Trashos, what say ye

It is tactics for bads like Desiderius

 

[Trashos]

What's the bigger coping mechanic:
- Summons and pets
- Stinking Cloud + Delay Poison

Trashos, what say ye

Well, I don't use the clouds at all (exactly because the AI cannot handle them), whereas I use Okbo, so...

Let's just say that I am a merciful King, and I am willing to show mercy to any sinners that limit themselves to just one pet. Clouds are unforgivable (unless the AI has changed).

 

[Cleric of Asmodeus]

I specced Harry into a monster tactician right before that barbarians vs brevoy battle. Level 12. I started summoning axiomites and bralanis who followed me for the next next ten minutes firing lightning bolts that would hit my whole party and murked all the brevoy allies lol.

I went from laughing to worrying about a TTK when jub got death by lawful outsider electrocution

 

[Trashos]

Hubris and Nemesis!

 

[Trashos]

smaug, the solution I have found for myself is

Spoiler

Cast a Haste and run back to the entrance to tank properly. Their ranged attackers are still a major problem, so *my* ranged attackers need to be able to outperform them.

I do not remember whether I can cast a Haste from before the dialogue or whether I cast it with my highest Initiative caster as soon as combat starts.

 

[Cleric of Asmodeus]

It is tactics for bads like Desiderius

Seems to be of the school of partywide ABs and avant garde shit like dirty trick. I don't think they are a stinking cloud story mode gamer. It's an honorable way to kill a fey, me thinks.

 

[smaug]

smaug, the solution I have found for myself is

Spoiler

Cast a Haste and run back to the entrance to tank properly. Their ranged attackers are still a major problem, so *my* ranged attackers need to be able to outperform them.

I do not remember whether I can cast a Haste from before the dialogue or whether I cast it with my highest Initiative caster as soon as combat starts.

I got slaughtered the first time then pre-buffed and prayed Nok-Nok and Water elementals would cleave their way through everyone.

 

[Cleric of Asmodeus]

Ekun gets all the love/hate on the normie forums but Nok Nok and Jubs are beasts. Jubs wrecking bosses on hard with a single volley of bombs. Nok Nok pops off opportunist attacks of like 80 damage all the time and I don't even understand what's happening but things are exploding into a rain of chunks.

I laughed when in VTomb:

Spoiler

Raven asks you who is the most worthless member of your party and one of your options is "Nok-nok. Easily."

 

[Cleric of Asmodeus]

Is there any point to the region upgrades that say "this has no effect"?

 

[Mr. Magniloquent]

Weird that people deny themselves legitimate spells and strategies. Stinking Cloud isn't like Imprisonment from BG2 where nearly nothing could defend against it. Fortitude Save or vomit for a round. Lots of things in this game have very high fortitude saves, least of which is a war camp full of mid-level raging barbarians. This encounter is not particularly hard even without it. Despite many other CCs being gimped by allowing a save every round, there is still a wealth of options. Cloak of Dreams, Archons's Aura, Mind-Fog and it's a veritable Heaven's Gate part deux. Ever bother using the coup de gras ability? Protection from Arrows alone is going to give you enough breathing room to ignore half of the opponents.

 

[Delterius]

If summoning friends and Stinking Cloud is wrong then I shall forever be chaotic.

 

[The_Mask]

Is there any point to the region upgrades that say "this has no effect"?

Yes. Do you want details?

 

[Üstad]

Is there a reason to choose sage sorcerer over regular sorcerer with arcane bloodlin other than wanting an int based class?

Also are class mods any good? Or they are unbalanced buggy trash?