Pathfinder Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Enhanced Plus Edition - now with turn-based combat

[Desiderius]

High DC is all relative. They pay well if you solve them.

 

[Haplo]

High DC is all relative. They pay well if you solve them.

True.
But I felt that usually there is enough on your (advisors') hands with only "normal" events, without those additional story questline related incidents.

 

[Desiderius]

High DC is all relative. They pay well if you solve them.

True.
But I felt that usually there is enough on your (advisors') hands with only "normal" events, without those additional story questline related incidents.

With the Wildcards points you want everyone engaged as much as possible, but they do keep getting more difficult so there's a happy medium.

 

[ArchAngel]

• Don't hunt, use rations.

DO hunt to conserve rations. Simply avoid spending more time on it then the regular rest (supplement rations with hunting).

Only purpose of hunting is to not need to carry a lot of rations as they are super heavy but if you got a high strength party it is faster to use rations

 

[Asymptotics]

• Don't hunt, use rations.

DO hunt to conserve rations. Simply avoid spending more time on it then the regular rest (supplement rations with hunting).

Only purpose of hunting is to not need to carry a lot of rations as they are super heavy but if you got a high strength party it is faster to use rations

Hunting + rations and rations only take the exact same amount of time. If you have "Use rations" selected, the hunters will get one try at hunting and then use rations for the rest. So let's say if your hunters bring back 3 rations, you will use 3 rations from your inventory and the resting time will be the same as if you used 6 rations in the first place. If your hunting is high enough there's a decent chance you won't even use rations at all and still will rest for 9 hours. This way you actually conserve rations for dungeons, where hunting is impossible.

 

[Haplo]

Use rations but do assign a hunter (preferably with good Lore:Nature). That way you don't waste time but with some luck won't spend (many) rations.

 

[Desiderius]

Ekun’s special ability also reduces amount of rations needed. Even with high STR party every ration you’re carrying is less treasure you can lug back.

 

[ArchAngel]

• Don't hunt, use rations.

DO hunt to conserve rations. Simply avoid spending more time on it then the regular rest (supplement rations with hunting).

Only purpose of hunting is to not need to carry a lot of rations as they are super heavy but if you got a high strength party it is faster to use rations

Hunting + rations and rations only take the exact same amount of time. If you have "Use rations" selected, the hunters will get one try at hunting and then use rations for the rest. So let's say if your hunters bring back 3 rations, you will use 3 rations from your inventory and the resting time will be the same as if you used 6 rations in the first place. If your hunting is high enough there's a decent chance you won't even use rations at all and still will rest for 9 hours. This way you actually conserve rations for dungeons, where hunting is impossible.

I am pretty sure that whenever I hunted, hunting took extra time. Maybe at high level hunting skill it takes less time to hunt.

 

[Desiderius]

Only if you don't click the use rations button. Then it will hunt until you find six.

 

[ArchAngel]

Only if you don't click the use rations button. Then it will hunt until you find six.

Ok, so it better to always click use rations if time is important like the original advice was...

 

[Mr. Magniloquent]

No need to rush any Chapter quest, since only timer that matters is Hilltop. Yeah you can get region a little earlier but your bottleneck there is cash and you miss out on a quest line that lets you clear Lone House twice costing you some money and a decent chunk of EXP (and a unique item you may want to use).

That's definitely a consideration. Perhaps rush is the wrong word, but I found that going to Trobold earlier was a great deal more optimal than leaving it off. Only doing Lone House once does miss out on some EXP, but the drastically diminished problems allowed me to concentrate on ranking up my kingdom stats and training advisors. I thought it was well worth the trade off. Focusing on kingdom optimization in Chapter 2 really puts you in a great position for the rest of the game.

As to rations, the weight can suck, but a balanced party can manage it. I never carry more than 12 rations, because I tend to rest twice (or less) before being in a place where I can sell. An advantage of rushing your kingdom expansion is that you're never far from a settlement. Bags of Holding also work well to counteract the weight, and I admitted use metaknowledge to rob the Crag Linorn fairly early. Also, I don't pick up anything that sells for less GP than it's weight. Must be 1:1 at minimum. Eventually you'll have to drop something, but money was never really an issue for me. The trick is to carry enough rations so that by the time you have a bunch of loot to sell, you're out of rations. This avoids weight problems and optimizes time. Galt Ragout for bonus points.

 

[LannTheStupid]

If "rushing Trobold" means losing Bartholomew as an advisor I would call it a poor trade off. At least for non-good Barons.

 

[Artyoan]

I finally finished the campaign and have been playing Beneath the Stolen Lands. Great mode, surprised it has mixed reviews on Steam and has barely been touched by the playerbase. It could be more involved admittedly but there are so many classes and the random loot drops are nice to make playthroughs feel different enough.

If they throw an enhanced version in Wrath, I'll play that shit no matter how buggy and fucked up the game is.

 

[gunman]

Is looting from baleful polymorphed enemies working now? I read it has been fixed in 2.0 changelog.

 

[Haplo]

If "rushing Trobold" means losing Bartholomew as an advisor I would call it a poor trade off. At least for non-good Barons.

No, Bartholomew doesn't need to get in trouble to become recruitable.
The important thing is that you don't prohibit his research.

He's handy to have for good aligned barons too, BTW. A convenience shop in your throne room that you visit all the time? Yes, please.

 

[Yosharian]

If "rushing Trobold" means losing Bartholomew as an advisor I would call it a poor trade off. At least for non-good Barons.

No, Bartholomew doesn't need to get in trouble to become recruitable.
The important thing is that you don't prohibit his research.

He's handy to have for good aligned barons too, BTW. A convenience shop in your throne room that you visit all the time? Yes, please.

Better Vendors

Just saying

 

[LannTheStupid]

A convenience shop in your throne room that you visit all the time? Yes, please.

I remember reading somewhere that it is not advised due to the save file system. Everything that is sold to Bartholomew forever remains in the throne room save file portion, and at least earlier it slowed down loading the room. And because the stash is in the same room, cleaning it with mods is not that easy.

May be this problem is solved now, but I am still reluctant to sell to Barth.

 

[Haplo]

Hmmm, I've read it too, I think.
Not that it stopped me.

 

[Nikanuur]

I am at the War of the River Kings chapter, and recently all the kingdom stats apart from the selected few (Military, Relations, Stability, Espionage) have started to get lower and lower all by themselves. Few weeks ago all the stats were 100+ some of them 200+, stat rank IV-V. Now half of the kingdom stats are at zero. I've 6 villages, 3 towns, 1 city all of these full with various buildings and bonuses. I've made sure none of the kingdom quests failed (I've become sick of hanging on the thread of crumbling, so I switched to easy management and I scumm save). The state of the kingdom has been Stable for all these weeks of falling scores. So why can this be happening?

EDIT
The quest about River Kings says my kingdom's gonna fall soon. But there's no timeline shown, as with all the other timed quests. I guess this is is probably the reason. That together with the Pitaxian Influence kingdom tasks. I'm going to the quest's locations, hopefully this is going to solve it.

 

[Yosharian]

Yeah it's probably that quest

 

[Desiderius]

When the Eagle shows up probably best to reload and try something different. I don’t understand how people’s stats go from over 100 to zero without them noticing. Those numbers are the whole point of the game.

 

[Nikanuur]

When the Eagle shows up probably best to reload and try something different. I don’t understand how people’s stats go from over 100 to zero without them noticing. Those numbers are the whole point of the game.

Not without noticing. They had started to drop without any usual explanation. And by the time I have finished several treks around some new territories, there was the zero thing. But it must be the Pitaxian Influence. Because everytime that appeared as a quest (repeatedly), and once it has been solved, it granted around +20 to everything. This is the only hint that makes sense.

 

[LannTheStupid]

Well, now you know how the Soviet leadership felt in 1985. "The numbers go down, and we don't know what to do! We only know it is the American influence!" I think it's another sign of brilliance from Owlcat Games.

 

[Desiderius]

Don’t go on several treks around new territories. The game’s called “Kingmaker” not “dick around like you’re the Dragonborn or some shit”.

 

[Nikanuur]

Well, anyway. King of Pitax is dead, long live the new king of Pitax. And also his fashisti- FASHIONistic advisor and chronicler bard Linzi the Great and Illlustrious and her new tool of persecu-- PERSUAsion. Oof, this heat is doing strange things...