Pathfinder Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Enhanced Plus Edition - now with turn-based combat

[Desiderius]

I've had some poorer times with the kingdom management prior to Pitax influence but nothing terrible. It was just part of the game to understand and overcome. It was cool. Now the Pitax influence on normal KM difficulty made me loose half of the stats to 0. Paradoxically, I have been traveling and questing at that time a lot, and I found out only too late. I'd even go so far as to say it was handled poorly gameplay-wise. No explanation had been given (or did I miss it maybe?) as for example with the Bald Hill attacks or the Trolls are rampaging your lands, people are revolting thing etc. And it was, sadly, the hardest negative influence on kingdom stats in the whole game.

I'm sure some people would say I should've understood that all by my self. That maybe true. Luckily, with people advising here and me trying to understand what is going on I've managed to save the kingdom. Phew.

But even with this I wouldn't say the kingdom management as boring or poor or bothersome etc. It was part of the game. It seemed quite refreshing to have a different RPG like this. It was nice to see all the little buildings growing up, making the choices with counsellors after their level rises, seeing the restoration projects or reading some more lore after finishing the curses' investigations.

And anyway:
1) As Yosharian said, it can be significantly eased by turning on the "effortless management".
2) We gamers eat frustration for breakfast so...

You missed it. This is Kangmaker, not To Dick Her III: Mild Cunt.

You snooze you lose.

 

[Stavrophore]

After playing some more i think the game is very woke, but at least it's sidetracked to companion quests and themselves, which aren't essential.

 

[Erebus]

After playing some more i think the game is very woke, but at least it's sidetracked to companion quests and themselves, which aren't essential.

If you don't feel like fighting the patriarchy, then some companion quests may not be to your liking.

Spoiler

The patriarchy is literally the final boss of the game, though.

 

[Desiderius]

After playing some more i think the game is very woke, but at least it's sidetracked to companion quests and themselves, which aren't essential.

If you don't feel like fighting the patriarchy, then some companion quests may not be to your liking.

Spoiler

The patriarchy is literally the final boss of the game, though.

The quests are on the side of the patriarchy. Beating the patriarchy is going against the grain of the quests.

Amiri: Taming of the Shrew (Working Class)
Val: Taming of the Shrew (Professional Class)
Jae: Be a mom not a thot, kill the miserable SJW who sacrificed her own kids for her career
Ekun: be a dad not a cad. Kill the thot help the waifu
Harrim: men wrecking shit that needs wrecking is needed
Tristian: don’t be a simp for some thot
Jewb: nobody lives forever (so have kids = be a patriarch)
Nok: man up and be a hero. Even Goblins can do it
Octavia: don’t sell your kids into slavery for status
Reg: cant remember but something about his tribe getting wrecked because they didn’t honor family

Main quest: ambitious chix end up hosing good men (see Damore) trying to suck up to a few old assholes.

 

[Nikanuur]

KM is pretty great. The only issue I have with it the Region Upgrades. "Royal Hunting Grounds" - no effect.

fuck you, asshole, then why put it in the game?!? Oh... you pillaged the Temple of the Elk... well tough luck, bitch...!!!

Actually wait, that sounds pretty great actually. C&C

Spoiler

Except Silverstep. No one likes Silverstep.

Not sure which they were, but I vaguely remember receiving a higher bonus (+10 to +30, can't really remember) to some kingdom stat(s) from at least two of the said. And that it has suprised me because, yea, it said "No speciall effect".

 

[Desiderius]

It was so annoying. Obviously wouldn’t be there if it didn’t do something, but never felt like trashing my game to find out what. Whole KM was mailed in at that point. Insulting.

 

[LannTheStupid]

If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

If all you are is a puritan, everything looks like having church-approved kids in a church-approved marriage.

 

[Desiderius]

If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

If all you are is a puritan, everything looks like having church-approved kids in a church-approved marriage.

I approve of games made by Russkie Puritans then. Hope they make more.

My olive branch to all the stronk wimmen simps:

 

[LannTheStupid]

My olive branch to all the stronk wimmen simps:

"Was, die Franzosen auch? Die haben uns noch gefehlt!" (C)

 

[The_Mask]

If you're wearing The Cloak of the Lion, and your alignment changes into LG, you have to unequip and reequip the item for the +3 to turn into a +5.

Not sure if this is spagetti code, or just something the engine cannot do.

 

[Gargaune]

If you're wearing The Cloak of the Lion, and your alignment changes into LG, you have to unequip and reequip the item for the +3 to turn into a +5.

Not sure if this is spagetti code, or just something the engine cannot do.

That's not really indicative of spaghetti code, probably just an oversight with item stats processing on equip/unequip. If the game doesn't have a lot of use cases for equipment changing while equipped, it's an easy edge case to miss.

P.S. I was curious so I just checked, NWN handles things similarly. For instance, if you have an item restricted to a particular Alignment and you shift from it while it's equipped, it won't automatically get removed. It's only after you remove it manually that it becomes unequippable.

 

[Stavrophore]

What build would be best against the last part of the game, ie. house at the end of time? I find it tedious with plot companions to kill these ghostly guards. They are basically immune to will abilities, can't be crit/sneak attacked, can't be poisoned. The only way i see it is literally a brute force and damage dealing spells. It's extremely annoying to rest after clearing each room.

 

[Haplo]

Buy scrolls of Mass Heal?

In general yeah, spells are your best bet. Other then Mass Heal, Stormbolts are your best bet AFAIR. Fortunately they are both on Arcane and Divine spell lists.

 

[Grunker]

What build would be best against the last part of the game, ie. house at the end of time?

if you don't mind the most boring kinds of cheese, kineticists are downright dumb. they work around all immunities of all enemies and deal the game's largest radius of aoe damage that doesn't harm allies. basically all upside no downside

 

[ERYFKRAD]

no downside

Untrue they count as casters.

 

[Stavrophore]

Pardon my lack of knowledge of DnD, but what's wrong with being counted as caster?

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Pardon my lack of knowledge of DnD, but what's wrong with being counted as caster?

Only my unending contempt.

 

[Haplo]

What build would be best against the last part of the game, ie. house at the end of time?

if you don't mind the most boring kinds of cheese, kineticists are downright dumb. they work around all immunities of all enemies and deal the game's largest radius of aoe damage that doesn't harm allies. basically all upside no downside

Actually their aoe moves do harm allies. But other then that, yeah, they are a good bet to trivialize the game, particularly with magma Deadly Earth (and maybe Cloud for good measure).

 

[Grunker]

What build would be best against the last part of the game, ie. house at the end of time?

if you don't mind the most boring kinds of cheese, kineticists are downright dumb. they work around all immunities of all enemies and deal the game's largest radius of aoe damage that doesn't harm allies. basically all upside no downside

Actually their aoe moves do harm allies. But other then that, yeah, they are a good bet to trivialize the game, particularly with magma Deadly Earth (and maybe Cloud for good measure).

Oh, I thought they did. I only used one once in my first (uncompleted save) and I almost instantly dropped it after using Deadly Earth a few times. It even killed the difficulty of one of the game's only lategame challenges - the swarms.

 

[Stavrophore]

I kept wondering why the pronouns in descriptions are all over the place. It seems owlcat just copypasted the description from original ruleset xD
https://steamcommunity.com/app/640820/discussions/0/3393916911749567819/

 

[Desiderius]

What build would be best against the last part of the game, ie. house at the end of time? I find it tedious with plot companions to kill these ghostly guards. They are basically immune to will abilities, can't be crit/sneak attacked, can't be poisoned. The only way i see it is literally a brute force and damage dealing spells. It's extremely annoying to rest after clearing each room.

They're vulnerable to Sonic Stuns, Slows, and Blinds. Force and Divine damage bypasses their damage reduction.

Fortitude is weak save for both Ghosts and Fae so late game Bard switches from Enchant to Evo. If you still have a Bard that is. You do, don't you?

 

[Grunker]

I kept wondering why the pronouns in descriptions are all over the place. It seems owlcat just copypasted the description from original ruleset xD
https://steamcommunity.com/app/640820/discussions/0/3393916911749567819/

It's been that way since 3.5 (maaaaybe even 3.0, I can't recall).

 

[Desiderius]

What build would be best against the last part of the game, ie. house at the end of time?

if you don't mind the most boring kinds of cheese, kineticists are downright dumb. they work around all immunities of all enemies and deal the game's largest radius of aoe damage that doesn't harm allies. basically all upside no downside

Actually their aoe moves do harm allies. But other then that, yeah, they are a good bet to trivialize the game, particularly with magma Deadly Earth (and maybe Cloud for good measure).

I haven't found them to be as trivial as advertised. Kiting + persistent AoEs is something that you can do in general I guess but seems like more of a pain than just killing shit, at which Kineticist is good but far from easy to get there. They don't have a ton of tools to hit with their physical Blasts and their Energy Blasts have to deal with SR outside of Pure Flame.

 

[Stavrophore]

You do, don't you?

Spoiler

Linzi died.

 

[Desiderius]

You do, don't you?

Linzi died.

Really? Pls use spoiler tags man, that one hurts.