KickStarter Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[bataille]

I've been enjoying the game so far. It's got bugs. Like, I find myself having to reset the graphics/game options everytime I boot up because it resets to default for some reason. Many of the abilities have no text or the wrong text on mouse-over. Some are buggy.

But eh... I mean, it's not crashing constantly (or at all, so far, for me), and the quests haven't been bugging out on me... so, it's mostly inconveniences as opposed to deal-breaking stuff so far.

I feel like the game gets a lot better after you rescue the EcleissiesesiiieieThurge and the two slaves, as far as party options go. The game intimated that the rescue of the former was timely, which makes me wonder if you can just be too late and he dies. It's unclear to me at this point if I'm missing any major party options.

He doesn't die but gets mauled and becomes unavailable until you defeat the stag lord (so around 11-12 hours into the game).

 

[Cnaiur]

That's cool. Do you know if you spend most time in dialogue/exploring or if you spend most time in combat?

Loading screens.

 

[Chippy]

So I've got the GOG version and am currently downloading. I've noticed they didn't bother with a manual - so where's the best place to check up on all the rules for the game?. Bit of a stretch to expect players to be familiar with the rules, and then hope game implementation is the same... they might trigger some autistic people with an approach like that.

 

[Lyre Mors]

This game is cool but it's annoying seeing everyone call the bad reviews CASUAL GAMERZ when there's, like, genuine serious problems and major bugs, some of which can permanently derail your character development. Seems like a fair reason to write a harsh review to me, I dunno

The thing is that short-sighted whining with a negative review about issues that are going to get fixed anyway - which in turn is going to contribute to taking sales from a truly inclined RPG - is not the way. Leave that shit in a feedback thread, or even a positive review. They read every single one of them, I guarantee it.

Knee-jerk hissy fits about a lack of instant-gratification is the kind of behavior that is going to one day make certain we don't have excellent games like this on the market anymore. Thank fuck the player count is staying high with this game.

 

[Mortmal]

so is this game more focused on writing or do you spend most of the time in character creation/fights?

Writing is similar to pen and paper modules, no bloated stuff irrelevant to your story and the plot like in POE .Not pretentious , everything efficient and straight to the point. Combat heavy , exactly what you would expect from an infinity engine game.

 

[Mortmal]

So I've got the GOG version and am currently downloading. I've noticed they didn't bother with a manual - so where's the best place to check up on all the rules for the game?. Bit of a stretch to expect players to be familiar with the rules, and then hope game implementation is the same... they might trigger some autistic people with an approach like that.

D20 wiki

 

[panda]

You won't be using a full plate with Valerie at level 2 though. Even if you bought it for her (and there are better ways to spend your early money - like getting a good custom character) with her 14STR she would crumble under the combined weight of a full plate + tower shield.

Idk, i want to finish game with full content at least once. And, no - she will no crumble and there are hardly better options to spend money.

On a tower shield specialist with reasonable starting stats and feats compared to Valerie:
- switch Toughness and Bastard Sword proficiency for Dodge and Heavy Armor focus = +2AC. On a tank you want to stack AC not a few more HP and she is not meant to be a primary damage dealer so that bastard sword is pointless, use a longsword instead.

She already starts with Dodge. And Toughness, while questionable, still makes some sense considering the fact that you are not getting max hp per level up.
Bastard sword is really fucking dumb though, i agree.

In addition with levels she could use even more DEX for AC but because her STR is so low you might want to raise that first which means that with levels the difference between Valerie's AC and a min-maxed Tower Shield specialist's AC will be even bigger later on.
Still not 6 or 7 points difference but even 3AC early is a big difference.

She could use a lot of things, like -8 points to charisma and -2 to INT with buffs to STR/DEX instead, true. But then she would not be Valerie - just random statbot #17532 instead.

That said, assuming a big, fat, dumb AI, you really need both for tanking. AC is great in the beginning, when everyone is running around with +1 or +0 BAB. But when you start getting to the stage where you run into trolls, you are looking at an attack bonus of, what? In the +10 region easy? You'd need to have AC in the mid-late 20s when facing them or you are in deep doo-doo with a low HP character. It is not that easy to get your AC up to that level at the beginning.

Did you play the game?
She has fucking 38 AC at lvl4 with just 3 minor buffs. She also has 19 starting CON instead of 18 max possible with her other stats to compensate 15 CHA.
She also loses -2 attack penalty from shield at lvl 5.
Like, seriously, just look at this shit.

Spoiler

But, yeah, horribly unoptimized character which totally hampers your party even on normal.

 

[glass blackbird]

I love that you can wander into these crazy encounters, I just wish there was a way to flee once you realize what you've found. I ran across a portal surrounded by perfectly doable encounters, and inside was some kind of crazy displacer beast I couldn't see--that's fine, even cool, but I'm glad of autosave

 

[Chippy]

So I've got the GOG version and am currently downloading. I've noticed they didn't bother with a manual - so where's the best place to check up on all the rules for the game?. Bit of a stretch to expect players to be familiar with the rules, and then hope game implementation is the same... they might trigger some autistic people with an approach like that.

D20 wiki

That's cool... site still doesn't tell me...
\autism.
Thanks, I'll start reading.

 

[Jaedar]

She could use a lot of things, like -8 points to charisma and -2 to INT with buffs to STR/DEX instead, true. But then she would not be Valerie - just random statbot #17532 instead.

Nah, what she actually needs is to be lawful good so I can give her two paladin levels for better saving throws.

Also, shouldn't she lose those dodge bonuses from being in heavy armor?

 

[HeatEXTEND]

so is this game more focused on writing or do you spend most of the time in character creation/fights?

I've seen the writing dinged a few times here but I really like it. The game does a good job at reacting to your choices.

That's cool. Do you know if you spend most time in loading screens or if you spend most time in loading screens?

I'd say loading screens. Fucking lazy unity devs.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

On a side note, bataille your elf-loving ways are not going unnoticed, a reckoning will come for you, knife-eared scum.

 

[Tacgnol]

The Troll King fight was pretty hard until he crit failed a fort save against blindness and got perma blinded.

Sucks to be him.

 

[fantadomat]

The worst part of the game is the fucking quest journal,it is beyond useless!

Anyone have an idea where do the quests:
"A flower in the swamp" and "Bloody craft"????

Also where is the path for "talon peak"?

 

[Grampy_Bone]

Did you play the game?
She has fucking 38 AC at lvl4 with just 3 minor buffs. She also has 19 starting CON instead of 18 max possible with her other stats to compensate 15 CHA.
She also loses -2 attack penalty from shield at lvl 5.
Like, seriously, just look at this shit.

What's dumb is that my fighter has the same AC with waaaaay more damage. Being a pure tank doesn't win fights.

 

[Sentinel]

Is there a way to edit all the creature's attributes & AC values?

 

[Luckmann]

Anyone know what is going on with Monk flurry of blows?

It doesn't seem to be working? at least I can't see the extra attack in the logs, and can't see any toggle for it either.

Now that you mention it, Octavia has the ability in her list to bond with an item and recover one used spell slot once per rest but I have not seen anywhere how to do that.

You know how clerics can spontaneously convert spells to cure/wound? It's the same, except younget to restore a spell. Compare to a bonded object in the base PnP, it's pretty boring. Would always choose a familiar.

 

[Kem0sabe]

Anyone figured out how to get your companion ai to actually work? This shit is ridiculous.

You get the alchemist companion that uses a single type of bomb, the bard companion that only uses the acid spell, the cleric companion that uses bless or heal, and that's it... The rest of the companions either auto attack with equipped weapon or use a single ability on repeat.

Even PoE shipped with better scripts that this.

 

[panda]

with waaaaay more damage

How much is that exactly in numbers?
Since i'm going to replay on hard anyway it is good to see options. Care to share?

 

[bataille]

So, in the end, I accidentally blocked the haste spell on my GREATER FOCUS: EVOCATIONS master blaster wizard...

 

[Sentinel]

Anyone figured out how to get your companion ai to actually work? This shit is ridiculous.

You get the alchemist companion that uses a single type of bomb, the bard companion that only uses the acid spell, the cleric companion that uses bless or heal, and that's it... The rest of the companions either auto attack with equipped weapon or use a single ability on repeat.

Even PoE shipped with better scripts that this.

you can right click on abilities to set them to auto use.

 

[glass blackbird]

This is genuinely a good game, though damn I wish there was a button to either speed up movement OR leave areas. Walking from my bed out of the capitol was cool once or twice but it's kind of a waste of time, and also bizarre since you can fast travel TO the throne room

 

[Roguey]

Surprising lack of feature parity with Pillars of Eternity. Those Russkies.

 

[Morkar Left]

So I've got the GOG version and am currently downloading. I've noticed they didn't bother with a manual - so where's the best place to check up on all the rules for the game?. Bit of a stretch to expect players to be familiar with the rules, and then hope game implementation is the same... they might trigger some autistic people with an approach like that.

D20 wiki

In the steam version is an OGL folder with the PKFM-reference_document.pdf with 148 pages which cover the basic rules.

 

[Kem0sabe]

That only sets a single ability to auto use on repeat.

you can right click on abilities to set them to auto use.