KickStarter Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Saxon1974]

How much SJW crap will be in this game?

Russia doesn't do SJW - that's why I like 'em so much. Haven't met a single one yet that disappointed me. Even if they managed to pull the wool over our eyes with how involved MCA was in this title, I'm hoping it will be at least as good as IWD1 with a better stronghold system than NWN2. So worth at least full price for me.

I seem to remember them talking about how they were going to be "inclusive" with this game. Hopefully that was just to appease a stupid interviewer and won't be much of that in the game.

 

[Shadenuat]

Russia also struggles to do any sort of good writing sadly.

My bet is on leveling party and dungeons. Maybe on turning kingdom into satan worshipping cult as evil mage.

 

[Abu Antar]

There are Shane Plays videos. I guess that you can sample the writing.

 

[aweigh]

Mostly I'm just looking foward to not having to decipher some unnecessarily verbose system like PoE's, i.e. one based on DnD where things behave exactly like you assume they do based off game text, while also enjoying combat encounters that don't require more clicking than a StarCraft match.

 

[Hamster]

Mostly I'm just looking foward to not having to decipher some unnecessarily verbose system like PoE's, i.e. one based on DnD where things behave exactly like you assume they do based off game text, while also enjoying combat encounters that don't require more clicking than a StarCraft match.

Don't forget about being able to actually comprehend what is going on during combat.

 

[deuxhero]

If you leave lawful good you fall.

So only a total alignment shift causes falling? In that case, how are alignment shifts done? Is it NWN style where every dialog choice shifts you slightly out of alignment? If so, how is chaotic/lawful dialog handled?

 

[Chippy]

How much SJW crap will be in this game?

Russia doesn't do SJW - that's why I like 'em so much. Haven't met a single one yet that disappointed me. Even if they managed to pull the wool over our eyes with how involved MCA was in this title, I'm hoping it will be at least as good as IWD1 with a better stronghold system than NWN2. So worth at least full price for me.

I seem to remember them talking about how they were going to be "inclusive" with this game. Hopefully that was just to appease a stupid interviewer and won't be much of that in the game.

Aww, fuck. They probably just meant that it has different races in it with different skin colours. I would have backed this but POE gave me Kickstarter burnout. I might have said this before, but I think the future of RPGs is from Poland, Czech Republic, and Russian, etc. If these Russian developers create an SJW Pathfinder game, it'll be soul crushing.

 

[archaen]

If you leave lawful good you fall.

So only a total alignment shift causes falling? In that case, how are alignment shifts done? Is it NWN style where every dialog choice shifts you slightly out of alignment? If so, how is chaotic/lawful dialog handled?

Exactly. If you make enough evil choices you incrementally move your alignment over. Some guy complained about being a cucked Paladin of Shelyn and trying to save all the bad people, which eventually gave him enough chaotic points to lock him out.

 

[Bocian]

How much SJW crap will be in this game?

Russia doesn't do SJW - that's why I like 'em so much. Haven't met a single one yet that disappointed me. Even if they managed to pull the wool over our eyes with how involved MCA was in this title, I'm hoping it will be at least as good as IWD1 with a better stronghold system than NWN2. So worth at least full price for me.

I seem to remember them talking about how they were going to be "inclusive" with this game. Hopefully that was just to appease a stupid interviewer and won't be much of that in the game.

 

[aweigh]

Regardless of the content in the end product (btw, who gives a fuck, it isn't dragon age), that's a very measured response. Definitely hard to argue with a response like that.

 

[Strange Fellow]

Regardless of where one stands on the SJW issue, it's kind of a stretch to follow up a sentence about an ass-kicking warrior woman who was kicked out of her tribe for daring to be different, with "our top priority is to tell a good high fantasy story."

 

[deuxhero]

What kind of choices gets you chaotic points?

 

[Dodo1610]

Owlcat games is based in Moscow and Moscow is not as conservative as the rest of Russia.

 

[Chippy]

I recently changed my views on SJWs destrying everything they're associated with - because if they didn't exist; Cobra Kai wouldn't have been so hilarious.
But on topic - nothing I've seen written here has changed my view or hope that this will be a great game. I only ever saw one SJW Russian that was a reporter interviewing Katie Hopkins - so x1 out of whatever the population of Russia is, and as long as she isn't making this game, means all is well.

 

[Shadenuat]

lol Amiri was exiled because she didn't want to wash the dishes? that doesn't make much sense.

 

[Tacgnol]

Regardless of the content in the end product (btw, who gives a fuck, it isn't dragon age), that's a very measured response. Definitely hard to argue with a response like that.

They'll probably catch more shit from the SJW side with that response.

Measured responses are never enough for them, they always want it all. The "respect and value every voice in the community" part is really gonna trigger em.

 

[Neanderthal]

What kind of choices gets you chaotic points?

Chaotic ones.

 

[Life of the Party]

Now that's a minefield of a question. This depends on how exactly you define "SJW stuff" -- for some people it's anything less hyper-masculine than Conan the Barbarian with illustrations by Boris Vallejo

RPGs could use a bit more of Boris Vallejo.

 

[aweigh]

OMG NUDITY *calls kotaku*

 

[Life of the Party]

Even more of Luis Royo.

 

[purpleblob]

Considering that this is Russian developed, how shitty is the translation?

I played through beta, and I think translation is decent overall - dialogues can be a bit... off at times though.

 

[Reinhardt]

Regardless of where one stands on the SJW issue, it's kind of a stretch to follow up a sentence about an ass-kicking warrior woman who was kicked out of her tribe for daring to be different, with "our top priority is to tell a good high fantasy story."

She's iconic pathfinder character. It's not like russians created her.

 

[frajaq]

And she's even the companion MCA is helping write

 

[rashiakas]

http://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo5la16?Meet-the-Iconics-Amiri

 

[Strange Fellow]

Regardless of where one stands on the SJW issue, it's kind of a stretch to follow up a sentence about an ass-kicking warrior woman who was kicked out of her tribe for daring to be different, with "our top priority is to tell a good high fantasy story."

She's iconic pathfinder character. It's not like russians created her.

Alright, fair enough. I still think that character concept is cliched as fuck, and the illustration of her holding the Berserk sword in the above link really doesn't help.
I don't have a problem at all with "strong female characters", far from it, but I do have a problem with making female characters strong by having them be insanely awesome at everything.