Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Beta Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Shinros]

Spoiler

The witch's experiment? What's it referencing?

Well the dataminer has me hook line and sinker, the stuff he's posting now? Yup, 100%. Lines up with what's seen in the Alpha and the Aeon advisor.

 

[Desiderius]

Why Stinking Cloud with good DC would not work on Tartuccio?

He’s not the problem.

In any event using persistent effects that exploit poor AI (fixed in Wrath where most bosses are Poison Immune so far) and implementation of Delay Poison is dumb, especially since he cheeses most of the game that way so gives poor advice based on the lack of knowledge he never needed to develop.

 

[Desiderius]

That's alpha information. For sake of people who don't want to know.

Spoiler

Areelu has done something to the PC in relation to mythic power, her experiment is why the PC has the mythic power.

Totally romancing her

 

[LannTheStupid]

In any event persistent effects that exploit poor AI

The question is - what is smart AI behaviour in this case? Run from the cloud so it works like Fear? Cast Delay Poison on himself - OK, but in the case you're talking about neither Tartuccio nor Hargulka have this spell. Well, they can run nauseated, so that's that, but... I just do not see good alternative to being in Stinking Cloud without some kind of an antidote.

 

[Nm6k]

Spoiler

The witch's experiment? What's it referencing?

Well the dataminer has me hook line and sinker, the stuff he's posting now? Yup, 100%. Lines up with what's seen in the Alpha and the Aeon advisor.

Can I ask for a link to the leaks

 

[Sarkile]

I recommend not reading those spoilers if you aren't in the Alpha.

 

[Cleric of Asmodeus]

The question is - what is smart AI behaviour in this case? Run from the cloud so it works like Fear? Cast Delay Poison on himself - OK, but in the case you're talking about neither Tartuccio nor Hargulka have this spell. Well, they can run nauseated, so that's that, but... I just do not see good alternative to being in Stinking Cloud without some kind of an antidote.

Smart AI would have been reading the steam forums and figured out that he should have been putting delay poison on himself and his boy Hargulka 24/7 like the pc does.

In a world where a common level 3 spell almost guarantees certain death for you and everyone you know, and there is an hour/per level buff you can have on you perpetually that will let you avoid being stinking clouded from off screen and having a kukri shoved up your ass, well you don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure that one out..

 

[Desiderius]

In any event persistent effects that exploit poor AI

The question is - what is smart AI behaviour in this case? Run from the cloud so it works like Fear? Cast Delay Poison on himself - OK, but in the case you're talking about neither Tartuccio nor Hargulka have this spell. Well, they can run nauseated, so that's that, but... I just do not see good alternative to being in Stinking Cloud without some kind of an antidote.

Mobs living in a Troll Hideout aren’t going to be nauseated by a mere Stinking Cloud. They live in a Stinking Cloud.

Immune to Nauseated for starters. Would also remove a fav way of taking out Harg (Cacophonous Call). Smart AI behavior would be prebuffing, including having a Shaman on hand for Delay Poison, since the party has been killing everyone in the place so should be on guard, especially if you did Jazon entrance.

Or yes failing all that running out of the Cloud.

 

[BarbequeMasta]

In any event persistent effects that exploit poor AI

The question is - what is smart AI behaviour in this case? Run from the cloud so it works like Fear? Cast Delay Poison on himself - OK, but in the case you're talking about neither Tartuccio nor Hargulka have this spell. Well, they can run nauseated, so that's that, but... I just do not see good alternative to being in Stinking Cloud without some kind of an antidote.

Mobs living in a Troll Hideout aren’t going to be nauseated by a mere Stinking Cloud. They live in a Stinking Cloud.

Immune to Nauseated for starters. Would also remove a fav way of taking out Harg (Cacophonous Call). Smart AI behavior would be prebuffing, including having a Shaman on hand for Delay Poison, since the party has been killing everyone in the place so should be on guard, especially if you did Jazon entrance.

Or yes failing all that running out of the Cloud.

Btw do enemies in WotR alpha prebuff?

 

[InD_ImaginE]

In any event persistent effects that exploit poor AI

The question is - what is smart AI behaviour in this case? Run from the cloud so it works like Fear? Cast Delay Poison on himself - OK, but in the case you're talking about neither Tartuccio nor Hargulka have this spell. Well, they can run nauseated, so that's that, but... I just do not see good alternative to being in Stinking Cloud without some kind of an antidote.

Mobs living in a Troll Hideout aren’t going to be nauseated by a mere Stinking Cloud. They live in a Stinking Cloud.

Immune to Nauseated for starters. Would also remove a fav way of taking out Harg (Cacophonous Call). Smart AI behavior would be prebuffing, including having a Shaman on hand for Delay Poison, since the party has been killing everyone in the place so should be on guard, especially if you did Jazon entrance.

Or yes failing all that running out of the Cloud.

Btw do enemies in WotR alpha prebuff?

They do in sense they have a permanent buff spells on them. Usually reserved to optional encounters/bosses. Usually they prebuff stuff like True Seeing, Attributes stuff (Cat Grace, etc), Mage Armor. You can dispel those effect if you have Dispel. Some spells they still cast manually in battle.

 

[BarbequeMasta]

that's great to know, thx.

 

[Haplo]

Man, this is gonna be such a hard choice. Not only selecting base class/archetype, but also Mythic Path(s) now... damn.
Trickster sure does look cool. But potentially also Aeon, maybe Legend, depending on their abilities.

And foxes get Pounce? Damn. Might have to play one... as Vivisectionist maybe? Or a Scoundrel.

 

[LannTheStupid]

 

[LannTheStupid]

Hmmm... may be I will add this figurine to my pledge...

 

[Nortar]

Hmmm... may be I will add this figurine to my pledge...

Not unless they have an "evil" version figurine as well.

 

[Desiderius]

Hmmm... may be I will add this figurine to my pledge...

Not unless they have an "evil" version figurine as well.

Smarm-that-talks

 

[Technomancer]

Smarm-that-talks

I read its creature card, the thing is bonkers. Will it be the same for MC? Like 15 DR/- and WIS to AC just for a start.

Do you have to be a spellcaster to become one or you can stack invulnerable rager 20 with it for something like 31 DR/- before any items?

 

[Sarathiour]

Do you have to be a spellcaster to become one or you can stack invulnerable rager 20 with it for something like 31 DR/- before any items?

I thought DR wasn't supposed to stack

 

[Technomancer]

I thought DR wasn't supposed to stack

It does say that

worm that walks loses any DR possessed by the base creature

but knwoing owlcat they will forget about it at first. It also says that

A worm that walks retains all of the base creature’s defensive abilities and special qualities

so not sure what that means for class passives.

 

[Shadenuat]

Here is the Arueshalae figurine

If we imagine bowstring, I'm not sure pose makes sense
Also, bowstrings were solved, by GW at least - their last elf archers do have them. Sure I can make one from wire and stuff but eh. Just make hands and bow separate or bow separate from hands.
Needs actual detail on wings like veins and stuff
Rocks on base are too banal and meh needs work

Obviously unpainted duh.

 

[Lawntoilet]

Smarm-that-talks

I read its creature card, the thing is bonkers. Will it be the same for MC? Like 15 DR/- and WIS to AC just for a start.

Do you have to be a spellcaster to become one or you can stack invulnerable rager 20 with it for something like 31 DR/- before any items?

It's not in the alpha, it will likely be very strong, none of the other Mythics have class restrictions so I don't see why Swarm would.

Spoiler

It may even end up being the strongest Mythic since it looks like going Swarm means that you

Spoiler

eat your companions

so they will likely have to compensate for that

I think Desiderius' joke missed you though.

 

[Technomancer]

I think Desiderius' joke missed you though.

I saw it just did not care, I wanted an excuse to talk about Wtw. What was the joke about, bard swarm or something?

 

[Desiderius]

I read its creature card, the thing is bonkers. Will it be the same for MC? Like 15 DR/- and WIS to AC just for a start.

Do you have to be a spellcaster to become one or you can stack invulnerable rager 20 with it for something like 31 DR/- before any items?

Hmm, so Jewb's only taking 369 damage then?

Pwned!

 

[LannTheStupid]

I think Desiderius' joke missed you though.

He is not alone.

 

[Desiderius]

I think Desiderius' joke missed you though.

He is not alone.

Not as many as the failed haberdasher one.