Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Beta Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Xamenos]

Pretty sure they can and will. Important thing is they make sure to have the exact same Poz fanfic as every other game so that everyone can stand on the same irrealistic edge together.

So, is the writing really worse than Kingmaker's or are you just trolling?

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Pretty sure they can and will. Important thing is they make sure to have the exact same Poz fanfic as every other game so that everyone can stand on the same irrealistic edge together.

So, is the writing really worse than Kingmaker's or are you just trolling?

It's more of the same. Not great, but not horrible either.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

And speaking of the writing, Lann is a true comrade.

 

[Roguey]

>Doesn't it have the same sliders Kingmaker does?
Yes. It does. In spite of that, if you're playing below hard, enemies will get killed in one hit by you. If you're playing above hard, simply maxing the difficulty settings. Enemies will one hit *you* to death. There's no middle ground. It's either stupid easy mode, or super dice rolling simulator. Kingmaker was like this too. It's like playing a silly hack and slash game, instead of a tactics game.

Depends on the build and playstyle. I liked my as-close-to-core-rules-as-possible-with-a-few-convenience-tweaks playthrough.

 

[Desiderius]

Pretty sure they can and will. Important thing is they make sure to have the exact same Poz fanfic as every other game so that everyone can stand on the same irrealistic edge together.

So, is the writing really worse than Kingmaker's or are you just trolling?

Obvious mindless trendy gender-bending. Female autist and male (sic) hyper emo art chick. It’s what that generation does in the west since they’ve read so few books. They’re desperate for their own voice but have been denied the necessary connection with their cultural heritage to find it so everything is Fyre Festival.

No reason for East to ape that since that part of West is obvious decline but chix are reliably both relentless trend followers and slow on the uptake so when you hire them to write your game and let them purge the savvy male editors like Avellone that’s what you get.

There’s obvious writing talent there but it’s just as obvious they’ve deposed any editing authority that could craft it into something compelling and meaningful.

Of course this could just be another set up for a send up but I’m beginning to think even P:K unintentionally turned out that way and it wasn’t by design.

As Trashos noted we’re yet to see the true masculine heroic archetype which is really unforgivable for a non-Western game. Where’s your Bolkonsky, Rus? Still sucking up to the French fags?

 

[Delterius]

And speaking of the writing, Lann is a true comrade.

Fun fact: sun orchid elixirs are auctioned off and you still lose the money if your bid wasn't enough to secure a bottle. Every year, Queen Gallfrey bets half the crusade's budget on making herself young. She probably funnels a lot of money from the church too.

 

[Desiderius]

>Doesn't it have the same sliders Kingmaker does?
Yes. It does. In spite of that, if you're playing below hard, enemies will get killed in one hit by you. If you're playing above hard, simply maxing the difficulty settings. Enemies will one hit *you* to death. There's no middle ground. It's either stupid easy mode, or super dice rolling simulator. Kingmaker was like this too. It's like playing a silly hack and slash game, instead of a tactics game.

Depends on the build and playstyle. I liked my as-close-to-core-rules-as-possible-with-a-few-convenience-tweaks playthrough.

Yeah, Core is a nice sweet spot once things get rolling. I played the all group buff crew one Alpha playthrough and even Hard was pretty smooth once you get past the Swarms/Gargoyles (those were barely managable on Hard for that party but definite difficulty spike). Playing Core with just leveling everyone up in their base classes and so far its great.

Is it me or there is no Sneak hotkey again?

And no work put into any kind of hyperlink system, people would again ask what does shaken do.

Tutorial (that continues well into main game if you leave it on, which most won't) is right on point, but tooltips and comprehensive help would do more good.

 

[Shadenuat]

i tried turning tutorial off but it doesn't turn off.

Seelah having Pickpocket as origin is cheeky lol. also 13 wisdom for paladin who is cha based, and no Per. knowledge world with 10 int.

 

[Desiderius]

i tried turning tutorial off but it doesn't turn off.

Seelah having Pickpocket as origin is cheeky lol. also 13 wisdom for paladin who is cha based, and no Per. knowledge world with 10 int.

Obv Prince Hal is obv. Making him a Big Black Chick like literally everyone else on the planet is doing is 2021 to a nauseating T. Tbf that one’s on Paizo. Lizzo Paladins FTW!

She has Lore (Religion) as class skill and needs all the Will she can get being on the front lines vs Demons so I don't hate the WIS mechanically.

If you check the button on the Tutorial pop up itself that worked in Alpha. I'm intentionally leaving it on to test.

 

[Shadenuat]

Reasonable feats this time though. At least no exotic weapon focus.

...I am really lazy too lazy to turn damn 3d camera all the time

Owlcats did not read roxor article on writing in RPGs and double everything with narrative descriptions. u see body = "u see body" u see portrait - "u see woman with black hair"

 

[Dodo1610]

So I finally kickstarted the beta from some nice anon. Visually it looks purdy with the lighting and shadows. Character creation...lol its going to scare away players more then kingmaker is with its 50 something classes and does a poor job telling you what is different between them. Character models need more art done.

The game definitely need more voice acting work done. See the problem with WRPGS if they have paragraphs the player has to read through I rather skip through it and read a book instead. JRPGS like Suikoden handle dialogue a lot better at MOST the player going to see 3-4 lines of dialogue on screen at once. And the protagonist is usually silent so you not reading through paragraphs of dumb shit like hows your life? you dont have any friends? Hows the weather look?

Don't worry Owlcat got you covered, the character creation UI is still WIP and they promised to add options to make it easier for newcomers. Also, Owlcat said several times that they want WOTR to have more voice acting than Kingmaker.

 

[Desiderius]

Didn’t Deadfire say that blowing budget on all that Voice acting was a mistake?

 

[Shadenuat]

Obv Prince Hal is obv..

On Ru. Seelah definitely talks a bit like gopnik from the street.

 

[Xamenos]

Well, that is her official Paizo backstory. Street rat stole a paladin's helmet, paladin died from a blow to the head while defending the city, street rat joined paladins out of guilt.

 

[Dodo1610]

Didn’t Deadfire say that blowing budget on all that Voice acting was a mistake?

Well, we don't know what more means, I don't think even Owlcat has thought that through.

i tried turning tutorial off but it doesn't turn off.

Seelah having Pickpocket as origin is cheeky lol. also 13 wisdom for paladin who is cha based, and no Per. knowledge world with 10 int.

Spoiler

They took the backstory from the NCP codex but changed her skills and upped the stats for some reason.

 

[Delterius]

and upped the stats for some reason.

motherfucker the average companion has a 32 point buy in this game

 

[Desiderius]

Well, that is her official Paizo backstory. Street rat stole a paladin's helmet, paladin died from a blow to the head while defending the city, street rat joined paladins out of guilt.

These are male stories. All MtF all the time is just sick shit. It’s a Western sickness that it’s unbelievably disheartening to see the East so defenseless against.

I mean there is an East that’s anything but defenseless against it, but Russia had the best literature in the world. It didn’t have to doom its children to having to start over with the Chinese/Indian.

 

[Desiderius]

and upped the stats for some reason.

motherfucker the average companion has a 32 point buy in this game

Retards were all crying about Val and Amiri.

 

[Shadenuat]

and upped the stats for some reason.

motherfucker the average companion has a 32 point buy in this game

lann is 17 17 17 14 something is that even 32 and allowed

 

[Delterius]

What I don't get is not allowing the player to use Hedgwirg's point buy, would it even change things that much?

 

[FreeKaner]

Just allow us to roll 3 digits like BG so I can make a 18(00)-18-18-12-16-15 paladin again.

 

[Sarkile]

Why are there parenthesis in the stats? 2E has been dead for decades.

 

[Desiderius]

What I don't get is not allowing the player to use Hedgwirg's point buy, would it even change things that much?

That’s probably the rationale for the juiced stats. Doesn’t change much and keeps minmaxxer retards from scaring all the casuals.

Why are there parenthesis in the stats? 2E has been dead for decades.

That is not dead which can eternal lie.

 

[Desiderius]

and upped the stats for some reason.

motherfucker the average companion has a 32 point buy in this game

lann is 17 17 17 14 something is that even 32 and allowed

Half the point of class is WIS to AB and they’re just like let’s make that not matter.

 

[fantadomat]

Just allow us to roll 3 digits like BG so I can make a 18(00)-18-18-12-16-15 paladin again.

Ahh i just use cheatengine to get 18 in everything. I like playing as meself,only kotc was respectable enough and just let max out at character creation .