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Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Beta Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

Discussion in 'Owlcat Games' started by Thonius, Apr 29, 2020.

  1. Infinitron I post news Patron

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  2. Desiderius Found your egg, Robinett, you sneaky bastard Patron

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    Gotta Coup then I guess.
     
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  3. Stavrophore Kalin was right all along. Patron

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    On one ear you have sweaty 30 year old incel basement angel on the other ear you have 15 year old fortnite adderall zoomer devil.
    Both are competing for your money.
     
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  4. Sharpedge Savant

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    Yeah, for some reason I didn't realize that was a thing until it was pointed out here. Always nice to learn new tricks!
     
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  5. santino27 Arcane Patron

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    Entranced fighters getting +20 damage in the succubus house at lvl 7. I guess love really is the strongest force in the universe.

    Edit: Level 7, not 4. Added the inspect for you, Desiderius.

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  6. sorinmask Just like Yves, I chase tales. Patron

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    I don't think that's love. That more like the power of boner. :lol:
     
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  7. Meredoth Arcane

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    Is devil path already in beta?
     
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  8. Desiderius Found your egg, Robinett, you sneaky bastard Patron

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    What’s the STR?
     
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  9. santino27 Arcane Patron

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    I'll have to get back there and check in my new game. I want to say it was 19. Rapier + 1, +4 str damage bonus, +4 for power attack (BAB > 4, but rapier not wielded as a two-hander) only adds up to 9, so your guess is as good as mine. His buddy appeared to be wielding a longsword+11 (and crit me for 39), but I didn't get screens before I killed them. Someone else on discord reported something similar before the hyperactive mods decided it wasn't a critical bug and should therefore be deleted from the channel.
     
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  10. Desiderius Found your egg, Robinett, you sneaky bastard Patron

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    Yeah I told them Witch Hexes were using CHR for DCs and they said that wasn’t critical either. Whatever.
     
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  11. Yosharian Magister

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    You can determine his strength from the CMB calculation

    CMB = Base attack bonus + Strength modifier + special size modifier

    BAB of level 7 Fighter is 7, no special size modifier I'm presuming, so a STR modifer of +5, i.e. 20 STR.

    Assuming he is two-handing the rapier,

    +2 weapon specialization
    +5 STR bonus
    +1 weapon enchantment
    +4 power attack

    That leaves +8 unaccounted for

    Edit: oh ok he wasn't two-handing? What the fuck.

    The +8 must come from a combination of difficulty setting bonuses and some kind of rage/trance damage bonus
     
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  12. Sharpedge Savant

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    You can read his strength off of his char sheet via inspect.
     
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  13. Yosharian Magister

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    Huh? I know that, it's not in the screenshot
     
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  14. Desiderius Found your egg, Robinett, you sneaky bastard Patron

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    TIL that Witches (including Ember) get a Hex that gives anyone a Bite atk for 10min at will.
     
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  15. Delterius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    If anyone has a save with a Trickster path, I'd really like it if you could check the Perception 2 mythic trick and see if you can stack the stat focus 'secret feat' bonus.
     
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  16. Desiderius Found your egg, Robinett, you sneaky bastard Patron

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    Almost certainly. They aren’t very good currently.
     
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  17. Delterius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    I'm thinking that if you burn a lot of stat focus on a spellcasting attribute you could have better DCs than some other mythic paths.
     
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  18. Desiderius Found your egg, Robinett, you sneaky bastard Patron

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    If you're trying to beat spell DCs you're in the wrong Mythic Path.

    I think.
     
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    Which is the best mythic path for DC based casters?
     
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  20. Sharpedge Savant

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    So I cleared up what remains of the beta. Party ended up being level ~18.7 at the end of it, I know I missed some quests due to them bugging and could probably have reached level 19 with them. Before finishing up the run I reloaded before the Hepzamirah/Baphomet fight and gave it a try on unfair. It was surprisingly easy. Even did it a couple of times to ensure it wasn't just lucky rolls. They might need to do something about unfair at later stages of the game because I think that it might be tapering off in the abyss. My party is not taking any fancy dips or anything currently, they are just whatever base class they are allocated on every level up. Any fancyness present was purely from mythic paths. Anyhow, I will precede with a Desiderius style recounting of the fight, for anyone remotely interested.

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    Despite its stats, the boss itself is not actually that threatening. The scariest aspect to this fight are the monsters it brings along with it. It brings along 2 minotaur dispellers and 2 minotaur evokers. The evokers will normally win initiative and the first thing they will do upon combat initiation is drop a Sirocco on your party. There is however plenty of warning that a hard fight is coming up before you get into it, so the player should know up front that they should apply buffs before entering. Here is what that Sirocco looks like.
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    Fortunately you don't really need to engage with the minotaurs at all. The boss itself will come charging down at your party and when she dies they will run away. So after dispelling her buffs and liberally applying some debuffs to her, its easy to swat her like a bug.
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    After she dies, Baphomet appears and a 2nd fight breaks out. His stats are much higher than hers.
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    Despite having significantly higher stats than her, to the point my group could only hit him on 20's, he is actually an easier boss to fight. He heavily favors spell use over melee combat, spending most of his time either trying to dispel buffs or use spells like harm. When he does decide to attack someone he does a fair amount of damage, but by taking advantage of Last Stand, its easy to pull out a win here.
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    After a liberal use of magic in addition to the occasional 20 from the group to help out, I managed to take him down in 5 rounds. Over all, at this point in the game unfair fights are no longer that challenging. Or rather, this one definitely is not.
     
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    OMG. Baphomet is lv 66. Anyway, Lacrymas would hate this epicness.
     
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  22. Hóngwèibīng Arcane Vatnik Wumao

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    Comments, Lacrymas?
     
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  23. Desiderius Found your egg, Robinett, you sneaky bastard Patron

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    I don’t think you just add up the levels. Nenio has an ability that only works against foes on level or below that she fired off at level 7 against a Ghoul that was 6 Undead 2 Rogue and it worked.
     
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    Sharpedge, post MC and party if you will, please. I'm curious what you're running around with plus I love stealing other people's shit
     
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