Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Beta Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Desiderius]

What would be hilarious is if Nature 3 gave you chance at unique items.

 

[Generic-Giant-Spider]

HEY.

I TOLD YOU TO STOP THIS STUFF.

 

[Delterius]

i wanna re-use wands all day so i'm trickster

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Devil or bust.

Spoiler

Praise Cheliax.

 

[rashiakas]

What has Thrune to do with WotR?

 

[Delterius]

What has Thrune to do with WotR?

nothing whatsoever don't look behind the curtain

 

[Heroic Liberator]

What has Thrune to do with WotR?

Nothing (playable Cheliaxian HK orders aside), but you do have a Devil's path in WotR.

 

[Xamenos]

Thanks. Yeah, that's basically what I was getting at. I wasn't sure if you would get to use your magic to influence the overall strategic map the way HoMM could. I.e. scrying the opponent, control weather to mess with enemy armies, wind walk to cruise through the world map, using Gate x2 to transport entire armies, etc. Thought that there would've been a chance Owlcat implemented some of that to emulate high-level magic in an actual tabletop game, since they were going the whole epic route.

I might just stick with a Paladin run then.

Wait, what about this stretch goal?

Angel merges with Cleric or Oracle and Lich with Wiz/Sorc/Arcanist.

What do the rest of the mythics merge with?

 

[Delterius]

What do the rest of the mythics merge with?

they don't

 

[The_Mask]

Wait, what about this stretch goal?

It's when you summon things and they do things according to thing that you are... you know... things...

 

[Desiderius]

Wait, what about this stretch goal?

It's in there, barely. But Crusade management itself was non-functional in ch 3 this release for whatever reason. Too many units hanging in combat, couldn't build anything so couldn't recruit troops etc.

 

[Desiderius]

What do the rest of the mythics merge with?

Only other books that merge are Lich.

 

[Jaska]

DC casters yes, barbarians and bloodragers, no. Unless they fixed it, class rage and demonic rage cancelled each other out so it was a big waste to not be able to use a main class feature with your main mythic path feature.

You sure about that? I tested Wrath in february, played Demon as bloodrager and the rage powers stacked. Would be strange if they changed it to not work later.

 

[Delterius]

DC casters yes, barbarians and bloodragers, no. Unless they fixed it, class rage and demonic rage cancelled each other out so it was a big waste to not be able to use a main class feature with your main mythic path feature.

You sure about that? I tested Wrath in february, played Demon as bloodrager and the rage powers stacked. Would be strange if they changed it to not work later.

Pretty sure the rages never stacked.

 

[frajaq]

while searching for portraits I noticed that Caranthir from witcher 3 fits the Hellknight Signifier perfectly

Imrelith armor is also pretty damn good

 

[LannTheStupid]

It’s funny how people gravitate to doing more of what they’re already used to doing

Isn't it called "specialization"? I would definitely prefer Mythic powers to boost existing playstyle of my character instead of branching into something different.

 

[Desiderius]

It’s funny how people gravitate to doing more of what they’re already used to doing

Isn't it called "specialization"? I would definitely prefer Mythic powers to boost existing playstyle of my character instead of branching into something different.

No, that's called overkill. Lets see I'm a Trickster using, er, Trickery. That's... not... different.

Doing an extra 300 damage to a corpse is not helping you win. Pulling down the pants of the dude with 105AC so you can land your crits in the first place? That's exactly what the doctor ordered.

 

[Riel]

It’s funny how people gravitate to doing more of what they’re already used to doing

Isn't it called "specialization"? I would definitely prefer Mythic powers to boost existing playstyle of my character instead of branching into something different.

No, that's called overkill. Lets see I'm a Trickster using, er, Trickery. That's... not... different.

Doing an extra 300 damage to a corpse is not helping you win. Pulling down the pants of the dude with 105AC so you can land your crits in the first place? That's exactly what the doctor ordered.

I have to say that word games are a poor way to prove a point. If trickster path would double sneak damage you would want to put it in any back stabbing build while it would be useless to anyone without natural sneak damage. It really depends on what you get from the mythic path ACTUALLY being redundant or it powering up even more your class strengths, but not something as superficial as its name.

 

[Tacgnol]

At the end of the day, you should pick a mythic path appropriate to your class/character fantasy. Same argument I always use against weird munchkin-esque class dips that don't feel at all appropriate to the character.

 

[Lagole Gon]

So... do we know anything about the ultimate edgelord option - the Swarm?

Edit:
Okay, there is something. But it's mostly based on unique gimmick that needs to be seen in practice.

Spoiler

Swarm-That-Walks

• "You become The Swarm”: Your Intelligence, Wisdon and Charisma are increased by 4 plus your swarm size, you gain Spell Resistance equal to 25 plus your swarm size, and you gain immunity to most harmful conditions."
  
  
• "Host of the Great Swarm": You become a Host of the Great Swarm, which now lives inside your body. This symbiosis gives you fast healing and additional hit points depending on the size of the swarm.\nTo increase the size of the swarm you need to devour other living beings."
  
  
• "Eye of the Swarm": "From now on, you are made of the Swarm. You gain damage reduction of a swarm, immunity to attacks of opportunity. Your Strength and Dexterity increase by 4 plus your swarm size. You gain immunity to most effect affecting a body, such as poison, disease, paralysis and stun.Additionally, while Swarm Form is active, all your attacks deal additional 4 plus swarm size damage and any opponent that attacks you in melee combat is dealt 4 plus swarm size d6 of damage."
  
  
• "Swarm Clone", "You gain the ability to make your own clones using the swarm. They have all your abilities, but separate inventory. You can simultaneously have one clone per three point of your swarm size.",
  
  
• "Devour": You send a part of your swarm to devour a corpse to increase the size of your swarm.The increase depends on the CR of the devoured corpse. When the amount of eaten enemies hits a threshold, you gain permanently increased bonuses from other Swarm-That-Walks abilities."
  
  
• "Swarm Feast": "Your swarm flies out of your body and starts attacking all enemies in 50ft radius. Every round all enemies in the area are dealt 4 plus your swarm size d6 physical damage. If they die while in the area, they are automatically devoured.Any ranged or ranged touch attacks against you have a 50% chance to miss."
  
  
• "Swarm Infest": "You send a part of your swarm to infest an enemy. It makes the target blind and deals 8d8 physical damage each round. This damage increases by 2d8 for each point of your swarm size. If the target dies while under Infest, it's automatically devoured. When the ability ends (by activating Swarm Form ability), you are healed for the amount of damage you've dealt to the enemy with Infest.\nAdditionally, the target must make a Will saving throw (DC 15 + double mythic rank) or become panicked. This ability cancels Swarm Form.",
  
  
• "Swarm Form": "You return all of the swarm into your body. You gain DR 5/- plus your swarm size and a bonus to natural armor equal to 4 plus your swarm size.\nThis ability cancels Infest."

 

[Cryomancer]

class/character fantasy

I wanna make a dhampir water elementarist wizard. Which MP do you suggest?

 

[Tacgnol]

class/character fantasy

I wanna make a dhampir water elementarist wizard. Which MP do you suggest?

I've not read up I'm afraid. Maybe one of the alignment based ones?

 

[razvedchiki]

can you become a legend from the beginning?

 

[Desiderius]

It’s funny how people gravitate to doing more of what they’re already used to doing

Isn't it called "specialization"? I would definitely prefer Mythic powers to boost existing playstyle of my character instead of branching into something different.

No, that's called overkill. Lets see I'm a Trickster using, er, Trickery. That's... not... different.

Doing an extra 300 damage to a corpse is not helping you win. Pulling down the pants of the dude with 105AC so you can land your crits in the first place? That's exactly what the doctor ordered.

I have to say that word games are a poor way to prove a point. If trickster path would double sneak damage you would want to put it in any back stabbing build while it would be useless to anyone without natural sneak damage. It really depends on what you get from the mythic path ACTUALLY being redundant or it powering up even more your class strengths, but not something as superficial as its name.

No, that’s exactly my point. You’re not dying from lack of sneak dice, you’re dying from not being able to hit or getting fried by a Phantasmal Putrefaction. You’ve got to understand what problem you’re trying to solve before you can solve it. Has nothing at all to do with Munchkinism (this is a game designed to subvert that). It’s the munchkin who is killing the corpse deader, it’s the RPer who ends up ahead.

 

[Gradenmayer]

So Legend's path gives you 40 lvl cap with +4 to stats with exp gain boost? How good is that compared to other mythic paths?