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Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Beta Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

fantadomat

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Lich is INT based.
True chads play PoE core rules,pure STR lich!

RvMYJcC.gif
That didn't seem to end well for those 3 Liches in the GIF.
Those are four goblins and the dude is mage from rune soldier anime,really good one.
 

Lagole Gon

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Insert Title Here RPG Wokedex Codex Year of the Donut Pathfinder: Wrath
I still don't have my build...
Monk/rogue lich looks good on paper, but can he stat drain boss characters... Is there a good demon build other than stacking natural attacks... what the fuck is a bloodrager? A witch that turn into a night hag at level 20? Does it have unique model? That sounds kind of cool. Azata is gay but op, maybe I should play a good guy after all... rggghh...
I'm this close to mental breakdown and just playing a human fighter...
:despair:
 

fantadomat

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I still don't have my build...
Monk/rogue lich looks good on paper, but can he stat drain boss characters... Is there a good demon build other than stacking natural attacks... what the fuck is a bloodrager? A witch that turn into a night hag at level 20? Does it have unique model? That sounds kind of cool. Azata is gay but op, maybe I should play a good guy after all... rggghh...
I'm this close to mental breakdown and just playing a human fighter...
:despair:
LoL what a loser,i had me build before they announced it being possible. :smug:
 

Thonius

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Bloodrager is gish kinda it's like a ranger but instead of mixing fighter with druid it's like barb with mage/sorc with bloodlines.
Your avatar is a lich so go with lich bruh wtf and replay later as someone else. It's not rocket science... FINE I'll design a build for you:
Wizard REGULAR MAN WHITE OLD 20lvl - LICH. Done.
 

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but can he stat drain boss characters...
it's not consistent and strange; some strong enemies can be enervated to your heart content, while others would pop"immune" even if they don't look like the part.
the big thing about drain tho, is that killing with it would take way more time than fights actually last in pathfinder.
 

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A witch that turn into a night hag at level 20? Does it have unique model? That sounds kind of cool

It's not a night hag, just a regular old hag. Idk how a unique hag model would interact with the mythic path models. Though if you could be a hag lich then that'd be rad. Best wait until the mega autists esteemed codexian sigma males have finished their playthroughs 2 days after release.
 

Desiderius

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but can he stat drain boss characters...
it's not consistent and strange; some strong enemies can be enervated to your heart content, while others would pop"immune" even if they don't look like the part.
the big thing about drain tho, is that killing with it would take way more time than fights actually last in pathfinder.

Enervation is Touch no Save and you can Empower/Maximize it. Ember beat the Tavern boss with it when nobody else could do anything to it due to buffs being down. You don’t have to drain to death to bring saves/AC down to manageable level.
 

Desiderius

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Insert Title Here Pathfinder: Wrath
Paladin is Fighter Cleric, Ranger is Fighter Druid, Bloodrager is Barb Sorc.

Also:

Warpriest is Fighter Cleric, Hunter is Fighter Druid, Skald is Barb Sorc.

The former are more of the former and the latter are more of the latter.
 
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Shadenuat

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I ran quickened enervations myself. It's stat drain (like drain ~1 stat point on lich mythic on spell) which is what I found a bit meh.

if I remember right it only happens once when hits, meaning you can't turn sirocco into negative energy polar midnight. multihit rays maybe can be ok
 
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I started fapping for the release and gather imaginary party setups, so I'm also trying to list stackable bonuses for melee. Here's what I remember from Kingmaker and a few new bits from the wiki:

Freebooter : +5 from freebooter's bane (move action) , +2 when flanking from freeboter's bond (standard action). Dipping only 5 levels gives you +2 from bane and still +2 from bond.

Bard/Sensei/Martyr : +4 morale bonus from Inspire Competence. Dipping only 5 levels still gives you +2, along with mirror image if bard

Cleric : Community domain is incredible , but I don't think any of the npc's can pick it. Good domain's bonus lasts just for 1 round. All are sacred bonuses

Judge : This inquisitor subclass can share its +5 sacred bonus to attacks, AC and saves with the entire party (+2 at L5, +3 at 10 etc) , along with partywide ignore concealment at lvl12. If the base class wasn't so shitty, this too would've been icredible.

Paladin : Mark of justice (lvl11) gives paladin's Charisma bonus to attack rolls as sacred bonus. Too bad its too deep to dip.

Rogue : 4 level dip to get debilitating strike (-2 to enemy AC). Gives a lot of goodies aswell (dex to attacks and damage, various kit abilities etc).

So what else do we have?
 

Efe

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So what else do we have?
fortune / defensive luck from any of hex classes (+evil eye)
not +x bonuses but these make big difference

You get impossible domain from mythic so any cleric can pick community?
 

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I started fapping for the release and gather imaginary party setups, so I'm also trying to list stackable bonuses for melee. Here's what I remember from Kingmaker and a few new bits from the wiki:

So what else do we have?

Aeon: Enforcing Gaze (attack): +1 to hit for all allies, +1 every other aeon rank up to +6 at rank 10, same penalty to hit for enemies if they fail a will save at -2.
 

Daedalos

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So what'sthe consensus on TB vs rTWP for release?

Although I love TB in all games, i'm honestly not too hyped about TB in a game that seems made and designed for RTWP. I worry for all the trash fights.

Kingmaker 1 in RTwP felt surprisingly great and fun, and I vehemently hate RTwP, normally.

So yea
 

Haplo

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Real Time Kingmaker was fine.
But IMO Kingmaker TB was even better. Certainly FAR superior for aoe spell/ability usage. Certainly far better for all casters.
 

Aarwolf

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I liked TB Kingmaker better, but in general I like TB more than RTWP.

I play mainly casters, so ymmv.
 

LannTheStupid

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Pathfinder: Wrath
So what'sthe consensus on TB vs rTWP for release?
There is no consensus neither here nor in the wider world. I think that without implementing the emulation of simultaneous time flow (at least with some interrupts) TB mode is a cheat. There are other people who have completely opposite opinion.

So use whatever you prefer and enjoy this wonderful game as it suits you most.
 
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Humbaba

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So what'sthe consensus on TB vs rTWP for release?

Although I love TB in all games, i'm honestly not too hyped about TB in a game that seems made and designed for RTWP. I worry for all the trash fights.

Kingmaker 1 in RTwP felt surprisingly great and fun, and I vehemently hate RTwP, normally.

So yea

Reasonably speaking, you can do whatever you want.

However, if you wanna be a man, a productive member of society and contribute to your community and the lives of your loved ones you play RTWP. Despite what some Belgian revisionists would have you believe, the turn based nature of tabletop RPGs is not an artistic choice but a technical limitation. Additionally, TB mode in a computer game is a complete waste of the medium's potential, since PCs were literally invented to do calculations, like dice rolls for you. By picking TB you are defeating the whole point of playing a cRPG and might as well just play the original PnP adventure. If you want an immersive, simulationist experience like BG you pick RTWP. If you want to waste your time for no reason and want your immersion shattered every 20 minutes you pick TB like an absolute jackass.
 

LannTheStupid

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Some CohhCarnage footage
And here is the difference between a "misunderstood genius" and a Western hype train rider. Incomprehensible 2+ hours rant with at least 2 completely unexpected (at least by me) ideas - and a presentation as glossy and polished as the surface of CohhCarnage's brain.

To each his own indeed.
 

Desiderius

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Insert Title Here Pathfinder: Wrath
Some CohhCarnage footage
And here is the difference between a "misunderstood genius" and a Western hype train rider. Incomprehensible 2+ hours rant with at least 2 completely unexpected (at least by me) ideas - and a presentation as glossy and polished as the surface of CohhCarnage's brain.

To each his own indeed.

Can you give us a synopsis? I can't bear to watch.
 

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