Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Game of the Year Edition

[LannTheStupid]

And now this.

I took the survey. There is no item "hire a QA manager and give him enough power to enforce the developers to follow the patch workflow".

Just sayin'.

 

[Delterius]

they are taking surveys on what DLCs to make

n o w?

edit: voted for extra paths/more content for paths because that's what they should have focused on for dlc right from the start

 

[Humbaba]

I've been considering maybe picking Bard/subclass for my upcoming swarm playthrough instead of Grenadier. There would be no bomb spam but having the ability to have every swarm clone play a different tune doesn't sound too bad either. I could see equipment being a problem though, because Bards are best when using a shield and up front, whereas a Grenadier can both function in melee and in the backline reasonably well, so I might have trouble finding good gear for every clone.

 

[Yosharian]

ecause Bards are best when using a shield and up front

 

[Humbaba]

"Post-campaign DLC campaign"

"... with focus on politics for knight commander or new character (depending on ending)"

So if you chose to fuck off with your PC after closing the worldwound, he is ineligible for the campaign or what? Just come up with a premise so that every character is viable, this can't be too hard

 

[Humbaba]

ecause Bards are best when using a shield and up front

Aren't they? I thought the whole point of them being able to use shields was to use them as melee fighters, not backline casters. Ghost Galfrey works pretty well as such.

 

[Desiderius]

ecause Bards are best when using a shield and up front

He’s right, though not sure how well that translates to Swarm.

 

[Delterius]

a premise so that every character is viable

i'd add 'just ignore the ascension ending tbh. its a dead end and if the player wants it they can simply not play the dlc'

 

[Yosharian]

Ummmm no? They really don't have the AC bonuses to play with the big boys in melee. Mirror Image helps a lot to be fair, but it's not as reliable in Wrath as it was in KM

Also shields got massively nerfed a few patches ago

Best thing about them being able to use shields is easy access to Missile Shield

 

[Humbaba]

a premise so that every character is viable

i'd add 'just ignore the ascension ending tbh. its a dead end and if the player wants it they can simply not play the dlc'

Or just have the PC be kicked out of heaven for any reason at all.

Also shields got massively nerfed a few patches ago

They did? Haven't played since January.

 

[Desiderius]

Ummmm no? They really don't have the AC bonuses to play with the big boys in melee. Mirror Image helps a lot to be fair, but it's not as reliable in Wrath as it was in KM

Also shields got massively nerfed a few patches ago

Best thing about them being able to use shields is easy access to Missile Shield

There are two good early Heavy Shields. You don’t want to tank but Demoralize/Cast first round then melee with Shield/Rapier works well for positioning and triggering Outflank chains. Don’t have Feats/Spells/abilities for ranged.

 

[Tsubutai]

P good troll for someone to suggest a DLC based entirely around Owlcat's puzzles.

 

[Delterius]

Or just have the PC be kicked out of heaven for any reason at all.

thats not really a thing and if it was then the story would change and be about that. there's no way to accomodate it

 

[LannTheStupid]

P good troll for someone to suggest a DLC based entirely around Owlcat's puzzles.

I voted for this.

 

[Humbaba]

Or just have the PC be kicked out of heaven for any reason at all.

thats not really a thing and if it was then the story would change and be about that. there's no way to accomodate it

Of course it is. Maybe have the PC be kicked out for the exact purpose of going on whatever adventure it's going to be.

 

[Tsubutai]

If you wanted to do a continuation campaign for a PC who ascended, you could just have the protagonist be their herald/avatar. I'm not sure that such a campaign would be a good idea though because it's hard to see where the sense of progression and mechanical character development would come from - Inevitable Excess already suffered from that quite a bit.

 

[Delterius]

Or just have the PC be kicked out of heaven for any reason at all.

thats not really a thing and if it was then the story would change and be about that. there's no way to accomodate it

Of course it is. Maybe have the PC be kicked out for the exact purpose of going on whatever adventure it's going to be.

there's no one to kick you out. that's just not a thing in this setting. and especially not with this ascension ending. taking on a mortal guise is a no go as well given what happened the last time someone tried pulling it off.

If you wanted to do a continuation campaign for a PC who ascended, you could just have the protagonist be their herald/avatar.

You just create someone at max level and call them your herald? That could work I guess.

 

[Cryomancer]

In their survey : https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/ZZRR6ZG?

I hope NO ONE is marking Puzzles or romance options for the item 4.

New mythic path and areas to explore >>>> romance

 

[Ghulgothas]

I remember the last DLC survey they put out. I asked for a post-campaign expansion and we ended-up getting Inevitable Excess, so I'll take partial responsibility for starting them off on the wrong foot.

Also, lmao at these options.

Absolutely worth $12.99 to the right people.

 

[AwesomeButton]

There's also the fact that the percentage of players who actually complete a game (i.e. reach the ending) is, overall, quite low.

That fact follows from what I wrote IMO. Content is weak and repetitive, and the average player loses interest.

 

[Ghulgothas]

There's enough race-class-mythic bloat to paralyze indecisives and satisfy build-autists until their third Pathfinder RPG, and rats are better left in the past. Asking for, in order.

1. Mythic Content
2. Pathfinder Society Spin-Off
3. First Crusade Prequel
4. White Marchlike New Region

At this point, the only thing the main campaign could use that I think they could actually deliver on is all that pipedream Mythic Content. Rather have some smaller, instanced side-adventures to run custom characters and parties through, like Part 2 of Through the Ashes they've clearly got planned.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Have they nerfed Core difficulty? I don't remember numbers in specific encounters, but I seem to remember having a lot more difficult time the first time I played. Or maybe I'm conflating my 50 hours with Wizard to my later Gendarme playthrough.

 

[IllusiveBrian]

If you wanted to do a continuation campaign for a PC who ascended, you could just have the protagonist be their herald/avatar. I'm not sure that such a campaign would be a good idea though because it's hard to see where the sense of progression and mechanical character development would come from - Inevitable Excess already suffered from that quite a bit.

The PC could get 20 more levels, or 40 if Legend.

 

[santino27]

On Reddit there's a huge amount of people fervently praising Owlcat for the ever-continuous 'fixing' of Wrath, and very little backlash when things go awry

While Reddit is certainly more optimistic than the 'dex, it's actually my impression that EE has more critics there than defenders, which is very striking for a game subreddit.

Could be, although I saw someone defending the EE because 'they've been waiting forever for the reforge mechanic and have so many ideas on how they can dress their characters now.' This is what happens when you chase the Bioware fandom.

 

[LannTheStupid]

I hope NO ONE is marking Puzzles or romance options for the item 4.

I have voted for puzzles. Bite me.