Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Game of the Year Edition

[Yosharian]

Summons are such a game-changer in those early game fights. Can't be overstated. Just having walls of hit points to screen your characters can by itself reduce tough encounters to facerolls.

I am currently fighting 2 Marilith and a respawning Derakni who are absolutely decimating my party at the same level/chapter/part of the game where I was pubstomping Vordekai dungeon without a single reload

Poor Vordakai =(

Even with maximum vanilla stats and improved stats from mods, he still lasted a few rounds tops in my last playthrough. Sad times.

 

[Longes]

How dare you roll your eyes at me Hap! The damn game isn't finished, brother. You gonna tell me that they aren't fixing game-breaking bugs a few weeks after the launch of the ENHANCED EDITION? Come on man. Can we get real for just one moment here? The state of the game is fucking shocking.

The lategame Demon forms still have PLACEHOLDER ICONS FOR KEY ABILITIES and MISSING TEXT IN WEAPON NAMES. How are we gonna say that this is a finished game.

My favorite part of EE is how it was advertised having new Devil and Swarm content, and then had none.

 

[HoboForEternity]

Animal companions are also the busted one in this game. The first that hit 50 AC fully buffed is daeran's wolf and my smilodon. Summons are meatshield, they rarely do significant damage even tho i have augment summon and the mythic summon feat. But they are great meatshield. Because all you need is someone who takes a fraction of the damage. What i am having issue is saving throw for status effect. I haven't invested in iron will yet, since will save are the most troublesome, i thought i could get by from buffs and shake it off teamwork feats. With both type of blessings, shake it off, good hope, seelah's paladin aura, etc will status effect still gave me the most trouble.

 

[Yosharian]

How dare you roll your eyes at me Hap! The damn game isn't finished, brother. You gonna tell me that they aren't fixing game-breaking bugs a few weeks after the launch of the ENHANCED EDITION? Come on man. Can we get real for just one moment here? The state of the game is fucking shocking.

The lategame Demon forms still have PLACEHOLDER ICONS FOR KEY ABILITIES and MISSING TEXT IN WEAPON NAMES. How are we gonna say that this is a finished game.

My favorite part of EE is how it was advertised having new Devil and Swarm content, and then had none.

So the thing with that is that 1) dataminers discovered some things and 2) a community manager hinted taht there were things coming for those paths

I'm not certain that Owlcat officially ever stated that new content was coming for those paths, aside from that

 

[Yosharian]

Animal companions are also the busted one in this game. The first that hit 50 AC fully buffed is daeran's wolf and my smilodon. Summons are meatshield, they rarely do significant damage even tho i have augment summon and the mythic summon feat. But they are great meatshield. Because all you need is someone who takes a fraction of the damage. What i am having issue is saving throw for status effect. I haven't invested in iron will yet, since will save are the most troublesome, i thought i could get by from buffs and shake it off teamwork feats. With both type of blessings, shake it off, good hope, seelah's paladin aura, etc will status effect still gave me the most trouble.

Yeah Will saves are super important no question about that. It's the first thing I get on pets generally

Too bad you can't give them Mythic Iron Will

 

[Grunker]

The lategame Demon forms still have PLACEHOLDER ICONS FOR KEY ABILITIES and MISSING TEXT IN WEAPON NAMES. How are we gonna say that this is a finished game.

My favorite part of EE is how it was advertised having new content, and then had none.

fixed LOL

 

[Grunker]

Animal companions are also the busted one in this game. The first that hit 50 AC fully buffed is daeran's wolf and my smilodon. Summons are meatshield, they rarely do significant damage even tho i have augment summon and the mythic summon feat. But they are great meatshield. Because all you need is someone who takes a fraction of the damage. What i am having issue is saving throw for status effect. I haven't invested in iron will yet, since will save are the most troublesome, i thought i could get by from buffs and shake it off teamwork feats. With both type of blessings, shake it off, good hope, seelah's paladin aura, etc will status effect still gave me the most trouble.

Confusion is cucking the fuck outta me mate. Saves are almost impossible to make consistently on Unfair, so statuses that are hard to get rid of with buff immune are a real bitch

 

[rusty_shackleford]

what the fuck am I even looking at here lmao

 

[HoboForEternity]

what the fuck am I even looking at here lmao

Owlcat genius encounter and quest design.

You can skip the fight, but it felt like cop out >_>

 

[Jaedar]

I am currently fighting 2 Marilith and a respawning Derakni who are absolutely decimating my party at the same level/chapter/part of the game where I was pubstomping Vordekai dungeon without a single reload

I guess this is in the lab? There are a few tough optional fights there.

Carnivorous Crystals can go fuck themselves.

You ain't seen nothing yet. HAHAHAHA ha ha ha....

I repeat: I can't wait for you to get to the actually hard parts of the game

If you want some mercy, based on a previous party flaw you mentioned (not for your current problems, but probably soon upcoming)

Spoiler

You're really going to want a reliable way to deal with swarms soon.

You can skip the fight, but it felt like cop out >_>

It's a bit hard to tell from the screenshot what is going on, but you can also do the flesh market in parts by attacking the individual vendors. You don't have to kill all of them at once.

 

[HoboForEternity]

I am currently fighting 2 Marilith and a respawning Derakni who are absolutely decimating my party at the same level/chapter/part of the game where I was pubstomping Vordekai dungeon without a single reload

I guess this is in the lab? There are a few tough optional fights there.

Carnivorous Crystals can go fuck themselves.

You ain't seen nothing yet. HAHAHAHA ha ha ha....

I repeat: I can't wait for you to get to the actually hard parts of the game

If you want some mercy, based on a previous party flaw you mentioned (not for your current problems, but probably soon upcoming)

Spoiler

You're really going to want a reliable way to deal with swarms soon.

You can skip the fight, but it felt like cop out >_>

It's a bit hard to tell from the screenshot what is going on, but you can also do the flesh market in parts by attacking the individual vendors. You don't have to kill all of them at once.

The problem is the big guy because everyone including the guard aggro'd when we attack him. I already killed all the talkable NPCs. All other sellers are easy since they just fight themselves, summon few friends to the fight. The problem are the guards. Killing everything else before made it easier but doesn't solve the main problem.

 

[Haplo]

Animal companions are also the busted one in this game. The first that hit 50 AC fully buffed is daeran's wolf and my smilodon. Summons are meatshield, they rarely do significant damage even tho i have augment summon and the mythic summon feat. But they are great meatshield. Because all you need is someone who takes a fraction of the damage. What i am having issue is saving throw for status effect. I haven't invested in iron will yet, since will save are the most troublesome, i thought i could get by from buffs and shake it off teamwork feats. With both type of blessings, shake it off, good hope, seelah's paladin aura, etc will status effect still gave me the most trouble.

Confusion is cucking the fuck outta me mate. Saves are almost impossible to make consistently on Unfair, so statuses that are hard to get rid of with buff immune are a real bitch

Spoiler

There's a pretty OP mind immunity ring if you spare the demon in Regill's quest. Though I guess you're finished it now

 

[Haplo]

And here's one from the middle of combat to rule out surprise round shennanigans:

Spoiler

What race is her mount? Is she using Reduce Person perhaps?

No and no. She's riding a smilodon (Large) and she has no changes to size (so Medium).

I've had Spirited Charge randomly stop working before. But I kinda thought that was generally fixed like 10 patches ago.
Recurrent issue?

 

[Monkeyfinger]

what the fuck am I even looking at here lmao

Owlcat genius encounter and quest design.

You can skip the fight, but it felt like cop out >_>

I wish max zoom were like 30% further out, that would make the big clusterfuck battles a lot nicer to play.

 

[Grunker]

And here's one from the middle of combat to rule out surprise round shennanigans:

Spoiler

What race is her mount? Is she using Reduce Person perhaps?

No and no. She's riding a smilodon (Large) and she has no changes to size (so Medium).

I've had Spirited Charge randomly stop working before. But I kinda thought that was generally fixed like 10 patches ago.
Recurrent issue?

Someone online said restarting the game sometimes put them in a state where it worked, sometime where it doesn't work. So that might be worth trying.

 

[Grunker]

I am currently fighting 2 Marilith and a respawning Derakni who are absolutely decimating my party at the same level/chapter/part of the game where I was pubstomping Vordekai dungeon without a single reload

I guess this is in the lab? There are a few tough optional fights there.

Carnivorous Crystals can go fuck themselves.

You ain't seen nothing yet. HAHAHAHA ha ha ha....

I repeat: I can't wait for you to get to the actually hard parts of the game

If you want some mercy, based on a previous party flaw you mentioned (not for your current problems, but probably soon upcoming)

Spoiler

You're really going to want a reliable way to deal with swarms soon.

You can skip the fight, but it felt like cop out >_>

It's a bit hard to tell from the screenshot what is going on, but you can also do the flesh market in parts by attacking the individual vendors. You don't have to kill all of them at once.

Do Hellfire Rays count as a reliable way? Probably not, right?

 

[Desiderius]

Animal companions are also the busted one in this game. The first that hit 50 AC fully buffed is daeran's wolf and my smilodon. Summons are meatshield, they rarely do significant damage even tho i have augment summon and the mythic summon feat. But they are great meatshield. Because all you need is someone who takes a fraction of the damage. What i am having issue is saving throw for status effect. I haven't invested in iron will yet, since will save are the most troublesome, i thought i could get by from buffs and shake it off teamwork feats. With both type of blessings, shake it off, good hope, seelah's paladin aura, etc will status effect still gave me the most trouble.

Use the Mounted Combat (for saves) Feat, Luke. Rupture Restraints is good for non-pets.

Iron Will isn’t very good without the Mythic Version, and there’s the Cloak that gives Mind Immune if you kill something.

Summons can get there on offense given a sufficiently ridiculous set of buffs/debuffs thru sheer # of attacks.

 

[Desiderius]

Animal companions are also the busted one in this game. The first that hit 50 AC fully buffed is daeran's wolf and my smilodon. Summons are meatshield, they rarely do significant damage even tho i have augment summon and the mythic summon feat. But they are great meatshield. Because all you need is someone who takes a fraction of the damage. What i am having issue is saving throw for status effect. I haven't invested in iron will yet, since will save are the most troublesome, i thought i could get by from buffs and shake it off teamwork feats. With both type of blessings, shake it off, good hope, seelah's paladin aura, etc will status effect still gave me the most trouble.

Confusion is cucking the fuck outta me mate. Saves are almost impossible to make consistently on Unfair, so statuses that are hard to get rid of with buff immune are a real bitch

Spoiler

There's a pretty OP mind immunity ring if you spare the demon in Regill's quest. Though I guess you're finished it now

Pets can’t wear rings?

 

[Desiderius]

Can’t you eliminate some of the flesh market foes before that fight? Usually if you have to cheese you’ve missed some alternative.

 

[Tsubutai]

You can buy scrolls of mind blank, communal from the dlc3 vendor if you're having trouble with will saves - it gives +8 will to the entire party and a single cast is enough for a large dungeon. Also, once your divine caster gets level 8 spells, you can make your entire party immune to mind-affecting shenanigans with shield of law or cloak of chaos.

 

[HoboForEternity]

Wow playful darkness is EZ after the slave market fight. It was still hard, but compared to that hell it was pretty EZ.

 

[Haplo]

Use the Mounted Combat (for saves) Feat, Luke.

That'd be Indomitable Mount feat

Confusion is cucking the fuck outta me mate. Saves are almost impossible to make consistently on Unfair, so statuses that are hard to get rid of with buff immune are a real bitch

Spoiler

There's a pretty OP mind immunity ring if you spare the demon in Regill's quest. Though I guess you're finished it now

Pets can’t wear rings?

True. Wasn't sure the Will issue only concerned the pets, though

 

[Jaedar]

Do Hellfire Rays count as a reliable way? Probably not, right?

Depends. How many dozen can you cast?

 

[Grunker]

Use the Mounted Combat (for saves) Feat, Luke.

That'd be Indomitable Mount feat

Confusion is cucking the fuck outta me mate. Saves are almost impossible to make consistently on Unfair, so statuses that are hard to get rid of with buff immune are a real bitch

Spoiler

There's a pretty OP mind immunity ring if you spare the demon in Regill's quest. Though I guess you're finished it now

Pets can’t wear rings?

True. Wasn't sure the Will issue only concerned the pets, though

It didn't. Confusing on pets you kindda sortta deal with, but at least in my party, Confusion on especially my MC is a pain to deal with.

He continues to be absolutely amazing btw. Whereas other characters rely on crits or Spirited Charge for situational big damage, MC attacks 12 times for 25-40 damage per attack without crits. His AB is not the best, but as soon as he makes one hit, he's gonna hit everything (due to Shatter). Ember's Fortune and Camelia's Bit of Luck is a hefty synergy with that many attacks. You might have a measly 19-20 threat range, but you roll 24 dice, so

 

[Humbaba]

Wow playful darkness is EZ after the slave market fight. It was still hard, but compared to that hell it was pretty EZ.

Not having to fight the framerate along with everyone in the fucking market sure helps.