Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Game of the Year Edition

[Haplo]

And of course, Seelah with Mythic Improved Critical Jinx, riding a battle pig is becoming a force to be reckoned with as well. Particularly considering that her battle pig is adept at tripping as well.

She can get something not a horse? Or are you multi classing her?

Yeah, with Hunter / Beastrider / Sacred Huntsmaster dip she can get any pet.

I see. I guess you just pick the dip before 5?

Yes.

Does she need to take Horse at level 5 to benefit Paladin class progression to Animal Companion level or this free ups you to take Divine Weapon Bond?

No, she still needs to pick Animal Companion - Continue.
Otherwise you'll have an underlevelled mount.

 

[LannTheStupid]

Yeah, with Hunter / Beastrider / Sacred Huntsmaster dip she can get any pet.

Which classes of them keep full BAB progression? I know about Beastrider, but what about the rest?

 

[Haplo]

Yeah, with Hunter / Beastrider / Sacred Huntsmaster dip she can get any pet.

Which classes of them keep full BAB progression? I know about Beastrider, but what about the rest?

No, they don't. Mad Dog is another option - not on Seelah, though.

But they offer some other benefits, like Teamwork feat sharing with pet, as well as bonus feat, some low level spells, including rare Lead Blades and Acid Maw (Hunter) or Teamwork feat sharing and Wis based Initiative bonus, plus maybe True Strike (Sacred Huntsmaster).

 

[Yosharian]

Swift Action hex? Lmao that is so broken.

Well, only the first one in combat, similarly to Sorcerous Reflex Swift action spells.

Also not more broken then Swift Action Domain Powers - that can be spammed every round.

But yeah, its nice.

Ohh I see. Ok yeah that's just ok, not broken

 

[LannTheStupid]

Well, only the first one in combat, similarly to Sorcerous Reflex Swift action spells.

Also not more broken then Swift Action Domain Powers - that can be spammed every round.

Judging by this, even with the mod, Sosiel might be more helpful than Camellia.

However, changing Camellia to him is sacrilege.

 

[Haplo]

Well, only the first one in combat, similarly to Sorcerous Reflex Swift action spells.

Also not more broken then Swift Action Domain Powers - that can be spammed every round.

Judging by this, even with the mod, Sosiel might be more helpful than Camellia.

However, changing Camellia to him is sacrilege.

Definately yes. However in my case she offers more ranged fire support.

 

[LannTheStupid]

On the other hand, cursing first and finishing off almost-dead enemies with the rapier—this is very Camellia.

 

[Desiderius]

Swift Action hex? Lmao that is so broken.

Well, only the first one in combat, similarly to Sorcerous Reflex Swift action spells.

Also not more broken then Swift Action Domain Powers - that can be spammed every round.

But yeah, its nice.

Hexes are infinite use.

 

[Haplo]

On the other hand, cursing first and finishing off almost-dead enemies with the rapier—this is very Camellia.

Hm, true. I guess she'd hate to miss the gory details up close... and the blood...

 

[Haplo]

Swift Action hex? Lmao that is so broken.

Well, only the first one in combat, similarly to Sorcerous Reflex Swift action spells.

Also not more broken then Swift Action Domain Powers - that can be spammed every round.

But yeah, its nice.

Hexes are infinite use.

For practical purposes, so are many Domain powers.
Unless you mean Community. Or Destruction I guess - but this one is even better for action economy, as one power has a duration, while the other is a simple free action toggle.

 

[Desiderius]

Only for people who’ve figured out that the rest mechanics are reversed in Wrath from P:K, and even there you’re going to need an auto-buffing mod (or to nerf your casters with Enduring) if you don’t want to die of boredom.

Sosiel’s domain abilities only last one round each (the later ones are very limited activation) so you can run through those pretty fast as well.

The importance of being able to spike effectively is underrated, though not by you - you’ve mastered it - so if that’s what you’re getting at it’s a valid point.

TTT/Dark Codex has a Mythic that gives unlimited Domain abilities that I took on Reg but ended up not needing it much.

 

[ga♥]

icy burst damage should scale with feats increasing the crit multipliers? If the answer is yes, then it's sadly bugged.
If not, and only uses the weapon type crit multiplier, then I think all the weapons in the game with it have only x2 so what's the point.

 

[Yosharian]

icy burst damage should scale with feats increasing the crit multipliers? If the answer is yes, then it's sadly bugged.
If not, and only uses the weapon type crit multiplier, then I think all the weapons in the game with it have only x2 so what's the point.

That has never worked and it never will

And don't bring it up on Reddit because people will argue it's working as intended

They said they it's meant to use the weapon's base multiplier only IIRC, 5head moment

 

[ga♥]

icy burst damage should scale with feats increasing the crit multipliers? If the answer is yes, then it's sadly bugged.
If not, and only uses the weapon type crit multiplier, then I think all the weapons in the game with it have only x2 so what's the point.

That has never worked and it never will

And don't bring it up on Reddit because people will argue it's working as intended

They said they it's meant to use the weapon's base multiplier only IIRC, 5head moment

Well if it's working as intended, as per the pathfinder rules, they should give the ability to more > x2 weapons then.
As it is now, it's pretty underwhelming.
1d10 on a crit is worse than for example the more basic "frost" or any other elemental damage, 1d6 on all hits.

 

[Yosharian]

Yeah it's pretty bad

 

[Haplo]

icy burst damage should scale with feats increasing the crit multipliers? If the answer is yes, then it's sadly bugged.
If not, and only uses the weapon type crit multiplier, then I think all the weapons in the game with it have only x2 so what's the point.

That has never worked and it never will

And don't bring it up on Reddit because people will argue it's working as intended

They said they it's meant to use the weapon's base multiplier only IIRC, 5head moment

Well if it's working as intended, as per the pathfinder rules, they should give the ability to more > x2 weapons then.
As it is now, it's pretty underwhelming.
1d10 on a crit is worse than for example the more basic "frost" or any other elemental damage, 1d6 on all hits.

But one does not exclude the other? Frost Burst means 1d6 on every hit AND 1d10/2d10/3d10 on a crit.
Its essentially a light upgrade to non-Burst property.

 

[Yosharian]

Too bad that on the only weapons on which this is even remotely useful in the setting, i.e. Elder weapons, the Elder function doesn't work with the burst damage.

Have fun doing 1D6 or even 1D10 damage and seeing it all or mostly resisted by every single monster in the game

Pre-nerf EB aside, elemental weapons are completely fucking useless in Wrath

 

[Haplo]

Too bad that on the only weapons on which this is even remotely useful in the setting, i.e. Elder weapons, the Elder function doesn't work with the burst damage.

Have fun doing 1D6 or even 1D10 damage and seeing it all or mostly resisted by every single monster in the game

Pre-nerf EB aside, elemental weapons are completely fucking useless in Wrath

They are not - for Angels and Gold Dragons at least.

 

[Yosharian]

Too bad that on the only weapons on which this is even remotely useful in the setting, i.e. Elder weapons, the Elder function doesn't work with the burst damage.

Have fun doing 1D6 or even 1D10 damage and seeing it all or mostly resisted by every single monster in the game

Pre-nerf EB aside, elemental weapons are completely fucking useless in Wrath

They are not - for Angels and Gold Dragons at least.

Whut

Explain?

 

[Haplo]

Too bad that on the only weapons on which this is even remotely useful in the setting, i.e. Elder weapons, the Elder function doesn't work with the burst damage.

Have fun doing 1D6 or even 1D10 damage and seeing it all or mostly resisted by every single monster in the game

Pre-nerf EB aside, elemental weapons are completely fucking useless in Wrath

They are not - for Angels and Gold Dragons at least.

Whut

Explain?

Angels and Gold Dragons can make all their damage Holy and bypass all DRs.

Well, others can possibly make it Force to bypass DRs with Bane of Spirit ring, but that'd require constant manual activation.

 

[Yosharian]

Oh yeah I guess that's true

 

[scytheavatar]

Guys I want to try playing Camellia as a ray caster, using Loremaster dip for Scorching and Hellfire Ray. She gets Firestorm and Flame Strike for AOE in mid game. Can someone explain to me why that would be a dumb idea? I know that would mean Metal Curse doesn't hit -6 before lvl 19, but is that the only drawback?

 

[Desiderius]

Guys I want to try playing Camellia as a ray caster, using Loremaster dip for Scorching and Hellfire Ray. She gets Firestorm and Flame Strike for AOE in mid game. Can someone explain to me why that would be a dumb idea? I know that would mean Metal Curse doesn't hit -6 before lvl 19, but is that the only drawback?

Just use meta (can use Hex picks for Meta then favorable Mythic to reduce level and stack) Snowballs (via Second Spirit Frost). They bypass SR. Now that Winter Witch is working (I think) you can even go that way if you want. She eventually gets Polar Ray and the high level Cold spells but you can meta the balls to fill slots and use the rest for buffs.

 

[Haplo]

Guys I want to try playing Camellia as a ray caster, using Loremaster dip for Scorching and Hellfire Ray. She gets Firestorm and Flame Strike for AOE in mid game. Can someone explain to me why that would be a dumb idea? I know that would mean Metal Curse doesn't hit -6 before lvl 19, but is that the only drawback?

Doesn't sound dumb at all. She has high Dex and Divine Power, therefore good ray accuracy. Hellfire is the strongest single target spell.

 

[razvedchiki]

is there any way for ember to learn haste?