Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Game of the Year Edition

[Parabalus]

New Winter's Grasp spell is pretty cool.

I'm saying if you did Defense to get the Amulet from the Nabasu (which can be sold to fund the army), then you can use the Horses to top off before Garrison if you're close to leveling.

I find it a bit of a stretch to clear everything I want to before Defense anyway so might as well just take my time, do Defense, then finish everything else.

All new mobs seem to be:

• 2x plague horse pack
• 2x rat swarms
• Nabassu
• Dretch pack

 

[Haplo]

I'm saying if you did Defense to get the Amulet from the Nabasu (which can be sold to fund the army), then you can use the Horses to top off before Garrison if you're close to leveling.

I find it a bit of a stretch to clear everything I want to before Defense anyway so might as well just take my time, do Defense, then finish everything else.

You don't have to clear everything before reporting readiness to assault the Gray Garrison. Just Tower, library and I guess learn about tieflings' secret passage at the market.

Then you tell Irabeth you're ready, get xp, rewards, a party select Screen - and you can press ESC and go explore at your leisure. She'll wait.

They XP you get from the siege defense itself is about the same as the XP you get for getting to grey garrison ahead of time. Everything that goes on after the siege defense is extra for playing after.

Yeah, probably. I don't think the Nabasu, plagued horses and some swarms are very significant xp. Disarming that super-trap in the Garrison with your party (rather than tieflings' NPC's) gives way more.

 

[Parabalus]

Then you tell Irabeth you're ready, get xp, rewards, a party select Screen - and you can press ESC and go explore at your leisure. She'll wait.

Looks like that was changed in a patch, used to not repopulate the marketplace.

 

[Haplo]

Then you tell Irabeth you're ready, get xp, rewards, a party select Screen - and you can press ESC and go explore at your leisure. She'll wait.

Looks like that was changed in a patch, used to not repopulate the marketplace.

It does not. However we're speaking about 2 minor groups + the Nabasu.

 

[CthuluIsSpy]

I noticed that the enemy is using AoO attacks when my units attack. Since when could they do that? I did not notice that happening earlier in the game, it only started in act 3.

 

[LannTheStupid]

At least one attack of opportunity always happens on disengagement, no matter the level of enemies. So if you are playing turn-based, you need to pay attention to your enemies' zones of control, and if you are playing RTwP, you need to micromanage your melee better.

 

[Cyberarmy]

I noticed that the enemy is using AoO attacks when my units attack. Since when could they do that? I did not notice that happening earlier in the game, it only started in act 3.

You characters can be disarmed and attacking unarmed, without improved unarmed attack triggers AoO or attacking some kind of parrying mob, though I never seen that kind of parry in my playthroughs.

 

[Yosharian]

The most annoying cunts that disarm are those guys with the Sticky ability where you suffer disarm checks every time you attack them

The DCs are very high on the higher difficulties and immunity/bonuses against disarm don't work properly because of course they don't this is Owlcat

Demodand Destroyer or something like that I think they are called

 

[CthuluIsSpy]

The most annoying cunts that disarm are those guys with the Sticky ability where you suffer disarm checks every time you attack them

The DCs are very high on the higher difficulties and immunity/bonuses against disarm don't work properly because of course they don't this is Owlcat

Demodand Destroyer or something like that I think they are called

That must be it. It tends to happen when demodands are involved.

 

[CthuluIsSpy]

At least one attack of opportunity always happens on disengagement, no matter the level of enemies. So if you are playing turn-based, you need to pay attention to your enemies' zones of control, and if you are playing RTwP, you need to micromanage your melee better.

I wasn't disengaging though, I was just attacking.

 

[LannTheStupid]

Is there any situation in which Life Bubble is better than Delay Poison, Communal, given the way both spells are implemented in Wrath of the Righteous?

Also, can Ranger's spell Chameleon Stride replace Blur? Meaning: do I need Blur if I can have a 24-hour Chameleon Stride, Greater?

 

[Delterius]

Is there any situation in which Life Bubble is better than Delay Poison, Communal, given the way both spells are implemented in Wrath of the Righteous?

I believe so yes. I remember some fights with ghosts or wraiths where I had to employ Life Bubble. Can't recall the specifics though, only that it involved a spell cast by the enemy. Some things are bad for breathing but aren't poison per se.

 

[scytheavatar]

Also, can Ranger's spell Chameleon Stride replace Blur? Meaning: do I need Blur if I can have a 24-hour Chameleon Stride, Greater?

20% miss chance is too little, you can't rely on it to survive. Either get Greater Invisibility/Displacement or get yourself a Shaman to spam Protective Luck.

 

[Average Manatee]

20% miss chance is fine since its min/level and you can have it on for the whole dungeon. Blur is also level 2 so there's basically no reason not to fill your slots with it once you don't need the +4 individual stat buffs, unless you really love Scorching Ray and Sense Vitals. Greater invis and displacement rnd/level and therefore strictly for bosses or other very tough battles. You can only keep protective luck up on one guy* when you should want to protect your whole party or at least 3-4 frontliners. And you can stack concealment and protective luck anyway.

* If you are one of those people who thinks keeping hexes up on your whole party by spending 10 mins real time laughing at the start of the dungeon is a valid strategy then you should consider just accepting the fact that you're playing on too high a difficulty. Alternatively just kill yourself.

re: Chamelon Stride, it says it doesn't work on enemies within 5 feet. Not sure how that works in practice. Considering its only 1 slot though its fine to have on just for the characters that aren't in melee, but probably doesn't replace blur for those in melee.

 

[scytheavatar]

20% miss chance is fine since its min/level and you can have it on for the whole dungeon. Blur is also level 2 so there's basically no reason not to fill your slots with it once you don't need the +4 individual stat buffs, unless you really love Scorching Ray and Sense Vitals. Greater invis and displacement rnd/level and therefore strictly for bosses or other very tough battles. You can only keep protective luck up on one guy* when you should want to protect your whole party or at least 3-4 frontliners. And you can stack concealment and protective luck anyway.

* If you are one of those people who thinks keeping hexes up on your whole party by spending 10 mins real time laughing at the start of the dungeon is a valid strategy then you should consider just accepting the fact that you're playing on too high a difficulty. Alternatively just kill yourself.

re: Chamelon Stride, it says it doesn't work on enemies within 5 feet. Not sure how that works in practice. Considering its only 1 slot though its fine to have on just for the characters that aren't in melee, but probably doesn't replace blur for those in melee.

The AI of this game is very predictable, you usually will not have a hard time baiting the AI to attack the guy who initiated the combat. That is why Protective Luck is so good.

 

[Average Manatee]

Anyone know exactly how initiative works in real time? Does beating enemy initiative by more mean that the delay before they can act is greater? Does that also work for my own allies?

The AI of this game is very predictable, you usually will not have a hard time baiting the AI to attack the guy who initiated the combat. That is why Protective Luck is so good.

I mean I run at least 3-4 frontliners at basically all times and I want to chew through battles rather than manually spam protective luck every 6 seconds. For the very early game, talking prologue/Act 1, yeah I do that a lot. Can't imagine doing it all game.

 

[CthuluIsSpy]

Is there any situation in which Life Bubble is better than Delay Poison, Communal, given the way both spells are implemented in Wrath of the Righteous?

Also, can Ranger's spell Chameleon Stride replace Blur? Meaning: do I need Blur if I can have a 24-hour Chameleon Stride, Greater?

Doesn't life bubble work on Acid Cloud and Mind Fog? I know Delay Poison doesn't work on the latter after fighting those bug headed demons in Arleelu's lab.

 

[Mr. Magniloquent]

Anyone know exactly how initiative works in real time? Does beating enemy initiative by more mean that the delay before they can act is greater? Does that also work for my own allies?

Enemies with lower initiative cannot act outside of moving and are considered flatfooted (feats not withstanding). Notice the little countdown timer above each character when a battle commences. What's a little fuzzy to me is the duration. My guess is that the worse your initiative roll is, the longer it takes before you can perform an action, up to a maximum of 6 seconds (1 round). It's enough for me to know that if my number is smaller, I get to act first and they are flatfooted.

 

[CthuluIsSpy]

Do you permanently lose a hex with the Wandering Hex feat?
I currently have it set on Evil Eye, if I move it from that to Fortune will I permanently lose it, or will I get it back after a while?

 

[Average Manatee]

My guess is that the worse your initiative roll is, the longer it takes before you can perform an action, up to a maximum of 6 seconds (1 round). It's enough for me to know that if my number is smaller, I get to act first and they are flatfooted.

That's my guess too. It would make stacking initiative better. If winning by e.g. only 1 point on the initiative roll means you only get 1/10th of a round advantage over the enemy then that's almost nothing and probably wasted just walking up to them. On the other hand stacking it really, really high on one character might be bad if it made your other characters actually act slower.

 

[Desiderius]

Then you tell Irabeth you're ready, get xp, rewards, a party select Screen - and you can press ESC and go explore at your leisure. She'll wait.

Looks like that was changed in a patch, used to not repopulate the marketplace.

It does not. However we're speaking about 2 minor groups + the Nabasu.

Nabasu Amulet is 7,500 GP

 

[Desiderius]

The most annoying cunts that disarm are those guys with the Sticky ability where you suffer disarm checks every time you attack them

The DCs are very high on the higher difficulties and immunity/bonuses against disarm don't work properly because of course they don't this is Owlcat

Demodand Destroyer or something like that I think they are called

That must be it. It tends to happen when demodands are involved.

The ability is called Adhesion. Tarry Demodands are, you know, tarry (sticky). Gormandizer has highest DC I think. It's a highish but makeable Reflex check if you're managing your Saves well, but of course if you have a gazillion attax that's a lot of saves, especially without Unarmed training since that triggers AoOs.

Disarming a Maralith is particularly fun since it will then tirgger an AoO whevever it attax (eight times per round or whatever). Maybe best to let the pets and ranged handle those fights.

 

[Desiderius]

Is there any situation in which Life Bubble is better than Delay Poison, Communal, given the way both spells are implemented in Wrath of the Righteous?

Also, can Ranger's spell Chameleon Stride replace Blur? Meaning: do I need Blur if I can have a 24-hour Chameleon Stride, Greater?

Doesn't life bubble work on Acid Cloud and Mind Fog? I know Delay Poison doesn't work on the latter after fighting those bug headed demons in Arleelu's lab.

You want both. Bubble protect from Disease in addition to the ones you mention while Delay is just Posion.

 

[CthuluIsSpy]

Yeah, I have Delay Poison and See Invisibility up as a policy. Both last for about an hour so a single cast is enough for a map.

 

[CthuluIsSpy]

What's the point of no return in Act 3? I'm holding off Ivory Sanctum because there's still some places I want to explore before moving onto the next act.