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Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Game of the Year Edition

Desiderius

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There’s skill checks and then there’s skill checks. Autopassing Stealth checks on World map without Aru is non-trivial as is Intimidating (and now Bluffing) bosses. High Stealth plus Vanish also allows removing traps from tough spots out of combat and winning surprise rounds.

Missing a key map location because Perception whiffed is a pain, and in some locations making the Religion skill check while resting is no gimme. Getting food squared away before items show up to help and later for Demon meals requires significant Know World, and UMD for in combat scrolls can get pretty high too.

And then there’s the Mounted Combat Feats that give a big payoff to jacking up Mobility as high as you can.
 

Desiderius

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They fixed letting AreeSu LARPing as Yaniel in Drezen Citadel get eaten by Ghouls to get her armor and items.
 

Desiderius

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This is hilarious:

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At end of Sacred Lands you're supposed to be stuck fighting a Lilitu solo while the rest of the party takes a couple rounds to scramble in to help.

Halsin, er, Ulbrig is so determined to get it on that he takes her up in his arms from three screens away. Note that the cursor is not x-ed out.

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Did not see Seelah showing Ember the back of her hand coming.
 

MjKorz

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Just finished the Last of the Sarkorians DLC fully for the first time. Pretty underwhelming experience, to say the least. Aside from Ulbrig being introduced as a companion with his own dialogue interjections and party banter, content involves mostly just revisiting the same 3 areas in chapters 2 (only 1/3 areas), 3 and 5. I'm not going to judge the quality of writing and whether Ulbrig is a well-written and interesting character - that's extremely subjective, but personally I thought it was passable in the sense that Ulbrig seemed to fit reasonably well into the party narrative wise, although his rude interactions with cute and fluffy Nenio were extremely cringe.

Encounter design was mostly undead (both corporeal and incorporeal) and swarms with some demons here and there and felt extremely lazy. The whole DLC has only two encounters of note: Kabriri champions and the Sarkorian Kinslayer. Outside of these two encounters, everything else is just a forgettable pile of trash mobs that you mindlessly autoattack into chunky bits. It was nice of Owlcat to add Swarmbane Clasps to bypass swarm DR, but at the same time it felt like P2W cheating. I still prefer the tried and true method of bypassing swarm DR via Bane of Spirit damage conversion into Force.

The Kabriri pale champions are two boss tier enemies in chapter 3 you have to fight at the same time and kill within one round, otherwise they resurrect each other. One of them is a nasty spellcaster who needs to be immediately taken out of the fight before the battle even starts, the other is a melee attacker with a massive reflex save. Since both are undead, they have a myriad of immunities, but are still vulnerable to Prone. For me, the winning strategy was to Prone the caster with Winter's Grasp and then immediately rush to his position, waiting for the melee champion to close in and then tie him up with a tank:
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While both are technically vulnerable to prone, the melee attacker's Reflex save is too high for him to be incapacitated reliably, though he can still drop on an unlucky save roll. Once both are engaged/incapacitated, beating them down is not an issue for a properly buffed dedicated damage dealer:
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The Sarkorian Kinslayer was Owlcat's attempt at making a "non-standard" boss fight where they throw some gimmick mechanics at you. It's buffed by multiple totems that turn into spirit enemies when killed and you have to destroy the totems to remove the buffs... except you actually don't. If you have a beefy enough martial and a good cleric (and at this point in the game you probably do), you can just pre-drop the usual Guarded Hearth before the fight starts, then buff your martial with everything you have including Vision of Madness (Attack) and Touch of Good and boost your attack bonus into the stratosphere, way above the meager 100+ AC the Kinslayer has on unfair. Alternatively, you can just dispel all of his totem buffs despite the buffs being described as being granted "constantly" which to me sounds like they should be renewed instantly:
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Once you dispel him, he still has a whole bucketload of immunities, but, surprisingly, he's not immune to Prone, which means he can be easily (by a fully dedicated and properly built DC caster) taken out of the fight via spells like Grease, Winter's Grasp and Sirocco:
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Note that while he has the Spell Turning effect that reflects spells and spell-like abilities back at the caster, it doesn't affect AoE spells targeted on the ground and also does not affect the Touch of Law domain ability (forces the target to take 11 on most rolls including saves) since it's technically a buff and almost all single target buffs are accepted by enemies automatically due to being considered beneficial.

Alternatively, since this fight takes place in chapter 5 after you've potentially been to the Bladesmith's workshop, you can just outright Weird him with the Grandmaster's rod in one round:
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Also, at the start of the fight, he seems to be hardcoded to attack Ulbrig which basically gives you a free round, if you grant Ulbrig Last Stand or make him tanky enough to not die in one flurry.

At the end of the DLC, you get to choose a nice popamole artifact (picture shamelessly stolen from ribbit):
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I like the one with the elemental spell DC bonus the best. Works nicely for Sirocco, Greater Shout, Stormbolts and Mass Icy Prison.
 
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Desiderius

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The way to stop the caster is to Grapple it with Ulbrig. Probably why the fight was designed this way.
 

zapotec

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I struggle to find Harrim compelling, his motives for worshipping Groetus just seem shallow and petulant

'My life was difficult so I became a nihilist' just doesn't grab me, he comes off as an emo cunt

A lot of these characters* probably get better later tbf, I just haven't gotten that far with them

*Not Amiri
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So I faught a battle in Drezen just before the last boss there and 3 of my characters died.

Afterwards in EVERY SINGLE ONE of my quick saves these characters are dead and the game always loads my party in a specific seemingly random spot (where the fake banner was)...
 

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So I faught a battle in Drezen just before the last boss there and 3 of my characters died.

Afterwards in EVERY SINGLE ONE of my quick saves these characters are dead and the game always loads my party in a specific seemingly random spot (where the fake banner was)...

Sounds [owlcat] but easily fixable?
 

MjKorz

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So I faught a battle in Drezen just before the last boss there and 3 of my characters died.

Afterwards in EVERY SINGLE ONE of my quick saves these characters are dead and the game always loads my party in a specific seemingly random spot (where the fake banner was)...
Do you have outdated mods installed? I never had problems with saves, but I play purely vanilla.
 

user

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Yeah got some mods, TTT, EC, Toybox, but they have been recently updated.
The autosaves were ok for some reason and with Toybox you can fix most of these things, but scary bug nonetheless.
 

Desiderius

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I too like that necklace best, but that belt would be difficult to pass up. It's busted even by WotR standards.
The Belt is a troll. There should be an achievement for wiping with that Belt. I think the Ulbrig troops for Crusade mode are a troll too.
 

sosmoflux

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Is this game worth playing if you have a low tolerance for millennial writing and such baggage? Might try it on Playstation
 

the mole

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monks are basically homeless people so they should be allowed to be chaotic, thoughts
 

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