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Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Game of the Year Edition

CthuluIsSpy

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For a game about crusading against demons there's not much crusading. I was expecting Warhammer with legions of pikemen supported by warrior priests against a tide of horrors. What I got were a bunch of quirky millennials who never picked up whatever Pathfinder's version of a bible is.
The only character that actually felt like he was on a crusade was Regil.
 

Anonymous Ranger

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Very surprised that Woljit got a mod all to himself. I never thought he was a very popular character. He always seemed kind of bland and forgettable.

I feel like most of the companions in this game are bland in the extreme, so much so it ends up feeling like a cheap trick to have a few of the characters to have solid arcs that subvert expectations..
I found myself liking the evil companions much better than the good alined ones. Cam, Regil and Wenduag are the best in my opinion with Sosiel and Seelah being my least favorite. Cam is pretty one note but it’s in away that’s so much different then companions in most games that I was ok with it. I still think Kingmaker had the better companions though.
 

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Regill is great and based, I liked Ember, Arueshalae is not bad either, Daeran was good as well, Woljif is a bit bland basic rogue-character, but not as bad as Lann, Seelah and Soysiel. Greybor is pretty toned down but it fits his character. Nenio is by far the worst companion in almost any crpg I have ever played.

Seelah being the way she is probably because of Paizo.
 

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Nenio is a sterling example of shitty millennial writing. An annoying git who keeps talking dumb bullshit that should have been smote already. All those demon lords and liches kept saying they want to waste her but they never do it because of plot armour.
If she were a literal trickster god I'd understand that, but she's just some fox with a tik tok user's idea of what Austism should look like.
 

scytheavatar

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Think most players in TT either hand their DMs a list of prebuff spells they want to cast before every combat if they have the preparation time, or their DMs tell them they can't prebuff. Unless it is something that make senses like casting protection from fire before fighting a dragon.
 

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Can anyone explain to me how the Call for Reserves decree works? In the description it writes that an army of 327 strength will appear, when I actually execute the decree, that number lowered to 16. Is this a bug or is there some weird Owlcat logic behind it?
 

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Does it even work that way on the PnP version? Like, do players spend something like an hour applying their buffs?
You get in a rhythm.

Adjusting buff sequences takes awhile either way.

Can anyone explain to me how the Call for Reserves decree works? In the description it writes that an army of 327 strength will appear, when I actually execute the decree, that number lowered to 16. Is this a bug or is there some weird Owlcat logic behind it?
It scales by number of troops lost. Let's you come back from getting wiped.
 

Desiderius

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Wish his brother was a properly fleshed out companion.
Using the brother to dunk on/create an appropriate storyline for 3.5 style multiclassing was pretty interesting.

Mostly a clusterfuck but could be made reasonably decent by lvl 20 by taking all Barb levels and Cleave/two-hander feats with Crippling Blows.
 

Desiderius

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Nenio is a sterling example of shitty millennial writing. An annoying git who keeps talking dumb bullshit that should have been smote already. All those demon lords and liches kept saying they want to waste her but they never do it because of plot armour.
If she were a literal trickster god I'd understand that, but she's just some fox with a tik tok user's idea of what Austism should look like.

The trooning is the problem (which is itself at least half a troll). Hero with the 'tism who keeps blundering into fourth wall would have appealed to a lot of people. Dungeon of Nahollaback/Dungeons of Dredmor/Munchkin crowd.

As it is Kitsune Illusionist Scroll Savant does great job filling caster role until it gets too good (even for Unfair) with Weird. Rainbow Pattern/Phatasmal Web (with Nauseate fixed)/Phantasmal Putrefaction are great midgame spells.

Similarly Seelah has no real character arc but the challenge of getting there with her as a tank is a great mini-game. Reward being getting Mark of Justice and Fear Immunity for team.
 
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CthuluIsSpy

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I want my PTSD'd blackguard companion, fam.

You take your Don Lemon priest and you like it.
> Gay black priest
> Bi-sexual hedonistic twink divine caster.
The crusade has fallen. Millions must do penance.

That said, I liked Daeran more than Sosiel. Sosiel is pretty cringe and the romance trigger is pretty bad. Apparently all you have to do to get him to try courting you is to be nice and compliment his art. That's it. After that he starts doing lame shit like passing you messages and crap.
 
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I want my PTSD'd blackguard companion, fam.

You take your Don Lemon priest and you like it.
> Gay black priest
> Bi-sexual hedonistic twink divine caster.
The crusade has fallen. Millions must do penance.

That said, I liked Daeran more than Sosiel. Sosiel is pretty cringe and the romance trigger is pretty bad. Apparently all you have to do to get him to try courting you is to be nice and compliment his art. That's it. After that he starts doing lame shit like passing you messages and crap.
Daeran is honestly kinda based
 

Nas92

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Can anyone explain to me how the Call for Reserves decree works? In the description it writes that an army of 327 strength will appear, when I actually execute the decree, that number lowered to 16. Is this a bug or is there some weird Owlcat logic behind it?
It scales by number of troops lost. Let's you come back from getting wiped.
Thanks, I knew it was some kind of Owlcat logic. Is this indicated somewhere in the game and I'm once again a dumbfuck for not having paid attention? I never would have figured this shit out by myself.
Also, it seems a bit weird to essentially penalize me for not having lost a lot of troops. I put the same amount into reserves so I guess these are essentially wasted unless I suddenly incur a huge amount of losses.
 

Desiderius

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Can anyone explain to me how the Call for Reserves decree works? In the description it writes that an army of 327 strength will appear, when I actually execute the decree, that number lowered to 16. Is this a bug or is there some weird Owlcat logic behind it?
It scales by number of troops lost. Let's you come back from getting wiped.
Thanks, I knew it was some kind of Owlcat logic. Is this indicated somewhere in the game and I'm once again a dumbfuck for not having paid attention? I never would have figured this shit out by myself.
Also, it seems a bit weird to essentially penalize me for not having lost a lot of troops. I put the same amount into reserves so I guess these are essentially wasted unless I suddenly incur a huge amount of losses.

It was recently added to give tards an out from completely screwing themselves. Probably should have been there the whole time. It's not exactly intuitive that losing significant troops in a battle can snowball into sucking the whole game (or not making it there at all).
 
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It also allows you to delete all of the shitty random troops you get that won't stack and concentrate your numbers into what you actually use.

I think it works on literally any troop type meaning you could get a bunch of dragons out of it if dragons are all you use or w/e. Not saying that the conversion rate is going to be good though.
 

Desiderius

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I want my PTSD'd blackguard companion, fam.

You take your Don Lemon priest and you like it.
> Gay black priest
> Bi-sexual hedonistic twink divine caster.
The crusade has fallen. Millions must do penance.

That said, I liked Daeran more than Sosiel. Sosiel is pretty cringe and the romance trigger is pretty bad. Apparently all you have to do to get him to try courting you is to be nice and compliment his art. That's it. After that he starts doing lame shit like passing you messages and crap.
Daeran is honestly kinda based

The evil of both Daeran and Regill (especially Regill) is a gratuitous add-on that doesn't fit with the essence of either character. Meanwhile Cam and Wend are caricatures of female evil straight from the old manosphere archives.

P:K did a better job handling evil than Wrath does. Not great at good either. The Poz is at heart nonjudgmental so struggles with moral categorization.

That said both Daeran and Regill are great characters with based and incisive takes on the particular societal failings with which we've become all too familiar in a way that Soyer can't quite muster due to his own blinders.

As for Sosiel, he does somehow manage to, uh, bring the woman back out in Anevia...

Sosiel detransing Anervia.jpg

Seelah smacking down bleeding heart Ember is another odd one:

Seelah rebuking Ember.jpg

Regill's character distilled:

Regill ownage.jpg

Don't get the Nenio hate. This one is stone cold:

Nenio pwning Baph.jpg

Speaking of Stone Cold (salesman character race specific scrolls are clever):

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Don't do romance arcs, but maybe for Arsinoe I could make an exception:

Arsinoe Romance.jpg

Regill gets the final, and best, word (are the Soyerite relativists listening?):

It's You.jpg
 

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