Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Fedora Master]

I really want to get rid of Seelah - What's a good tanky replacement class, merc-wise? I guess with the power levels being what they are the classic heavy armor/shield approach won't work.

 

[Yosharian]

All new talking weapons including even Lilarcor are just annoying meme at this point. Planescape did it because it was a game about even items having memories of TNOs pasts; other RPGs used them as checklist gimmick instead.

How dare you. Lilarcor is an absolute treasure.

 

[LannTheStupid]

Saark it is all well understood. What I do not like is the fact that you're basing your arguments on this inevitability and consider this "OK'ish". This is an explicit affront against a very specific group, which definitely represents the majority of gamers. Whether it is the majority of the population or not is another matter.

What to do with it is another matter, too. I enjoy the fact that, apparently, Owlcat Games made a fortune on this. There is some subversion as well - at least 2 Mythic Paths (from what I saw) can straight up kill Irabeth. Also, there is life - people of all the letters of LGBTQI+ soup exist. And, for sure, there are other games, like Black Book, with only white heterosexual men and women and some devilry.

All of this does not make an affront not an affront. What I don't like - not in the game, but in your arguments - that it seems to me you are trying to disguise that. Maybe I'm just wrong.

 

[Desiderius]

yooo I managed to beat the Shield Maze Water Elemental on Core finally!

I think they put the Cold Resist potion back in so you’re one of the last to master it hard as style. Wasted me this time.

 

[Saark]

Welp, stuck in the second Demon Mythic Path questline. After running around Alushinyrra to find Information about Areelu, and doing the fight in the Brothel and Arena, I ask Yozz to teleport me back to the Palace and I am greeted with a game over screen every time. Lovely. Not annoying enough already that you're running around with almost no movespeed as you are by yourself during those sequences but have the full party inventory.

 

[smaug]

>opens up crusade management

>uninstall

god why, I don’t want to do this again

 

[Saark]

All of this does not make an affront not an affront. What I don't like - not in the game, but in your arguments - that it seems to me you are trying to disguise that. Maybe I'm just wrong.

You are wrong with that assumption, yes.

 

[Fedora Master]

I find it incredibly funny that suddenly a bunch of Russkis are defending a game they would otherwise deride as cucked western bullshit if it was made by any other dev.

 

[Gradenmayer]

Dude, I cannot. They did they same exact fuck-ups they did the last game.

Dogshit optimization with shitton of memory leaks, visual glitches and game ruining bugs (including bugs that were fixed in the first game, like enemies becoming immortal for no reason). How fucking retarded do you have to be to make the same bugs AGAIN?
Half of the damn game you will spend on loading screens! Why does it have to load in to every open world battle, house, map, crusade encounter? Holy shit!

Not even gonna mention ridiculous number bloat to add artificial difficulty, because the AI for the enemies is below single digit. All the billion spells, feats and skills add into tactic of "prebuff correctly, dispell and right click to win". There is no clever use of geometry, no uniquely structured encounters, it's all "dump a bunch of enemies on you to right click".

Writing, story, plot and most of the characters are trash. Writers are mouthbreathers, who never heard about 'prose style' and 'show don't tell' in middle school. I haven't seen text this dry since I've played Outer Worlds. Half of the companions are cringe, the other half are just bearable (not fucking up grounded witty-guy and serious, rational, determined knight is not an achievement nowadays, sorry).

Crusade mode is pure essence of retardation and wasted resources. Why do you add unnecessary trash like this instead of improving other parts of the game? If people wanted to play constipated version HoMM they would just play one of the mirriad mods for their game.

Every fucking moment I spent in this game can be described as 'its fine, but could be done better' stretched over 100 hours.

Build autism, mythic paths and reactivity were the only things that improved in this game. All other aspects have either stagnated or became worse. I honestly wouldn't give this more than 6 out of 10. Which leaves me buffled with some retards that present this as god-tier game here. Get the fuck out with that bullshit!

 

[Dishonoredbr]

I really want to get rid of Seelah - What's a good tanky replacement class, merc-wise? I guess with the power levels being what they are the classic heavy armor/shield approach won't work.

Just use Camellia

 

[Fedora Master]

I really want to get rid of Seelah - What's a good tanky replacement class, merc-wise? I guess with the power levels being what they are the classic heavy armor/shield approach won't work.

Just use Camellia

That's even worse. I hate the Shaman class, although I couldn't tell you why. Something about... gah. To say nothing of her personality.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

reminder: no matter how woke you are, they will eventually come for you too.

this is the crazy woman who flipped out on gw2 players and got fired for it iirc btw

 

[Yosharian]

Yes it truly is a mystery why you are 'buffled'

 

[Ontopoly]

Going to respec into sacred huntsmaster, because Druid sucks

Thac0 Ontopoly

Druid gang, ATTACK

They nerfed/fixed stalactites and everything has damage reduction so it's all over for druids.

 

[Gradenmayer]

Yes it truly is a mystery why you are 'buffled'

Find 20 more of those spelling errors and I will be 'good' enough to write for the next OwlCat game.

 

[Dishonoredbr]

I really want to get rid of Seelah - What's a good tanky replacement class, merc-wise? I guess with the power levels being what they are the classic heavy armor/shield approach won't work.

Just use Camellia

That's even worse. I hate the Shaman class, although I couldn't tell you why. Something about... gah. To say nothing of her personality.

Yeah , Shaman is super wacky. I just made her a buff bot that can get high AC. She doesn't anything particular outside of not getting beat , most of the time..

 

[NJClaw]

I really want to get rid of Seelah - What's a good tanky replacement class, merc-wise? I guess with the power levels being what they are the classic heavy armor/shield approach won't work.

Almost any class can become tanky, if you are willing to use buffs. Since you're playing a Sohei, you can boost your horse's AC to make him unhittable without having to waste a character as a "tank" (your characters should really do more impactful things than soaking up hits). Make him Bulky (or whatever the archetype that gives armor proficiency is called) and cast Shield of Faith, Barkskin, Cat's Grace, and Shield on him. Take Impossible Domain: Nobility on your Cleric for the Insight bonus, and you should be set. So I guess my answer is an Alchemist, since it allows you to cast both Shield and Barkskin on your mount. Make him a Vivisectionist if you also need a melee fighter or an Incense Synthesizer for the alchemical bonus to hit.

Personally, right now I'm using a Bard Seelah as my "tanky" character. With a light armor, a shield, the Dodge feats, and Crane Style, she is sitting on AC 40 since level 6. I'm playing her as a Dirge Bard, but using the Tranquil Whisperer archetype you could snatch a couple more points of AC (I prefer Inspire Courage, but once you reach level 8 you can use Inspire Tranquility when you need better defense and Dirge of Doom when you need better offence, even though I guess that the AC bonus of Inspire Tranquility can't compete with the general usefulness of Dirge of Doom... I guess it depends on how many enemies are immune to it).

Now that I think about it, I can't wait to try an all-performers party, consisting only of halfling Bards and Skalds. With the insane amount of different archetypes (Dirge Bard, standard Skald, Tranquil Whisperer, Beast Tamer, Archeologist, Court Poet, Hunt Caller, and Battle Singer) it sounds more than possible.

 

[Yosharian]

For starters who even is claiming it is a god-tier game?

 

[smaug]

Sad to see Drezen is just another empty and boring stronghold with nothing interesting. Was expecting some decent interactivity and whatnot, at least something better than Pitax and your kingdom in kingmaker would have been nice.

 

[Rafidur]

I really want to get rid of Seelah - What's a good tanky replacement class, merc-wise? I guess with the power levels being what they are the classic heavy armor/shield approach won't work.

Primal Bloodrager is ridiculously good for a big armored hit-dudes guy.

 

[Fedora Master]

I really want to get rid of Seelah - What's a good tanky replacement class, merc-wise? I guess with the power levels being what they are the classic heavy armor/shield approach won't work.

Almost any class can become tanky, if you are willing to use buffs. Since you're playing a Sohei, you can boost your horse's AC to make him unhittable without having to waste a character as a "tank" (your characters should really do more impactful things than soaking up hits). Make him Bulky (or whatever the archetype that gives armor proficiency is called) and cast Shield of Faith, Barkskin, Cat's Grace, and Shield on him. Take Impossible Domain: Nobility on your Cleric for the Insight bonus, and you should be set. So I guess my answer is an Alchemist, since it allows you to cast both Shield and Barkskin on your mount. Make him a Vivisectionist if you also need a melee fighter or an Incense Synthesizer for the alchemical bonus to hit.

Personally, right now I'm using a Bard Seelah as my "tanky" character. With a light armor, a shield, the Dodge feats, and Crane Style, she is sitting on AC 40 since level 6.

Fair enough, although I made my horsie a Daredevil on a whim and I'm reluctant to respec due to the bug. Ultimately tanking relies on Blur and Displacement anyway, that much I know. Let me rephrase the question: Which martial class is a decent frontliner out of the box? Bloodrager seems pretty fucking OP from what I heard.

 

[Shadenuat]

Wrath wiki having no Druid spells is like a personal attack on everything I hold most dear.

Spoiler

 

[Saark]

The entire Demon Mythic Path seems incredibly buggy. As you get to make a stint in Alushinyrrah during Chapter 3 already, a lot of characters, skillchecks, items and interactions are already present, even though they shouldn't be. Getting dialogue interference from the Hand of the Inheritor when talking to certain NPCs (that probably shouldnt be present in the first place), including a soft-locking of the game and forcing a reload to before I started the quest. Awesome.

 

[Shadenuat]

^Azata did this.

 

[Yosharian]

Imagine playing an Owlcat game before it's been patched for 12 months straight