Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[volklore]

Just use lesser quicken rods, there should be a few around.

Wrath does not have any quicken rods until act 4. Only source of quicken pre-act 4 are a 1/day quicken hat and a rod that's exclusive to lich I believe

 

[Grunker]

That's... really desperate.
I really wanted to like Ember, I really did. But her spell selection... ugh... apart from farting and sending some shinnies at the enemies, there's almost nothing there...

So I benched her. Nenio does the arcane duty, while Cam gives enemies the Evil Eye. At least she can offtank and be a mild DD/backline protector too.

Just respec companions like I'm planning to do once I play this thing. That has the primary benefit of you getting to toy around with 6 crafty builds instead of just 1

 

[Haplo]

That's... really desperate.
I really wanted to like Ember, I really did. But her spell selection... ugh... apart from farting and sending some shinnies at the enemies, there's almost nothing there...

So I benched her. Nenio does the arcane duty, while Cam gives enemies the Evil Eye. At least she can offtank and be a mild DD/backline protector too.

Just respec companions like I'm planning to do once I play this thing. That has the primary benefit of you getting to toy around with 6 crafty builds instead of just 1

Well, actually, I did fully respec Nenio to a Brown Fur Transmuter. Best support/CC class evar!

Ember though... don't want to change her too much. Also like hexes a lot - even moreso with Jinx (that is one early OP weapon - even moreso with
Imp Critical + Mythic at level 9!). So yesterday I rolled her back a little and started the Arcane Trickster path for her. Should be better with her rays that way, while keeping the crucial level 8 Evil Eye, Protective Luck, Cackle and Vulnerability.

 

[ga♥]

That's... really desperate.
I really wanted to like Ember, I really did. But her spell selection... ugh... apart from farting and sending some shinnies at the enemies, there's almost nothing there...

So I benched her. Nenio does the arcane duty, while Cam gives enemies the Evil Eye. At least she can offtank and be a mild DD/backline protector too.

Just respec companions like I'm planning to do once I play this thing. That has the primary benefit of you getting to toy around with 6 crafty builds instead of just 1

Well, actually, I did fully respec Nenio to a Brown Fur Transmuter. Best support/CC class evar!

Ember though... don't want to change her too much. Also like hexes a lot - even moreso with Jinx (that is one early OP weapon - even moreso with
Imp Critical + Mythic at level 9!). So yesterday I rolled her back a little and started the Arcane Trickster path for her. Should be better with her rays that way, while keeping the crucial level 8 Evil Eye, Protective Luck, Cackle and Vulnerability.

Only good hex you will lose is the one that gives free bite attack, and there's also the level delay (but not a big deal). I have been using Ember as arcane trickster in Act V and she is pretty nice for those AC 90 enemies with ray stuff, if you dip in vivi she also gets +2 DEX and that helps too. Does not fit the character RP wise but oh well.

 

[Sergiu64]

I went to playing BG2 instead and I think the writing is better even if it’s not great, maybe I’m just not a fan of owlcat writing in particular. Haven’t played any of the new CRPGS.

Well yeah, there's a reason why bg2 is always in top 5 rpg lists. Its also a game from decades ago - one needs to accept reality that we won't be seeing quality writing like that all that often - and enjoy what we do get.

 

[Haplo]

Yeah, kinda shame about the bite. Though my main is a kitsune, so already has one bite. Bite stacking is kinda weird (a little bit of hypocrisy here, as I'm one of those who started the trend in Kingmaker, I guess).
Anyway, I guess I will do fine without it here - and no Cloak of the Winter Wolf.

 

[volklore]

I am still holding on to the hope that we'll get Cleric/Druid/Wizard spell secret in loremaster as advertised at some point. Would help fix a lot of awkward spell lists.

 

[Anonymous Wife Scholar]

Spoiler

What! Nicolas of the Cage anon birth date is Day 7 Month I anon! It is! What!

 

[Sheepherder]

Just use lesser quicken rods, there should be a few around.

Wrath does not have any quicken rods until act 4. Only source of quicken pre-act 4 are a 1/day quicken hat and a rod that's exclusive to lich I believe

And since I'm LG I can't even use the hat. Is it still bugged btw? I think it used to provide unlimited Quickened spells.

 

[smaug]

Conan Are you going to post the true story of the game? I’d be interested in reading it.

 

[Sunri]

That's... really desperate.
I really wanted to like Ember, I really did. But her spell selection... ugh... apart from farting and sending some shinnies at the enemies, there's almost nothing there...

So I benched her. Nenio does the arcane duty, while Cam gives enemies the Evil Eye. At least she can offtank and be a mild DD/backline protector too.

Just respec companions like I'm planning to do once I play this thing. That has the primary benefit of you getting to toy around with 6 crafty builds instead of just 1

respecting can fuck up your game

 

[Grunker]

That's... really desperate.
I really wanted to like Ember, I really did. But her spell selection... ugh... apart from farting and sending some shinnies at the enemies, there's almost nothing there...

So I benched her. Nenio does the arcane duty, while Cam gives enemies the Evil Eye. At least she can offtank and be a mild DD/backline protector too.

Just respec companions like I'm planning to do once I play this thing. That has the primary benefit of you getting to toy around with 6 crafty builds instead of just 1

respecting can fuck up your game

Everything can currently. Which is why I won't be playing this until June at the earliest.

 

[Sunri]

That's... really desperate.
I really wanted to like Ember, I really did. But her spell selection... ugh... apart from farting and sending some shinnies at the enemies, there's almost nothing there...

So I benched her. Nenio does the arcane duty, while Cam gives enemies the Evil Eye. At least she can offtank and be a mild DD/backline protector too.

Just respec companions like I'm planning to do once I play this thing. That has the primary benefit of you getting to toy around with 6 crafty builds instead of just 1

respecting can fuck up your game

Everything can currently. Which is why I won't be playing this until June at the earliest.

You exaggerate it's not that bad

 

[NJClaw]

respecting can fuck up your game

"Unity Crash Handler detected an excessive amount of respect towards women. Do you want to send a crash report?"

 

[Anonymous Wife Scholar]

respecting can fuck up your game

"Unity Crash Handler detected an excessive amount of respect towards women. Do you want to send a crash report?"

What!

 

[Sharpedge]

respecting can fuck up your game

"Unity Crash Handler detected an excessive amount of respect towards women. Do you want to send a crash report?"

What!

Its respec, short for re-specialization, not respect, which is when you hold someone in high esteem.

 

[Anonymous Wife Scholar]

Its respec, short for re-specialization, not respect, which is when you hold someone in high esteem.

Thank you anon! You are a good anon! I do respect wifes anon! I do! I do respect good anons anon! I do! You are a good anon!

 

[Haplo]

That's... really desperate.
I really wanted to like Ember, I really did. But her spell selection... ugh... apart from farting and sending some shinnies at the enemies, there's almost nothing there...

So I benched her. Nenio does the arcane duty, while Cam gives enemies the Evil Eye. At least she can offtank and be a mild DD/backline protector too.

Just respec companions like I'm planning to do once I play this thing. That has the primary benefit of you getting to toy around with 6 crafty builds instead of just 1

respecting can fuck up your game

Well yeah, after the respec Nenio's level ups are weird. Like the game calculates her current levels PLUS the levels she used to have as a Scroll Savant. So you get to pick way more skill ranks, sometimes more feats.
But after you finish the level up it seems to work okay so far, with the excess levels/skill points/feats truncated.

 

[Jaedar]

That's... really desperate.
I really wanted to like Ember, I really did. But her spell selection... ugh... apart from farting and sending some shinnies at the enemies, there's almost nothing there...

So I benched her. Nenio does the arcane duty, while Cam gives enemies the Evil Eye. At least she can offtank and be a mild DD/backline protector too.

Just respec companions like I'm planning to do once I play this thing. That has the primary benefit of you getting to toy around with 6 crafty builds instead of just 1

Respecing companions is bad for immersion and lore friendlyness. With some exceptions of course (I am sure wendy would assume any training regimen offered by the commander if it showed results). Respecing Ember kinda goes against her "godless prophet" status.

 

[ga♥]

Respec is certainly a risky business, at least on 1.09.
If you respec slayer and try to get a combat feat, i mean the slayer/ranger bonus ones, you have to keep picking the ones in the list only via combat feats, if you pick outside of it even if you meet the requirements it will let you go on but then you won't actually get it.

 

[volklore]

I mean respecing nenio from an int based full arcane castr to another int based full arcane caster isn't exactly super immersion breaking.

 

[Sharpedge]

The only companion I have really been tempted to respec is Daerun and the only thing I want to change is his curse, because its annoying and I feel like the developers were trolling by giving him the most mechanically annoying curse.

 

[Sunri]

The only companion I have really been tempted to respec is Daerun and the only thing I want to change is his curse, because its annoying and I feel like the developers were trolling by giving him the most mechanically annoying curse.

Whats the problem with his curse?

 

[Cryomancer]

Respec makes your decisions worthless. For example, a sorcerer can technically respec and change his spells, getting rid of his class disadvantage. You can respec to have a char optimized to a challenged encounter, some decisions between power early or power later don't matter, it trivializes feat picking. Respec = Decline.

IMO not only we should't have respec but also multiclassing and getting prestige classes should be behind long quest arcs. Eg - A Fighter wanting to get levels in hell knight should visit the hell knight outpost and sign the contract and do the training.

 

[volklore]

Respec makes your decisions worthless. For example, a sorcerer can technically respec and change his spells, getting rid of his class disadvantage. You can respec to have a char optimized to a challenged encounter, some decisions between power early or power later don't matter, it trivializes feat picking. Respec = Decline.

They are talking about using toybox to change companions base class. And as far as in-game respec, as long as some basic class features/feats are broken, respec needs to be in the game. Otherwise I agree on the principle.