Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[purupuru]

Damn it, they patched out Kaylessa's loot. If you kill her in Chapter 2 (Chapter 1 as well I assume), she no longer drops a composite longbow +3 but gives "wooden scrap" instead. The +2 leather armor is still there though.
Why, owlcat why?
I wasn't even trying to murderhobo, I just conveniently failed a perception check and did the reasonable thing!
Reloaded and checked again, I was wrong. The bow is there if you kill her with the option after the perception check, regardless of whether the check fails or not, but if you back out and kill her with the "Evil" option the bow breaks. I looked closer and the text actually says she tries to block your blow with the blow and it breaks (even when it doesn't), so this has been a bug all along I guess?
Time to Alt+B

 

[Daidre]

I've got the bow in chapter 1 yesterday. So no need to delay doing reasonable thing)
Looks like this quest proceed to its conclusion in chapter 3 even after her death. So true murderhobos could get their juicy loot from both elves.

 

[Jaedar]

Is this better than Kingmaker? The second half of that game and especially the end game drained my will to live.

I'd say "definitely yes", but I am comparing rtwp only km against this. No idea how they'd fare with both in tb mode. But I will say that the mythic paths add a lot, as does having a single storyline running through all acts.

 

[Whisper]

Looking for best Throwing axe build for Unfair

(with Weapon finesse, so Dex based)

 

[ArchAngel]

Looking for best Throwing axe build for Unfair

(with Weapon finesse, so Dex based)

Throwing axes are ranged weapon and are automatically using Dex for attack but Str for damage. I don't think you can turn damage into Dex as well, it needs to be a melee weapon for that.

 

[Yosharian]

Supposedly Throwing Axes are benefitting from Manyshot. And most of the Skald stuff works with them too. I wonder if you can use Mythic Weapon Finesse to make them go off DEX entirely... (They stopped that working with bows, but...)

 

[ga♥]

I've got the bow in chapter 1 yesterday. So no need to delay doing reasonable thing)
Looks like this quest proceed to its conclusion in chapter 3 even after her death. So true murderhobos could get their juicy loot from both elves.

So you kill her in market square and you still get attacked by the other guy?

 

[Draconis]

Both games are great and no last chapter is worst part of the game but is not as repetitive as Klangmaker.

The game is absolutely awful, and any of your abilities (including the will to live) will be drained on multiple occasions.

I'd say "definitely yes", but I am comparing rtwp only km against this. No idea how they'd fare with both in tb mode. But I will say that the mythic paths add a lot, as does having a single storyline running through all acts.

Thanks, I will get it when it's on sale next time. My craving for a cRPG outweighs my will to live anyway.

 

[NJClaw]

Sure, why not

 

[Whisper]

I don't think you can turn damage into Dex as well

Yes, you can.

 

[Whisper]

Looking for good build advise for Dex-based throwing axe build (via Fighter and Mythic finesse).

 

[lycanwarrior]

Near the end of the game, just need to march on to Threshold.

However, it is blocked by a level 12 fortress. My main army is still only level 12.

Any quick way to level up my main army aside from skipping days to additional reinforcements to my army?

Is there any major downsides to simply disabling Crusade management at this point? I don't want to spend another 100+ hours on just Crusade army battles.

 

[NJClaw]

However, it is blocked by a level 12 fortress. My main army is still only level 12.

Any quick way to level up my main army aside from skipping days to additional reinforcements to my army?

Is there any major downsides to simply disabling Crusade management at this point? I don't want to spend another 100+ hours on just Crusade army battles.

The level of your army is irrelevant. As long as you have enough units to survive a turn or two, only your general matters. I've used a level 5 army for the entirety of chapter 5.

 

[Camel]

However, it is blocked by a level 12 fortress. My main army is still only level 12.

Any quick way to level up my main army aside from skipping days to additional reinforcements to my army?

Is there any major downsides to simply disabling Crusade management at this point? I don't want to spend another 100+ hours on just Crusade army battles.

The level of your army is irrelevant. As long as you have enough units to survive a turn or two, only your general matters. I've used a level 5 army for the entirety of chapter 5.

The Owlcat devs who designed the whole crusade(HOMM 3 ripoff) mechanic must be sent to Gulag and I tried to be merciful.

 

[Jaedar]

Looking for good build advise for Dex-based throwing axe build (via Fighter and Mythic finesse).

Just go fighter and add in some barb rage?

 

[LannTheStupid]

I wonder how people can "rip off" their own work.

 

[lycanwarrior]

However, it is blocked by a level 12 fortress. My main army is still only level 12.

Any quick way to level up my main army aside from skipping days to additional reinforcements to my army?

Is there any major downsides to simply disabling Crusade management at this point? I don't want to spend another 100+ hours on just Crusade army battles.

The level of your army is irrelevant. As long as you have enough units to survive a turn or two, only your general matters. I've used a level 5 army for the entirety of chapter 5.

Interesting, well I guess I better get them marching then.

 

[lycanwarrior]

However, it is blocked by a level 12 fortress. My main army is still only level 12.

Any quick way to level up my main army aside from skipping days to additional reinforcements to my army?

Is there any major downsides to simply disabling Crusade management at this point? I don't want to spend another 100+ hours on just Crusade army battles.

The level of your army is irrelevant. As long as you have enough units to survive a turn or two, only your general matters. I've used a level 5 army for the entirety of chapter 5.

The Owlcat devs who designed the whole crusade(HOMM 3 ripoff) mechanic must be sent to Gulag and I tried to be merciful.

Lmao, yeah it definitely needs more tutorials for sure. Or at least some more streamlining.

 

[Technomancer]

HOMM 3 ripoff

More like HOMM V when Owlact was Nival.

 

[Cyberarmy]

Near the end of the game, just need to march on to Threshold.

However, it is blocked by a level 12 fortress. My main army is still only level 12.

Any quick way to level up my main army aside from skipping days to additional reinforcements to my army?

Is there any major downsides to simply disabling Crusade management at this point? I don't want to spend another 100+ hours on just Crusade army battles.

Army level is irrevelant, especially if you have a caster general. Even if you don't have a caster general you can use crusade mode spells to weaken enemy armies or buff yours, those abilities change according to your table choices.

 

[Haplo]

HOMM 3 ripoff

More like HOMM V when Owlact was Nival.

I wish.

HOMM V was the pinnacle of the series. With personal Initiative alongside speed (fast units could move like 3 times per 1 move of slow units, like treants... Haste/Slow/Initiative boost/delay sheningans were present and VERY strong), robust hero skill wheels and different hero focus/mechanics depending on race - strongly connected with racial abilities on the units of that race.

Here we have something that's closer in complexity to HOMM 2 - but also infinitely less balanced.

 

[ArchAngel]

One quick fix for army I would do is make Infirmary per day instead of per battle, it makes clearing maps way too easy and fast. Number of battle per day is limited only by your movement speed as Infirmary makes loses irrelevant.

 

[Haplo]

Another "fun" bug introduced in the last patch (alongside fully disabled mounted charge) - triggering an Attack of Opportunity interrupts iterative attacks. Therefore, say, you have 6 attacks, the 1st is a critical (and triggers AoO via Outflank) or causes a Greater Trip - your Full Attack ends with the 1st attack then...

OWLCATS!

 

[Yosharian]

Another "fun" bug introduced in the last patch (alongside fully disabled mounted charge) - triggering an Attack of Opportunity interrupts iterative attacks. Therefore, say, you have 6 attacks, the 1st is a critical (and triggers AoO via Outflank) or causes a Greater Trip - your Full Attack ends with the 1st attack then...

OWLCATS!

No fucking way. Lmao.

 

[volklore]

Looking for best Throwing axe build for Unfair

(with Weapon finesse, so Dex based)

For throwing axes you can't do much better than mutation fighter, if you want to focus on damage. You can pick weapon training in axes and weapon training in throwing weapons and the bonuses stacks. If you equip gloves of dueling you also get double the bonus. I don't think you can beat that with another class because throwing axes is very feat intense, and since you want to go finesse that's another 2 feats. You will be very starved when it comes to mythic feats though especially since you want to go finesse. There is not much to advice except to go mutation fighter and pick your shooting feats (point-blank shot/master, precise shot, rapid shot), TWF feats, dazzling display + shatter defenses since you're on unfair, your finesse feats, and use the rest of your feats for fighter specific feats to ramp up ab and damage, improved critical, as well as snap shot. I can't say I like finesse that much on TWF throwing axes, you get a lot of mileage from STR buffs in this game especially the ones that increase size and weapon dice.
You can dip one level of sohei for flurry with your weapon training weapon for an extra full BAB attack(i think it does stack with rapid shot).

Straight fighter DW throwing axes can absolutely decimate anything on unfair after a few levels, but it's a class that needs a lot of support. Sosiel or a domain cleric merc with domain zealot to buff his rounds with really high bonuses is something I wouldn't run without. And obviously, you need a good way to get enemies shaken (dirge or a good intimidator) until your casters get frightful aspect.
For mythic path there isn't too many wrong choices there, but neither is there any particular standout. Trickster is good for crit feats and Aeon gets a Bane with dispell on hit and spellbook with decent divine selfbuffs and since fighter is a full BAB class you can take nice advantage from Equal Force. Aeon is hard to fit on anything and I think straight martials like fighters are some of the best fit so I would go for Aeon personally, but Trickster is probably stronger albeit very Feat hungry,