Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[LannTheStupid]

It is not like any of this is really needed for regular game (Core or below) . I just took regular stuff with Nenio + that ring that gives +2 DC to illusion spells and she can one shot many demons in Act 5 with Wierd with DC over 35. She cleared many rooms with it.

How hard would she fall on Hard and Unfair? I like to clear rooms with Nenio on Hard, but preferably on Unfair, too.

 

[ArchAngel]

It is not like any of this is really needed for regular game (Core or below) . I just took regular stuff with Nenio + that ring that gives +2 DC to illusion spells and she can one shot many demons in Act 5 with Wierd with DC over 35. She cleared many rooms with it.

How hard would she fall on Hard and Unfair? I like to clear rooms with Nenio on Hard, but preferably on Unfair, too.

Game mechanics are not balanced for Hard or Unfair, save or die spells surely are not. Even Core is kind of crazy with enemy stats, but at least they let you actually feel useful even without needing to cheese hard.

For Core damage output of your party is just too crazy. I can easily do over 1500 damage per turn, even vs enemies with 50+ armor. Save or Die spells are least of the problem.

 

[ga♥]

I can easily weird on hard with nenio with just the stuff you already mentioned, spell focus, the ring, mythic spell focus, spell specialization etc etc, even weirded the craig linnorns of the last chapter (btw there is a quaterstaff sold in the abyss relatevely cheap, i think it is 90k which gives +2 DC to illusion spells).

But why do you need weird? Why do yo need nenio? Just play angel and storm of justice everyhting, i even stopped buffing.

 

[Haplo]

Well, if you only have one DC caster, the free Act 3 Staff of the Warmage will serve you great, no need to spend cash on a separate Illusion one.

 

[LannTheStupid]

1. I like Nenio and I want to play with her. And I want her as a pure Wizard or some late multiclass.
2. I don't want to be Angel.
3. I want to play on Hard or higher.

I think those are pretty reasonable boundary conditions.

What saddens me is that no one responded to the question about viability of Wizard multiclassing after getting the 9th circle spells.

 

[Haplo]

Don't see why not. Spell Penetration should no longer be a concern at this point.

 

[Jaedar]

What saddens me is that no one responded to the question about viability of Wizard multiclassing after getting the 9th circle spells.

What are you interested in multiclassing as? Iirc wizards get 9th circle on level 16 (or 17?), so that's not really enough levels to recover martially from all that low BaB. But if you want to grab a level of bard or two, I don't see why not.

 

[Yosharian]

9th circle

Please stop

 

[Cryomancer]

Iirc wizards get 9th circle on level 16 (or 17?

17 for prepared casters
18 for spontaneous casters + arcanist.

 

[Chippy]

So where is the Codex review? I can't find it. I expect it's like looking for the G-spot on a succubus made out of poop.

 

[mediocrepoet]

So where is the Codex review? I can't find it. I expect it's like looking for the G-spot on a succubus made out of poop.

"It's good."
- RPG Codex

 

[Jaedar]

So where is the Codex review? I can't find it. I expect it's like looking for the G-spot on a succubus made out of poop.

I considered writing a review for a while, but it'd be a fucking behemoth of a project, and even after finishing most of the game twice I don't really feel like I am learned enough to do it justice.

 

[LannTheStupid]

What saddens me is that no one responded to the question about viability of Wizard multiclassing after getting the 9th circle spells.

What are you interested in multiclassing as? Iirc wizards get 9th circle on level 16 (or 17?), so that's not really enough levels to recover martially from all that low BaB. But if you want to grab a level of bard or two, I don't see why not.

I thought about getting 1 or 2 levels of crossblooded sorcerer which with Mythic should give +4 DC to the enchantment school, which in turn, if people above are to be believed, could have increased the DC of Nenio Illusion spells by the same value due to expanded arsenal. So that her Phantasmal Killer and Weird could be efficient at least on Hard.

 

[Chippy]

So where is the Codex review? I can't find it. I expect it's like looking for the G-spot on a succubus made out of poop.

I considered writing a review for a while, but it'd be a fucking behemoth of a project, and even after finishing most of the game twice I don't really feel like I am learned enough to do it justice.

All most doubters like me are concerned about is: on a scale of 1-10 is the bad writing cringy SJW furrie stuff really that bad, or worth waiting for in a sale?. I mean if the only romance options I've got is a poop succubus and some furrie animals, and there's no big tiddy human goth girlfriend, I might have to take a pass.

-Might make an exception if she's abig tiddy goth human girlfriend with a 14" cock. I mean it's 2021 and nothing is perfect after all...

 

[Jaedar]

All most doubters like me are concerned about is: on a scale of 1-10 is the bad writing cringy SJW furrie stuff really that bad

I'd say the most "in your face" sjw the game gets is a lesbian couple that are part of the cohort of advisors who follow you through the game. If you find the kitsune annoying, just boot that companion from your party.

They are kinda annoying, especially the one who fucks up majorly and the game won't even let you demote/fire/hang her over it, when it offers these punishments for far lesser crimes. But they also feature less and less as the game goes on (which just makes it more baffling that you can't replace them with generic NPC's in act3, it would seem to require almost no extra work).

I mean if the only romance options I've got is a poop succubus and some furrie animals, and there's no big tiddy human goth girlfriend

Caring about romance options so deeply that not having one that caters to you would make you skip a game with this solid gameplay is the true face of the decline. Certainly catering to that is one of the major reasons bioware went from "entertaining schlock" to "I don't even".
So yeah... please don't play this game because I worry you'll taint it with your appreciation.

 

[ArchAngel]

Lol Sosiel just hit a critical with his Glaive and one shot a Golem for 522 damage.

 

[Ghulgothas]

All most doubters like me are concerned about is: on a scale of 1-10 is the bad writing cringy SJW furrie stuff really that bad, or worth waiting for in a sale?. I mean if the only romance options I've got is a poop succubus and some furrie animals, and there's no big tiddy human goth girlfriend, I might have to take a pass.

It's there and it's annoying, but it's largely front-loaded into Chapter 1. Once the Scott Characters get shuffled to the sidelines and the story starts being more about Your Character is where it begins to improve.

I mean, they're still there, but to this games credit it never commits the cardinal sin of making them morally superior, functionally immortal or above reproach.

 

[KateMicucci]

Is resting an annoying and time consuming minigame like in Kingmaker?

 

[ArchAngel]

I really tried but I cannot force myself to finish

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The Enigma. Fuck Nenio quest.

EDIT:

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WTF, if you try to leave Nenio leaves your party....

EDIT2:

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I guess no loot for me since I had to reload a save before I entered it. I didn't find anything good anyways except that Singing Full Plate +5 that is useless for everyone.

 

[ArchAngel]

Brothers, how does Spirited Charge work? Or, does it work? I haven't played with mounted combat until now outside of giving Daeran a wolf to help with him being a lazy bastard, but now I'm trying a mounted build for Seelah. Thing is, I only saw it trigger once and I have no idea how. If I charge from outside of combat, it doesn't work, since Charge seems wonky, the horse attacks first, then Seelah waits to roll initiative then attacks and is no longer considered charging (still gets the AB bonus from charging, but no double damage). But if I charge while already in combat, it still doesn't trigger, from what I figure because of the way the rounds go, with Seelah generally getting her round after the horse. I'm trying to micromanage it so that she would get her attack before the mount, but not having much luck and, if that's the case, then it's a damn pain in the ass to get it right.

From my experience for it to work you need to move a certain distance with your mount before hitting enemy, it is not enough to just charge.

 

[Whisper]

Is resting an annoying and time consuming minigame like in Kingmaker?

Yes, they no longer limit rest spamming.
All newbies and casuals rejoices, Popamole be with you.

 

[Daidre]

Don't see why not. Spell Penetration should no longer be a concern at this point.

With SR numbers like that, Spell Penetration is always concern in this game:

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This^ and dispel rolls are among the reasons why all 17 CL builds suck a lot at anything but buff-botting in Wrath.

 

[Delterius]

in wrath of the righteous the kobolds have 100 AC, spell resistance 60 and a touch ac of -17

 

[Cryomancer]

in wrath of the righteous the kobolds have 100 AC, spell resistance 60 and a touch ac of -17

And every single enemy in late chapters has 666 mythic levels. hu3hu3hu3

 

[ga♥]

I really tried but I cannot force myself to finish

Spoiler

The Enigma. Fuck Nenio quest.

EDIT:

Spoiler

WTF, if you try to leave Nenio leaves your party....

EDIT2:

Spoiler

I guess no loot for me since I had to reload a save before I entered it. I didn't find anything good anyways except that Singing Full Plate +5 that is useless for everyone.

There is nothing worth there... exept the googles that increase the spell DC. And still, when you get it the game is basically already done.
I just finished enigma today, selling all the loot brought me to 4 milion gold and nothing to spend it on.
I think they had in mind a bigger chapter VI, than the corridor we got, and then they cut it.