Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[ga♥]

At least I have got an achievement and now I can rest spam as much as I want to)

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Well, like many other things it is a bit bugged and I've got it in the mid of Chapter 5 after getting all crusade stats to 8. No need to complete the game on the same save.

Now I intend to do Unfair run with Angel-Oracle and from what I've already tested Heavenly Host ability to share Sword of Heaven on the party is so hellishly bugged that it breaks Sword of Heaven completely (buff only applied to the last party member in a group), making it unusable

Am I delirious or most of the Angel holy damage spells not only NOT halved on failed save but also ignore SR and do not require range touch? So I don't need Spell Penetration feats or Precise Shot or Casting Stat all that high? From what it looks like right now, you could build for melee gish in first chapters and easily switch to Bolt of Justice spam later with only metamagic feats required to get most out of them.

Angel is ridicolous. You don't need spell penetration as spells are conjuration, or precise shot or anything.
Just get a maximize rod, so you can quicken bolt of justice with sword of heaven and then you kill everything.
IMHO it needs a nerf, bolt of justice needs to become a lvl8 spell, and storm of justice needs to go alltogether, keeping wrath of the righteous at level 9 (that only works on demons, not everything).
I don't understand how people playing this on core as angel can have any fun honestly, I seriously tried to avoid using bolt/storm of justice as much as possible in my last playthrough since its retarded.

 

[NJClaw]

I don't understand how people playing this on core as angel can have any fun honestly, I seriously tried to avoid using bolt/storm of justice as much as possible in my last playthrough since its retarded.

It really is absurd. Even playing as a non-caster melee class, in the late game you're better off spamming those broken spells than actually doing what your class is supposed to do (whacking enemies with a giant stick).

 

[ArchAngel]

I don't understand how people playing this on core as angel can have any fun honestly, I seriously tried to avoid using bolt/storm of justice as much as possible in my last playthrough since its retarded.

It really is absurd. Even playing as a non-caster melee class, in the late game you're better off spamming those broken spells than actually doing what your class is supposed to do (whacking enemies with a giant stick).

I disagree as a melee angel. My mounted mad dog barbarian with a Falchion and Mythic Power Attack did way more than he could with those spells without a focus in them.

 

[NJClaw]

I don't understand how people playing this on core as angel can have any fun honestly, I seriously tried to avoid using bolt/storm of justice as much as possible in my last playthrough since its retarded.

It really is absurd. Even playing as a non-caster melee class, in the late game you're better off spamming those broken spells than actually doing what your class is supposed to do (whacking enemies with a giant stick).

I disagree as a melee angel. My mounted mad dog barbarian with a Falchion and Mythic Power Attack did way more than he could with those spells without a focus in them.

For me, this was true only against single big targets that needed all the damage my MC could dish out (which basically means bosses and very few mythic enemies). Dealing 4.000 damage against a single target can be useful against Deskari, but 98% of the content in the last chapter consists of trash fights with multiple "weaker" enemies, against whom the only reason to full attack instead of spamming Storm of Justice is to save resources.

 

[Jaedar]

I don't understand how people playing this on core as angel can have any fun honestly, I seriously tried to avoid using bolt/storm of justice as much as possible in my last playthrough since its retarded.

It really is absurd. Even playing as a non-caster melee class, in the late game you're better off spamming those broken spells than actually doing what your class is supposed to do (whacking enemies with a giant stick).

Is it?
Maybe I'm missing something, but seems like it deals 1d10 x CL holy damage? That's good and all, but compared to the shenanigans you can do with hellfire ray or elemental barrage attacker it doesn't seem that much better?
300 damage per turn (with a maximize rod) is ok, but it's a lot less than you could be doing.

 

[ga♥]

Its quickened, so multiply that for 2. And add dmg because sword of heaven (don't remember how much), its like 1k per round with no SR, and never miss and no resistance, unlinke hellfire ray.

 

[ArchAngel]

I don't understand how people playing this on core as angel can have any fun honestly, I seriously tried to avoid using bolt/storm of justice as much as possible in my last playthrough since its retarded.

It really is absurd. Even playing as a non-caster melee class, in the late game you're better off spamming those broken spells than actually doing what your class is supposed to do (whacking enemies with a giant stick).

I disagree as a melee angel. My mounted mad dog barbarian with a Falchion and Mythic Power Attack did way more than he could with those spells without a focus in them.

For me, this was true only against single big targets that needed all the damage my MC could dish out (which basically means bosses and very few mythic enemies). Dealing 4.000 damage against a single target can be useful against Deskari, but 98% of the content in the last chapter consists of trash fights with multiple "weaker" enemies, against whom the only reason to full attack instead of spamming Storm of Justice is to save resources.

Waste of already limited spell slots. I just put those awesome buff spells into the slots and used those to become immune to almost everything and give the whole party huge defensive bonuses.

 

[Humbaba]

Anyone knows what is with that Kobold that you meet in Act 2 on its own map but by act 3 it disappears?!

I completely forgot about that guy until you mentioned him just now lmao.

 

[Daidre]

Maybe I'm missing something, but seems like it deals 1d10 x CL holy damage? That's good and all, but compared to the shenanigans you can do with hellfire ray or elemental barrage attacker it doesn't seem that much better?
300 damage per turn (with a maximize rod) is ok, but it's a lot less than you could be doing.

Sword Of Heaven gives +2 Damage Per Dice, +4 With Areelu's Cloak. And there is also Bolster for +6.
It extra +180 damage at CL 30.
Two casts per round with Speed of Light (auto-Quicken for all spells with level <=7) or Rod.

Guaranteed damage, without attack roll and SR, and landing range touch is already not so trivial on Hard for example, with Touch AC 50+ or cheater-ish 50% miss chance on some enemies.

In short - it is nuts.

 

[Jaedar]

Sword Of Heaven gives +2 Damage Per Dice, +4 With Areelu's Cloak

That's nuts.

Two casts per round with Speed of Light (auto-Quicken for all spells with level <=7) or Rod.

What even is this angel.

without attack roll and SR

....

In short - it is nuts.

Yeah, I can't disagree after hearing these things.

960 guaranteed damage per turn is crazy good, and it should be pretty trivial to add another few 100 with (favorite) metamagic.

Anyone knows what is with that Kobold that you meet in Act 2 on its own map but by act 3 it disappears?!

I completely forgot about that guy until you mentioned him just now lmao.

You can talk to him once per act, and he'll give you vague hints about the future. If you talk to him all the times and invite him to drezen, he'll eventually summon some units for you in act5. From what I read somewhere he's a backer character insert.

 

[Humbaba]

You can talk to him once per act, and he'll give you vague hints about the future. If you talk to him all the times and invite him to drezen, he'll eventually summon some units for you in act5. From what I read somewhere he's a backer character insert.

Based devs making the backer character completely irrelevant and forgettable.

 

[ArchAngel]

Maybe I'm missing something, but seems like it deals 1d10 x CL holy damage? That's good and all, but compared to the shenanigans you can do with hellfire ray or elemental barrage attacker it doesn't seem that much better?
300 damage per turn (with a maximize rod) is ok, but it's a lot less than you could be doing.

Sword Of Heaven gives +2 Damage Per Dice, +4 With Areelu's Cloak. And there is also Bolster for +6.
It extra +180 damage at CL 30.
Two casts per round with Speed of Light (auto-Quicken for all spells with level <=7) or Rod.

Guaranteed damage, without attack roll and SR, and landing range touch is already not so trivial on Hard for example, with Touch AC 50+ or cheater-ish 50% miss chance on some enemies.

In short - it is nuts.

Auto Quicken is biggest problem here or Lich could compete. But Lich offensive spells also do crazy damage, ignore SR but also give the lich temporary HP back.

 

[Jaedar]

Auto Quicken is biggest problem here or Lich could compete. But Lich offensive spells also do crazy damage, ignore SR but also give the lich temporary HP back.

They do, but they only do d6 per cl, which is half of what the angel spell does. And lich doesn't get the +4 damage per dice either.

You're not going to dish out 1000+ dmg per turn as a lich.

 

[Dodo1610]

https://store.steampowered.com/sale/BestOf2021?tab=2

Steam has released its list of best selling games of this year and Wrath was actually one of the biggest new releases of the year.

 

[Whisper]

https://store.steampowered.com/sale/BestOf2021?tab=2

Steam has released its list of best selling games of this year and Wrath was actually one of the biggest new releases of the year.

Looked at that list. Most of games are anime (which is shit) or inspired by anime.

 

[The_Mask]

It also had over 30K people playing it at the same time, but under 60K. I bet there are more numbers from GOG or Epic in there, but, you know, not too shabby.

 

[ArchAngel]

https://store.steampowered.com/sale/BestOf2021?tab=2

Steam has released its list of best selling games of this year and Wrath was actually one of the biggest new releases of the year.

Lol Farming Simulator 22 is one of the best selling game.. WTF?!

 

[ArchAngel]

Also now that Codex likes what the cool kids like do we need to find another Codex like site that hates Pathfinder games :D

 

[The_Mask]

Lol Farming Simulator 22 is one of the best selling game.. WTF?!

Clearly becoming a king or other mythical creatures are not what people really want. It's the simple life. The life of a simple farmer, is what the people trully desire!

Make it happen Owlcat. And this time, the bugs will actually make sense!

 

[mediocrepoet]

Also now that Codex likes what the cool kids like do we need to find another Codex like site that hates Pathfinder games :D

No. Fortunately for you, that site is also the Codex.

 

[ArchAngel]

Also now that Codex likes what the cool kids like do we need to find another Codex like site that hates Pathfinder games :D

No. Fortunately for you, that site is also the Codex.

We need to go back to the old days of Everything is SHIT! (except FO1 and PST)
I guess all the old people got jabbed and died from heart attacks and only young unvaxxed Purebloods are left.

 

[ga♥]

Everything is still shit, this and Kingmaker are pretty much the only exception to the rule, sadly.

 

[Dishonoredbr]

 

[Dishonoredbr]

Azata is so much better than Demon gameplay wise.

All Demon's spell are worthless, you have limited Rage and pretty good teleport but compared to Azata? Immunity to almost everything, AOE healing , Bards songs (kinda), Really good summons, insane Spell penetration , Threats etc. And Aivu is BUSTED after Mythic rank 6. That dispell and breath are crazy good.

Owlcat really gave Azata more love. Storywise, it's pretty similar but i enjoyed how i had to gain respect and do a freaking riot as Azata but overall Demon has more going for it.

Overall, i think i had more fun with Azata Kineticist than Eldritch Scion Demon.

Someone has a cool build for Angel ? And is Trickester any good?

 

[Delterius]

Also now that Codex likes what the cool kids like do we need to find another Codex like site that hates Pathfinder games :D

the only unusual thing is that the codex enjoyed the game when it came out

the law of amn states: thou shalt hate all releases, then thou shalt count to years five or six, and then thou shalt re-consider them True and Good and a Bastion of Civilization forevermore