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Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

Desiderius

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Crafting is a plague on a games itemization. They should just add a better variety of weapons or make less weapon types and give each one they leave in some love. Finding unique items through quests or exploration is ruined if you can just craft a better one.

I guess the developer would have to look at what type of itemization they want and add a crafting system or not depending on what they choose but I much prefer finding out buying equipment purposefully placed in the game. Random drops and crafting don't appeal to me
Well, the problems with Kingmaker is that if you're a martial and try to spec into a weapon. You may get fucked later in the game. For example, dueling swords have an even enough progression throughout the entire game. You're bound to come across a dueling sword at any one point of the game. Through the early game, mid game, late game, you will find a dueling sword. Where else if say someone were to spec into an estoc, they may get burned real hard. As estocs do not have an even progression. You my find one or two in the early game, maybe one in the mid game, if you're lucky, and maybe another in the late game. It was a disaster on release day. The enhanced edition attempted to fix it, but by not enough. I asked the developers if they have any plans to improve weapon progression in the sequel, and they said they're working on it.

The reason why this is such a big deal. Is because martials usually pick a weapon, and then spend most of their feats being good at that weapon. All of that goes out the window when you're stuck with a +1 long sword through out the entire game.

Turns out with a couple exceptions all you're losing is the +1 AB from Weapon Focus you have to get early as a prereq if you just use best available, and it turns out once you get all the artisans rolling there are more than enough good options for almost every weapon type.

The original question is Bows and there are so many great ones that I make my casters (and Jub) archers to use them.
 

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Why bother taking fighter, ever, if you're just gonna use the best weapon available. That is the entire problem with the class

Edit: I mean because Fighters are all about specialism
 
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fantadomat

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You are absolutely free to suggest a better table-top RPG on which your dream game should be made. I am actually quite interested to see what you choose. I'd choose one of the iterations of Warhammer Fantasy or 40k maybe, but I have to think about it more.
Drakensang is by far superior to D&D.
 

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Strongholds was actually class content done right. As Bard you'd get a theatre, as thief a thieves guild. And all of that was pepped with good old hack and slash and extra loot.

Expanded content based on traditional players choice (class picked) is a definition of good extra content.
Tho it is great fun having them all on a replay,good XP and nice quests :lol:
 

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So now the stretch goals are very good, but looks like the KS campaign lost some momentum and the last 2 days are not *that* good. Its a pity. I don't think we will get too far with the numbers.
We're getting 40-50 today, then two more days. If things didn't spike at all, that'd be 88k more at the very low end, but I'm expecting ~50k today, ~60-70k tomorrow, and ~70-100k on the last day (or 148k-188k more in total). That would put the campaign at 1.872-1902M. Guess we'll see!

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55k so far today with 4 hours left in the day, so my original projections could be low if ramping continues tomorrow.

Edit: Didn't realize kicktraq went off of east coast USA time... day's end was 55k. Given that the campaign ends at 11:15PM, PST, that's a bit weird, but whatever. :)
 
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Mexi

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Next stretch goal is meh. IDC if we get it or not. Would suck if the next one is good, though.
 

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Yeah, the next stretch goal doesn't sound like anything incredible, but on the other hand it's much better for them to be sane and offer things that they can actually do than to become victims of the feature creep (which some would say that has already happened with the "Tactical Battles" part).

In any case, they will certainly achieve the next goal soon-ish by the current flow of money. So the question is what the next one will be, and if it will be enough to motivate some larger flow in the last 2 days.

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Desiderius

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Why bother taking fighter, ever, if you're just gonna use the best weapon available. That is the entire problem with the class

Edit: I mean because Fighters are all about specialism

Fighter is one of the exceptions.
 

Mexi

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Yeah, the next stretch goal doesn't sound like anything incredible, but on the other hand it's much better for them to be sane and offer things that they can actually do than to become victims of the feature creep (which some would say that has already happened with the "Tactical Battles" part).

In any case, they will certainly achieve the next goal soon-ish by the current flow of money. So the question is what the next one will be, and if it will be enough to motivate some larger flow in the last 2 days.

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I'm not familiar with the lore, so IDK what that is. I hope they at least get to 2million. I also hope they back the fuck away from stupid portrait-furry path-morphs that I'm reading about.
 
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don't know what to play in the sequel.
Oh, I know full well what I'm currently planning to play. An autistically useless Aasimar Paladin/Cleric/Inquisitor/Oracle, going either Aeon or Angel, likely with Ragathiel as a deity for maximum DEUS VULT.
Although I'm tempted to go Lich for a first playthrough, I'll probably postpone it for a later, more metagamey playthrough.

So... Dwarven Paladin of Torag Legend reporting in.
 

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Stopped reading here.

Why is DraQ an elite individual?
He is an elite individual because he wrote:

"Dragons would have to be at least partially endothermic to fly (but let's just not get into the physiology of purely fictional beings, at least not until I figure a way around them square-cubes), delicate inside areas would also have no need for dermal armour.

BTW, have you ever touched actual reptilian skin (on a living animal - snake or lizard - something that has those tiny scales covering it)? Scaly skin can be pretty soft and pleasant to touch too where it doesn't form natural armour.

If you look at it from a more distanced POV, is it not more elegant than human wrinkly pinkish skin, constantly shedding dead cells, with it's sparse and ugly curly hairs, glands that constantly secrete (and excrete - sweat contains urea) malodorous stuff through it's prone to clogging pores?"

Coppied from my DraQ.txt :smug:
 

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monks are unironically
Stopped reading here.

Why is DraQ an elite individual?
He is an elite individual because he wrote:

"Dragons would have to be at least partially endothermic to fly (but let's just not get into the physiology of purely fictional beings, at least not until I figure a way around them square-cubes), delicate inside areas would also have no need for dermal armour.

BTW, have you ever touched actual reptilian skin (on a living animal - snake or lizard - something that has those tiny scales covering it)? Scaly skin can be pretty soft and pleasant to touch too where it doesn't form natural armour.

If you look at it from a more distanced POV, is it not more elegant than human wrinkly pinkish skin, constantly shedding dead cells, with it's sparse and ugly curly hairs, glands that constantly secrete (and excrete - sweat contains urea) malodorous stuff through it's prone to clogging pores?"

Coppied from my DraQ.txt :smug:
Sounds like some diary of some fetishist weirdo serial killer.
 

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Stopped reading here.

Why is DraQ an elite individual?
He is an elite individual because he wrote:

"Dragons would have to be at least partially endothermic to fly (but let's just not get into the physiology of purely fictional beings, at least not until I figure a way around them square-cubes), delicate inside areas would also have no need for dermal armour.

BTW, have you ever touched actual reptilian skin (on a living animal - snake or lizard - something that has those tiny scales covering it)? Scaly skin can be pretty soft and pleasant to touch too where it doesn't form natural armour.

If you look at it from a more distanced POV, is it not more elegant than human wrinkly pinkish skin, constantly shedding dead cells, with it's sparse and ugly curly hairs, glands that constantly secrete (and excrete - sweat contains urea) malodorous stuff through it's prone to clogging pores?"

Coppied from my DraQ.txt :smug:
Sounds like some diary of some fetishist weirdo serial killer.

Probably a dragonkin :P
 

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Btw is there a list somewhere about the confirmed companions?
Confirmed companions:
Confirmed Companions:
Lads:
>Lan the Man - Zen Monk
>Jefto - Eldritch Scoundrel
>Sosiel -Cleric
>Regill - Armiger-Hellknight
>Daeran - Oracle

Gals:
>Seelah - Paladin
>Camelia - Shaman
>Arushalae - Bow user of some kind?
>Ember - Witch
There was also a dwarf assassin.
 

Xamenos

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Pathfinder: Wrath
Btw is there a list somewhere about the confirmed companions?
Confirmed companions:
Confirmed Companions:
Lads:
>Lan the Man - Zen Monk
>Jefto - Eldritch Scoundrel
>Sosiel -Cleric
>Regill - Armiger-Hellknight
>Daeran - Oracle

Gals:
>Seelah - Paladin
>Camelia - Shaman
>Arushalae - Bow user of some kind?
>Ember - Witch
There was also a dwarf assassin.
Arueshalae will be a Ranger with a custom archetype that uses Charisma for spellcasting. Presumably without a pet, though that wasn't confirmed.

I wonder who the unrevealed companions are gonna be.
 

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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is. Serpent in the Staglands Dead State Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pathfinder: Wrath I'm very into cock and ball torture I helped put crap in Monomyth
Angel Mythic Path: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/owlcatgames/pathfinder-wrath-of-the-righteous/posts/2779637

Less Than 2 Days Left! Champion of Hope and Vengeance

For more than a century, the sight of the Worldwound has marred the lands of Golarion, and thousands have looked upon it, hoping that someday the horizon will be rid of its foul presence. For more than a century, millions have lived in constant fear of an imminent demonic invasion, begging for a final respite. For more than a century, crusaders have fought and bled, protecting the world from the abyssal filth. The light of their hopes converges in you, the flames of their wrath are rekindled in you, beckoning you to become a Mythic Angel.

The Worldwound is a cruel place—Golarion’s bravest and brightest have crumbled and broken there in droves, unable to stem the waves of the Abyss. Where they failed, you will stand firm, as the one who will bring final salvation. Being a mere mortal isn’t enough to heal the wounds of the world, so you must become much, much more.

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With wings of gold on your back and radiant halo above your head, you will be the one to guide humanity to triumph in this holy war. Allies will be bolstered by your celestial aura, while demons will flee before your blinding light. Angelic armies will stand at your side, ready to be called into action at any moment. And your blessings will imbue your friends with protection against the direst of afflictions.

With heavenly healing powers, you can save your companions from even the most desperate situations, or bring them back to life, ready to fight again. Angels from martial classes will learn what it feels like to be a cleric, while powerful spellcasters will have their existing spellbooks augmented with both new spells and heavenly powers.

But healing both companions and the world isn’t the only option available to an angel. Another is bringing the ones responsible for unleashing the Worldwound upon Golarion to justice—for this catastrophe must never happen again. Light your weapon in holy flame and show the demons the wrath of the righteous. Incinerate them like the blazing light of the sun.

A vast array of holy spells will be at your disposal. Use Grant Repose to turn undead enemies to dust. Cast Eye for an Eye to force an enemy to take back all the damage it inflicts. Summon a Bolt of Justice that deals progressively more damage, weakening enemies depending on how evil they are. Unleash Gale of Life to bring back all your recently fallen comrades. And confer the Avenger’s Blessing to turn an ally into an all-conquering holy champion.

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It is time for you to decide what kind of angel you will become. Will your light herald the resurrection of hope, or will it be an omen of reckoning? Whatever you choose, your angelic powers will surely help you in your glorious campaign.

To arms, crusaders! It’s time to unleash our wrath upon the demon lords!

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Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire
Crafting is a plague on a games itemization. They should just add a better variety of weapons or make less weapon types and give each one they leave in some love. Finding unique items through quests or exploration is ruined if you can just craft a better one.

I guess the developer would have to look at what type of itemization they want and add a crafting system or not depending on what they choose but I much prefer finding out buying equipment purposefully placed in the game. Random drops and crafting don't appeal to me

Deadfire has the perfect solution to that. Unique equipment is found or bought BUT also has unique crafting upgrade paths. Usually with interesting choices involved (like do I want 10% more damage or healing effect on kill) .
 

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I hope they're giving their FX Artists credit. Aside from portraits and narrative changes, I bet all the flashy spellbooks are what's really gonna sell people on a Path.
 

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