Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Ontopoly]

Clerics are more powerful than Wizards

How so?

They fight for justice and have God on their side.

 

[Technomancer]

Clerics are more powerful than Wizards

How so?

They fight for justice and have God on their side.

Some wizards would say that justice is an artificial concept and a limiter to one's ambition while gods exist to be replaced by the aspiring mortals.

 

[Yosharian]

Clerics are very strong but Wizards have access to more game-breaking shit in my opinion

 

[Tytus]

Was this linked in here yet?



Interview with Mishulin, I'm surprised they gave interview to that small channel, just a few subscribers, or is that actually bigger site?

Mishulin looks like he is stuck in the 90s.
That's probably why Kingmaker was so fun to play. The current year decline has not caught up with him yet.

 

[Cryomancer]

Clerics are very strong but Wizards have access to more game-breaking shit in my opinion

Remember that all game breaking spells that PC wizards can use NPC wizards can use and that anti magical field exists. A Cleric still has a decent BAB, armor and decent hit points inside a anti magical field. A druid has the same and maybe a animal companion. But a wizard/sorcerer is useless inside a anti magical field... ( https://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/a/antimagic-field/ )

 

[Technomancer]

But a wizard/sorcerer is useless inside a anti magical field...

Unless he is mythic. He can ignore it then!

Its literally in the link he provided smaug.

Mythic
Select a number of spell schools equal to half your tier. Spells and effects of the chosen schools are unaffected by the anti-magic field.

 

[Yosharian]

Clerics are very strong but Wizards have access to more game-breaking shit in my opinion

Remember that all game breaking spells that PC wizards can use NPC wizards can use and that anti magical field exists. A Cleric still has a decent BAB, armor and decent hit points inside a anti magical field. A druid has the same and maybe a animal companion. But a wizard/sorcerer is useless inside a anti magical field... ( https://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/a/antimagic-field/ )

Yeah that's true I guess, but generally if you get hit with an anti magic field your main strategy should be get the fuck out of there, right?

 

[Infinitron]

https://noisypixel.net/pathfinder-w...-is-taking-role-playing-to-a-whole-new-level/

Pathfinder: Wrath of Righteousness is Taking Role Playing to a Whole New Level

During this past PAX East, I had a chance to sit down and play a guided 30-minute demo of Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous. Helping me along was Alexander Mishulin, Creative Director for the developer, Owl Cat games. This tour showed that a lot of love and strategy had gone into creating an old-school CRPG experience with modern conveniences.

The small team has taken their experiences with the first Pathfinder title, Kingmaker, and are adding even more content and fan requests (turn-based battles for those board game enthusiasts). This is even more evident with the addition of social aspects and stretch goals for their Kickstarter campaign. While I never immersed myself in this franchise, I found my time with Alexander enjoyable, amusing, and, most importantly, never dull.

For those also uninitiated, the title is based on Paizo Publishing’s Pathfinder book based, role-playing game which itself is based on the 3rd edition of Dungeons and Dragons. Wrath of the Righteous lives up to its title as it adds the ability to go down the ‘good path’ has now been expanded to include a journey for those who are more evilly inclined.

My demo took place in the second chapter of the game, right before the storming of the demon-infested stronghold city, Drezen. Instead of being thrown into the action, I was in a tavern strategizing with my companions on the best course of action for the oncoming siege.

This slower and text-heavy section was a good indicator of how the story and character development will take a front seat during the game. The good and evil aspect of alignment also was prominent here as two of your colleagues, the shell-shocked paladin Irabeth and the sassy demon knight commander Regill, played off of each other.

According to Alexander, each companion will have their own arc and missions that can change their path and even alignment. He gave the example of Irabeth becoming more and more jaded over the course and slaughter of adventure, leading to a significant crisis of faith. Even during the demo, the paladin’s foundation was already shaken as she questioned going in to save the city entirely with her heart, obviously pointing towards retreat.

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Dealing with your recruits was only one section of the tavern, as your entire mission can be reshaped from the choices you make. I chose to sneak in through the prison rather than a full-frontal siege; this changed the locations, strategy, and interactions I would’ve had, had I wanted a different route. Side missions were also casually brought up at the tavern planning session. I’m happy to say that none of it felt like a clunky handing of exposition, and I even laughed at one point from the character dialogue.

The combat portion of the demo was a little more hands-on yet hands-off than the initial scene. Being a CRPG, maps get to be quite large, and getting lost can be easy. I was guided along rather consistently as my overpowered characters, and I clicked through waves of enemies. At one point, I had to guard my knights as they used a battering ram against a reinforced door. Enemies have the ability to teleport in, so I never knew what was going to come out and pounce (the giant hell insect being my favorite).

Other highlights included freeing a succubus from the prison. At the same time, Irabeth fell further into disillusion as I rode to the city walls of giants who were hurling deadly projectiles at my army. The latter proved to be an exciting challenge as I tried to climb up a series of ropes but failed my agility check, so I had to take a long way around. Players will encounter these branching paths many times, making the experience unique to each playthrough.

There were tons of spells that I could see but didn’t use during my time playing. Still, I was shown where the healing spells were. That’s what I stuck to as I chopped down wave after wave of demons. The ability to pause and spin the camera 360 degrees was needed, even if characters were highlighted with an outline when they were hidden behind scenery. The battles got hectic, so stopping the action from repositioning my troops was also a necessity. All and all, the combat felt fluid (even with a stilted camera), and I wanted to get further into the menus to understand better the ‘more than a thousand spells’ available and all the loot I was hoarding.

Alexander was also excited to highlight the ‘Mythic Path’ of option that players will be able to choose while during their 80+ hour quest. From here, you can ‘make compelling characters capable of taking on Demon Lords and similarly powerful entities.’ Owl Cat Games claim that this feature will have a ‘profound’ impact on both gameplay and story.

While the soft-spoken Creative Director didn’t dive into too much detail with the Mythic Paths, a cheat sheet went over the eight dietic personas that are available. The usual Lich and Angel and Demon are there, but two of the options sounded fun to me:

Aeon is a cosmic judge of balance with the ability to change the current timeline. They can sense where the balance is broken and correct it, usually punishing the perpetrator in the process.

Swarm-That-Walks is an incarnation of anger, allowing the character to become one with the swarm of locusts and consume everything that stands in their way.

How these ultimate classes will play remains to be seen, and we will have to wait until June 2021 when Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous releases on PC and Mac (consoles will hopefully be added in the future).

Until then, the Kickstarter is in its final 24 hours, so if any of this appeals to you, you should check that out. Alexander and the small team at Owlcat are doing some fantastic things, and I’m looking forward to the next preview I get to partake in for this epic sounding CRPG.

http://www.duelscreens.com/articles...the-righteous-pax-east-2020-hands-on-preview/

CRPGs Are Leveling Up In Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous – PAX East 2020 Hands-On Preview

PAX East 2020 was full of incredible games and experiences from the word ‘go‘. Making waves was the in-depth look at Balder’s Gate 3, made by Larian Sutdios, the studio behind the incredible Divinity: Original Sin II. But tucked away in a hotel off the water about a 10 minute ride from the convention floor was Owlcat Game’s Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous. It was in this cozy little hotel room that I sat down with a member of the team and was treated to one of the more impressive demos of the entire show.

Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous is the second game in the Pathfinder CRPG series. The game was kick-started to the tune of $1.5M dollars with a week to go as of this writing. It is no wonder why; this game is ambitious, and if it delivers on what is promised it is going to be a sure-fire hit among CRPG devotees.

I am an avid table-top RPG player, but most CRPG’s escape my grasp. Divinity: Original Sin II was the last to hold my attention, but not for very long as I became overwhelmed in its systems and unforgiving combat. I long for the days of the old CRPGs made for console where simplicity was key, but depth was the name of the game. It seems like Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous looks to balance hardcore roleplaying and strategy, with fun and intuitive gameplay mechanics.

After getting caught up in the story prior to where our demo starts off, I am given control of a few heroes discussing battle plans for the massive siege ahead. The three members of the group are arguing their case as I weigh the options. Right away I am tasked with role playing what I feel would be a very “me” way to approach this battle. Knowing I am not typically very stout in battles, I chose to sneak beneath the city and attack from the inside as one of my members suggested. The dialog choices were compelling and I felt truly immersed as if I was only in the room for about five minutes.

As we set off for our battle we make it down under the city, but it is an AMBUSH! We have been set up! And now fighting commences. As this is further down the road in the game’s progress, my party members have a enormous array of spells and attacks to choose from. I was quickly told what heals and what attacks by our demo’s Sherpa, but outside that I was left to my own devices and decision. If I had a deeper knowledge of the games spells (I admit I am very rusty) I suppose I would have picked things up sooner, but I was able to pause the action and choose my spells without feeling the heat in battle too hard. After around five minutes I felt like I had control of my group and their abilities as I lay waste to the many enemies in my path. Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous didn’t scare me. It invited me in to have fun, while also challenging my battle tactics and deep RPG acumen. While I might have been tested by this demo, the demo passed my test with flying colors. I was hooked.

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Moving around the battlefield in a full 360 degree motion was fantastic. I didn’t have to fight the camera or the geometry of the world in order to see what I was doing. I could simply zoom out, swing around, and keep up my attacks. Targeting enemies was easy and smooth and selecting spells was a breeze once I figured out which ones did what. This felt more like an MMORPG akin to Final Fantasy XIV than it did the slower paced CRPGs like Divinity: Orignal Sin or Neverwinter Nights. It felt a little more like Diablo in the sense that you had a plethora of spells to cast and the action oriented combat, complete with loot drops! I cannot stress enough how well thought out the combat mechanics felt. Nothing felt accidental. I was in full control, but never felt like I was learning to play a game. It all came on naturally. Point, click, slash, conquer!

After the demo concluded I was brought up to speed on the game’s path ahead. The main mechanic for character development will be choosing one of eight “Mythic Paths”. Think mastery classes, but totally more badass. You start by creating your character from a pool of 11 races and 24 classes, later unlocking your Mythic Path as a Lich, Angel, Aeon, a Demon, a Trickster, an Azata, a Swarm-That-Walks, and even a GOLD DRAGON. Whichever path you choose will greatly impact your play-style and the story in front of you. The power at your disposal is frightening and incredibly exciting. Here are the character descriptions:

Deathsnatcher Concept
Angel is a general of celestial armies, able to summon angels to fight by their side and heal and protect their allies.

Lich is an immortal undead, a master of necromancy who will ultimately be able to replace their companions with the undead minions under their command.

Aeon is a cosmic judge of balance with the ability to change the current timeline. They can sense where the balance is broken and correct it, usually punishing the perpetrator in the process.

Trickster is a Loki-type character who loves to have fun and play jokes on even the mightiest creatures. They can trick the rules that govern the world to gain unimaginable powers.

Demon is a raging beast whose desire is to become the rightful ruler of the Abyss. They can choose to sink into a demonic rage and rip their enemies apart with their bare hands. The Demon Lords shall bow to their power!

Azata is a rebel and a fighter for freedom and good. A superhero of sorts, that protects innocents against demons and purifies the land of corruption.

Swarm-That-Walks is an incarnation of anger, allowing the character to become one with the swarm of locusts and consume everything that stands in their way.

Gold Dragon is a protector of the lesser races, wise and merciful. A defender of Golarion, they can stagger even the greatest foes with their roar alone and guide those who are lost.

Provided by Owlcat Games

More classes and options are wonderful but perhaps the more literal game changing systems come in the promised “turn based” combat. While I didn’t get to try this out first hand , this option is sure to add a layer of complexity to the combat, as well as bring in players that might avoid CRPGs for its lack of turn based deliberate combat mechanics. And if you are considering yourself a newcomer like myself, there will be a massive and deep evolving tutorial system called “enhanced tutorial” that will help teach you the Pathfinder rule-set as you play.

Owlcat is taking this game very seriously and is listening to their fan’s feedback while developing. The Kickstarter campaign ends on March 11th, 2020 and the game is targeting a June 2021 release window.

https://blogcritics.org/pax-east-2020-day-2-experience/

Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous

I had the great pleasure of checking out this title at PAX East. This is the second title in the Pathfinder CRPG universe and based on what I saw it will be an incredible role playing experience. Currently in the middle of its Kickstarter campaign and having raised over $1.5 million, the developer in making this is a rare Kickstarter success story for games in recent years.

The focus of this game is the world of Sarkoris 100 years before the first game, with the land overrun by demonic forces. Many crusades have been waged against the demons, and the story picks up as the player-controlled commander of the 5th crusade starts to gather forces to push back the demonic forces.

With many different races and classes to choose from, I was shown incredibly deep options to customize my main party as well as the lead character. Various characters join in the crusade – a diabolical devil (ancient foes of demons) and a dwarven demon assassin to name just a couple.

On top of the main characters in the party, in many instances crusaders or other forces take part in battles, helping to bolster my party’s forces as we battle the demons. Commanding battles and they way they unfold is also a huge part of the game.

Each member of the party has numerous skills and attacks, but the new Mythic path system was the coolest thing I saw in the game. At a certain point we will be able to choose a Mythic path allowing the main character to channel extraordinary abilities as a mythic entity. Each path will follow a specific theme, has a profound impact on the main story of the adventure, grants powerful unique abilities, and affects the character’s appearance.

I was able to see the Lich in action as one of the options, and the special abilities were very impressive. The system promises a great deal of extra depth for the game once it releases. Other paths give a mythic identity of an Angel, Aeon, Trickster, Demon, Azata, and Legend.

While the game is still in an early form, the amount of variety in skills, characters, and systems, along with the Mythic progression system, made it incredibly appealing to me. The renaissance of CRPGs like this has been amazing and Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous looks to be another great example in this genre.

Check out its Kickstarter campaign to see the stretch goals and release information as this will be a game well worth exploring once it releases.

 

[Lacrymas]

I am an avid table-top RPG player, but most CRPG’s escape my grasp. Divinity: Original Sin II was the last to hold my attention, but not for very long as I became overwhelmed in its systems and unforgiving combat. I long for the days of the old CRPGs made for console where simplicity was key, but depth was the name of the game.

I stopped reading there. If I were Owlcat I would've kicked him out of my hotel room.

 

[vortex]

What D:OS2 did right was open-ended world and more freedom. If Owlcat could marry this with their own slavic-mongolian magic, it would be the next-gen CRPG.
Larain should've done that with RTWP.

 

[Luckmann]

I am an avid table-top RPG player, but most CRPG’s escape my grasp. Divinity: Original Sin II was the last to hold my attention, but not for very long as I became overwhelmed in its systems and unforgiving combat. I long for the days of the old CRPGs made for console where simplicity was key, but depth was the name of the game.

I stopped reading there. If I were Owlcat I would've kicked him out of my hotel room.

Unsurprisingly, you can't comment on the article directly. No wonder it's empty.

 

[InD_ImaginE]

I am an avid table-top RPG player, but most CRPG’s escape my grasp. Divinity: Original Sin II was the last to hold my attention, but not for very long as I became overwhelmed in its systems and unforgiving combat. I long for the days of the old CRPGs made for console where simplicity was key, but depth was the name of the game.

I stopped reading there. If I were Owlcat I would've kicked him out of my hotel room.

Jeez D:OS 2 as a barometer of unforgiving combat. And I doubt the guy is playing on the harder difficulties.

And like man, Pathfinder 2e a streamlined system from 3.5/Pathfinder 1e, is pretty much more complex than anything in D:OS 2 beisde silly element interaction.

Sometimes I wonder what kind of games these people are growing up on. They are probably the same age as me, more or less, but I find it insane that they can be a game journalist and this incompetent in playing video games.

 

[Lacrymas]

Some of these screenshots look pretty nice btw, they've managed to reduce some of the cartoony-ness of Kingmaker.

Sometimes I wonder what kind of games these people are growing up on. They are probably the same age as me, more or less, but I find it insane that they can be a game journalist and this incompetent in playing video games.

I really don't want to imagine what he views as "the old console RPGs with simplicity and depth" tbh.

 

[InD_ImaginE]

Some of these screenshots look pretty nice btw, they've managed to reduce some of the cartoony-ness of Kingmaker.

I actually like the cartoony aesthetic

 

[Ipum]

In 3,5e wizards, clerics and druids are s-tier classes. And clerics isn't stronger then wizards. Best cleric tricks in 3,5e are Divine metamagic, Cheater of Mytra and Dweomerkeeper.

 

[Roguey]

I really don't want to imagine what he views as "the old console RPGs with simplicity and depth" tbh.

16bit jrpgs. His references mark him as born in the 80s.

 

[Luckmann]

I really don't want to imagine what he views as "the old console RPGs with simplicity and depth" tbh.

16bit jrpgs. His references mark him as born in the 80s.

He could just as well be talking about late Playstation-era stuff. He's a journo. His idea of "old" could be last week for all we know, or he could just be making shit up. Assuming he played games as a kid is incredibly generous.

 

[Luckmann]

In 3,5e wizards, clerics and druids are s-tier classes. And clerics isn't stronger then wizards. Best cleric tricks in 3,5e are Divine metamagic, Cheater of Mytra and Dweomerkeeper.

If we're strictly talking 3.5e, Clerics are practically always considered stronger than Wizards, because everything a Wizard can do, a Cleric can theoretically do better. The fact that they are sorted at the same tier as according to the tier system is irrelevant.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Mishulin looks like he is stuck in the 90s.
That's probably why Kingmaker was so fun to play. The current year decline has not caught up with him yet.

After the preservation of Orthodox Christianity and the civilizing of Northern Asia, Russia finally has a worthy mission, to preserve CRPGs and civilize western gamers and RPG developers.

 

[Turuko]

Was this linked in here yet?



Interview with Mishulin, I'm surprised they gave interview to that small channel, just a few subscribers, or is that actually bigger site?

Mishulin looks like he is stuck in the 90s.
That's probably why Kingmaker was so fun to play. The current year decline has not caught up with him yet.

yeah the 1890 tho
he looks like a fucking cossack

absolute chad

 

[Mexi]

What D:OS2 did right was open-ended world and more freedom. If Owlcat could marry this with their own slavic-mongolian magic, it would be the next-gen CRPG.
Larain should've done that with RTWP.

What they did right was nothing. That series sucks ass, and I never understood the Dex's infatuation with that garbage.

 

[Cryomancer]

Sometimes I wonder what kind of games these people are growing up on. They are probably the same age as me, more or less, but I find it insane that they can be a game journalist and this incompetent in playing video games.

Here in my country, when you talk about rpg, people don't think that you are talking about BG2, they think that you are talking about the games with androgynous teenagers saving the world from sci-fi villains with oversized swords. Contrary to Eastern Europeans who grew up loving gothic, might & magic, baldur's gate, etc.

And this is only one of many things that i hate in my country. My country is a shithole since the fall of monarchy but i don't wanna to be much off topic.

Owlcat has a very experienced dev team with guys who worked on HoMM. PFKM1 was the unique decent PNP adaptation of the last decade who was contaminated with SCL level shit games

 

[Thonius]

You may not like it but that's how peak developer looks like.

 

[Desiderius]

Some of us grew up on games that were trying to kill you for your next quarter. Big difference from lulling you to sleep before you buy the competitor's game.

 

[Ipum]

In 3,5e wizards, clerics and druids are s-tier classes. And clerics isn't stronger then wizards. Best cleric tricks in 3,5e are Divine metamagic, Cheater of Mytra and Dweomerkeeper.

If we're strictly talking 3.5e, Clerics are practically always considered stronger than Wizards, because everything a Wizard can do, a Cleric can theoretically do better. The fact that they are sorted at the same tier as according to the tier system is irrelevant.

I dont know who told you so, but as a member of 3,5e character optimization community at WotC forums i can tell you that's not true. Rtfm you must. Go check Treantmonk's guide to wizard 3,5e.